Cap Space Cleared... Is there more to come?

mykcuz

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Plus the money saved from trading Sheldon.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
 

lounap23

Legend
Jet Fanatics
I think we will get More cap space with trading Richardson and cutting either Marshall or Decker. I also would think we should cut Harris... those 3 moves will give us an additional 20 to 22 Million in cap space...... Plus I think there is a possibility of Gilchrist getting cut and thats another 4 Mill. Also there could be a Wild card shot of trading Matt Forte (probaly for a 6th or 7th Rd pick) and that would give us another 2-3 million in space..
 
Last edited:

Old#15

Old Wise Tale
Jet Fanatics
I hope all of this discussion of cap space doesn't get anyone's hopes up for a playoff run. I'd hate it if after generating approximately $50 M in cap space, MM went out and blew it all on a bunch of free agents who will be cut after two years. Save the money for home grown guys who deserve the pay day. We have way too much work to do in developing and keeping our own players before we can worry about playoffs or whatever reason for spending foolishly.
 

soj

retired Veteran
Jet Fanatics
The problem is that Macc and Bowles are trying to keep their jobs in a rebuilding year. Anyone who looks objectively at this team knows that 2017 is going to be an evaluation year. We're going to find out whether or not a lot of young players are worthy of playing on this team. That extends beyond the QB position. And Maccagnan and Bowles are widely considered "under the gun" to show improvement from last season. I'm not sure it's realistic to expect that to happen if we're truly in rebuilding mode.

IMO, the best thing to do is to release all the vets making big money. That includes Revis, Harris, Marshall, Gilchrist, and maybe even Decker. Yes, we'll struggle for a few years with an extremely young, developing team. But that is how the great teams are built: from the ground up. It's a risk, but the team has to change its strategy for once. No more "competitive rebuilds". We tried that a few times. It didn't work.

Why do you say under the gun... Woody said that they didn't have to make the PO just be competitive and getting better.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Why do you say under the gun... Woody said that they didn't have to make the PO just be competitive and getting better.

After last year's disaster, Woody is going to want to see progress. Understandably so. But if the team continues to cut some of the best players on the team, Bowles is going to be placed in a very tough position: be better with less talent on your roster. If we continue to trim the fat off this team, and go with a lot of young and unproven players, I just don't see how it can be accomplished.

Woody has got to know that this team will more than likely finish below .500. Maybe even well below it. My guess is that as long as the Jets aren't getting destroyed in games next year, that Bowles and Macc will be safe for 2019. But the fans and media will be all over them right around a 1-5 start to the season.
 

butterscotch

Jets/Cards
Jets Global
The problem is that Macc and Bowles are trying to keep their jobs in a rebuilding year. Anyone who looks objectively at this team knows that 2017 is going to be an evaluation year. We're going to find out whether or not a lot of young players are worthy of playing on this team. That extends beyond the QB position. And Maccagnan and Bowles are widely considered "under the gun" to show improvement from last season. I'm not sure it's realistic to expect that to happen if we're truly in rebuilding mode.

IMO, the best thing to do is to release all the vets making big money. That includes Revis, Harris, Marshall, Gilchrist, and maybe even Decker. Yes, we'll struggle for a few years with an extremely young, developing team. But that is how the great teams are built: from the ground up. It's a risk, but the team has to change its strategy for once. No more "competitive rebuilds". We tried that a few times. It didn't work.

This is great it is like a fire sale LOL Look who knows if Woody has given these guys TB & Big mac an extra year or two. They grow as the teams grows. The good times Roll
 

jetgreen13

founding JFU member..
Jet Fanatics
Why do you say under the gun... Woody said that they didn't have to make the PO just be competitive and getting better.
it's not a given the jets are going to be competitive & get better in '17..

& if they aren't, bowles won't get an extension & johnson won't let him coach the team in the final year of his contract as a lame duck..

in that scenario, maccagnan will probably outlast bowles & get a chance to legitimately pick his own head coach.. especially if he handles this free agency & the draft well..

my thoughts anyway..
 

jetgreen13

founding JFU member..
Jet Fanatics
After last year's disaster, Woody is going to want to see progress. Understandably so. But if the team continues to cut some of the best players on the team, Bowles is going to be placed in a very tough position: be better with less talent on your roster. If we continue to trim the fat off this team, and go with a lot of young and unproven players, I just don't see how it can be accomplished.

Woody has got to know that this team will more than likely finish below .500. Maybe even well below it. My guess is that as long as the Jets aren't getting destroyed in games next year, that Bowles and Macc will be safe for 2019. But the fans and media will be all over them right around a 1-5 start to the season.
typo??
 

