Any chance Bryce Petty can become the next Aaron Rodgers?
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Forgot all about that one. Damn the memories of all the dumbass moves the Jets made passing up excellent players in the draft. Like all the damn receivers last year, passing up Alshon Jefferies and drafting Stephen Hill instead in 2011 I believe. Many more ofcourse but the three ultimate screw ups were Marino, Sapp and Rodgers.
Listenig to ESPN radio and they said that the Packers were looking to draft another QB the very year after they drafted Rodgers. They were considering it because they didn't like the way Rodgers was holding the ball and other parts of his development wasn't going as planned or hoped. If this is true maybe we truly do have a chance with Petty.
What is your point? Name the QB you want and why you think he will be the savior?
My point is that Petty is extremely raw and 3rd round QBs have a flameout rate of 90%+.
It's a bit of a pipe dream trying to project a guy as raw as Petty, so I'd still try to go out and draft another QB.
I don't know who the saviour is, no more than you know that Petty is. There's a lot of college ball left to play, we will see who performs, underwhelms and who actually enters the draft. Ask me in March who I like and I would be happy to let you know
IMHO, Aaron Rodgers wouldnt be where he is today had he started year one in place of Brett Favre. What he learned on the sidelines was critical to his maturation and grasp of the game. Even when he finally took over in 2008, Packer fans were skeptical of a kid trying to fill the huge void left behind by management trading Brett.
Fast forward to Bryce. Do i think he can be Rodgers? I'am sorry, as big of a fan i'am of him, i dont think so, they're two different players. Do i think he has the talent to become a franchise QB? Yes. He has every intangible that can lead me to believe he can become a great star in this league. The kid has moxy, leadership, character, big arm, accurate and has been very successful at every level being patient.
The one aspect i would like that hopefully Bryce shares with Aaron is how the franchise helps him mature. The game is too fast for him right now. He'd get eaten alive by defenses and the fans as we know it here (and i'am a victim of it as well) will term him a complete bust in an instant.
Groom the kid. Just like Green bay did. Have him learn under Fitz in what he has to offer. Just like the Oilers did with Steve McNair under CHris Chandler and Eli Manning under Kurt Warner.
Time is of the essence for a young gun to become as prosperous as Aaron Rodgers.
Fast forward to Bryce. Do i think he can be Rodgers? I'am sorry, as big of a fan i'am of him, i dont think so, they're two different players. Do i think he has the talent to become a franchise QB? Yes. He has every intangible that can lead me to believe he can become a great star in this league. The kid has moxy, leadership, character, big arm, accurate and has been very successful at every level being patient.
The one aspect i would like that hopefully Bryce shares with Aaron is how the franchise helps him mature. The game is too fast for him right now. He'd get eaten alive by defenses and the fans as we know it here (and i'am a victim of it as well) will term him a complete bust in an instant.
Groom the kid. Just like Green bay did. Have him learn under Fitz in what he has to offer. Just like the Oilers did with Steve McNair under CHris Chandler and Eli Manning under Kurt Warner.
Time is of the essence for a young gun to become as prosperous as Aaron Rodgers.
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flgreen
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Pretty much. Whether they pick a QB in the first next year also depends on what they think of Petty.
If you take a QB in the first, lets face it, your looking at him as your future. if they come to the conclusion that Petty is going to be blah, they'll probably make some kind of move to get a QB they can win with.
If they think Petty is their QB for the future, they need other players in the first also.
Can we give Petty a chance to develop and show what he can do before we draft another QB?
I tell you this much, I can't wait to see Petty on the field. I'm really hoping to see if he can do what I think he can and that is be a great one. Maybe not Aaron Rodgers but a great one yet in still.
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dabigyear
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Rogers had a ton of time to develop under Favre. Petty needs time, like Rogers he is a system type QB that needs to learn the ropes before starting.
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Mainejet
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How about Bryce Petty becomes the next Bryce Petty and we'll evaluate if he's good when that day comes?
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dabigyear
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Yes, keep drafting QB's. Brady was found because they already had 3 signed QB's and they had just signed Bledsoe to a big contract. You never know when the next nugget in your pan is going to be gold.
We traded the 26th pick in 05 for Jolley. Rodgers went 24 to the Packers -- he would not have been on the board for us had we stayed put. Still, it was a stupid trade as we could have had Heath Miller at 26 instead of Jolley, but Rodgers would only have been an option if we traded up -- which is what the raiders did to pick ahead of GB. The Raiders used our 26 and dealt it to Seattle to get to 23 and take Fabian Washington.
The team that should be killing themselves over Rodgers is the Niners who used #1 overall to take Alex Smith instead.
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ucrenegade
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this is why jets fans always feel disappointed they put unreal expectations on every player.
how about we just be happy if he is our qb for the next 10 years. From what I saw he it looks like he can be a better kenny O. Not sure about his long ball yet that wasn't shown alot. The college tapes won't show that because unless I am wrong I thought the college football and NFL football are not the same.
how about we just be happy if he is our qb for the next 10 years. From what I saw he it looks like he can be a better kenny O. Not sure about his long ball yet that wasn't shown alot. The college tapes won't show that because unless I am wrong I thought the college football and NFL football are not the same.
With our defense we can very competitive with an Andy Dalton type QB, and I believe BP can be that guy. He needs time though and the proper tutelage. He is in a decent situation if Fitz can secure the starting position for the remainder of the year.
Heard an interesting conversation on the Sirius NFL channel yesterday between Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller. They were talking about talented spread QBs who are not highly drafted but are able to remain on rosters with strong QB and coaching situations where they can sit and learn for 3-4 years. They said with rare exceptions you can't rush these guys, but if you can wait on them you may have a hidden gem. Teams are looking at these type of talents now to fill their QB needs, because not everyone has the opportunity to draft a Luck type of talent. If you secure one of these developmental backups because their team cannot afford the luxury of an expensive backup after their rookie contract runs out you are much better off. They used Mallett and Taylor as examples of guys who would have washed out of the league had they had to play right away, but stuck around and learned their trade the old fashioned way. I hope we have learned our lesson with how we rushed two highly drafted QBs into the mix, instead of allowing nature to take its course. I would love to see Petty be the guy eventually, but let's not rush things.
Heard an interesting conversation on the Sirius NFL channel yesterday between Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller. They were talking about talented spread QBs who are not highly drafted but are able to remain on rosters with strong QB and coaching situations where they can sit and learn for 3-4 years. They said with rare exceptions you can't rush these guys, but if you can wait on them you may have a hidden gem. Teams are looking at these type of talents now to fill their QB needs, because not everyone has the opportunity to draft a Luck type of talent. If you secure one of these developmental backups because their team cannot afford the luxury of an expensive backup after their rookie contract runs out you are much better off. They used Mallett and Taylor as examples of guys who would have washed out of the league had they had to play right away, but stuck around and learned their trade the old fashioned way. I hope we have learned our lesson with how we rushed two highly drafted QBs into the mix, instead of allowing nature to take its course. I would love to see Petty be the guy eventually, but let's not rush things.
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I think they need to go QB early until they find one. Even if they are fairly certain that Petty can be a NFL QB, they need to keep drafting them until they feel they have their guy.
All the rest is for naught if you don't have a QB. Fitz might get you to the playoffs but he is unlikely to take you to the SB.
If Goff or Hackenburg or Kessler are sitting there when you pick, I think you need to take them.
I think they need to go QB early until they find one. Even if they are fairly certain that Petty can be a NFL QB, they need to keep drafting them until they feel they have their guy.
All the rest is for naught if you don't have a QB. Fitz might get you to the playoffs but he is unlikely to take you to the SB.
If Goff or Hackenburg or Kessler are sitting there when you pick, I think you need to take them.
Jared Goff looks like a top 3 pick. He's looking like the real deal. No way the Jets have a chance at him. The Jets will win too many games.
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Mainejet
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Is there a chance he can be Aaron Rodgers? Of course there's a chance. Anything is possible. But given the track record of QB's taken in the NFL and their success rates, I'd say it's much more likely we have the next Ryan Leaf.
Oooh that hurt but could very well be true. Man I hope your wrong. We'll we all do and I'm sure you feel the same.
Yup, I agree. Jared Goff will be the next QB of the Chicago Bears.