BlindsideD'Brick

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics

I'm not high on Todd Bowles, either. I'm just trying to get inside Woody Johnson's head. Does Woody realize this team is going to take a few steps backwards next year? Or is he expecting Macc/Bowles to improve with a questionable roster in 2018? Regardless of how you feel about Bowles, it's a shitty deal. If Woody is willing to go through the growing pains of a rebuild, he just might extend the rope on Bowles and Macc.
 

jetgreen13

founding JFU member..
Jet Fanatics
I'm not high on Todd Bowles, either. I'm just trying to get inside Woody Johnson's head. Does Woody realize this team is going to take a few steps backwards next year? Or is he expecting Macc/Bowles to improve with a questionable roster in 2018? Regardless of how you feel about Bowles, it's a shitty deal. If Woody is willing to go through the growing pains of a rebuild, he just might extend the rope on Bowles and Macc.
is a full blown rebuild shitty, especially after a shitty season?? no argument from me.. no sympathy from me either..

bowles coached teams far too often play without focus, passion & a lack urgency.. & let's be honest, why wouldn't that be the case?? a team takes on the personality of the head coach..

the irony is, he doesn't seem to see it that way at all.. he's content to stand on the sidelines, mostly by himself, with his arms crossed with that dopey blank look on his face.. & full disclosure, his incredulous attitude & one to three word answers in his pressers drives me nuts.. the guy acts like belichick without any of the success..

bowles is a lousy head coach.. & i say to all of his cheerleaders in NFL circles, if you love the guy so much, hire him yourselves..
 

TebowCan'tThrow

Supersize!
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
I hope all of this discussion of cap space doesn't get anyone's hopes up for a playoff run. I'd hate it if after generating approximately $50 M in cap space, MM went out and blew it all on a bunch of free agents who will be cut after two years. Save the money for home grown guys who deserve the pay day. We have way too much work to do in developing and keeping our own players before we can worry about playoffs or whatever reason for spending foolishly.

Hard to pay homegrown players when the Jets suck at drafting.
 

gmf1369

Jack of All Trades
Big Fish
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
OK. First post in this thread says Jets had $29M cap space before cutting Revis. This article

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20...67_million_what_it_me.html#incart_river_index

says Jets have $27M cap space after cutting Revis. I'm confused. How much cap space do the Jets have now?

there is dead loss that wasn't added into the first post.

NFL announced the salary cap at $167 million. Each team has its own adjusted cap number, based on the carryover from the previous year, and the Jets' cap number is $167.371 million, according to the NFLPA.

Counting Revis' release, which doesn't become official until March 9, the Jets have $141.1 million committed to the cap (top 51 players), according to overthecap.com. That means they have $26.3 million in cap room, per OTC. That might sound like a lot, but it still puts them in the bottom third of the league. In other words, they can aggressive in free agency, but they have to be cautious.
<br> [h=1]Jets Create Cap Room[/h]
A rundown of the New York Jets' cost-cutting moves -- the players they released and the cap implications. (*-The Jets owe Darrelle Revis a $6 million guarantee, but that number will be reduced by the amount he earns in 2017 from his next team.)
<br>
Ryan Clady$10 million$500,000
Darrelle Revis$9.3 million$6 million*
Nick Mangold$9.1 million$0
Breno Giacomini$4.5 million$625,000
Nick Folk$3 million$593,000
Erin Henderson$2.58 million$170,000
Totals$38.5 million$7.9 million

PLAYER CAP MONEY SAVED DEAD CHARGE
 

Jet Fan RI

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
there is dead loss that wasn't added into the first post.

NFL announced the salary cap at $167 million. Each team has its own adjusted cap number, based on the carryover from the previous year, and the Jets' cap number is $167.371 million, according to the NFLPA.

Counting Revis' release, which doesn't become official until March 9, the Jets have $141.1 million committed to the cap (top 51 players), according to overthecap.com. That means they have $26.3 million in cap room, per OTC. That might sound like a lot, but it still puts them in the bottom third of the league. In other words, they can aggressive in free agency, but they have to be cautious.
<br>

Jets Create Cap Room


A rundown of the New York Jets' cost-cutting moves -- the players they released and the cap implications. (*-The Jets owe Darrelle Revis a $6 million guarantee, but that number will be reduced by the amount he earns in 2017 from his next team.)
<br>
Ryan Clady$10 million$500,000
Darrelle Revis$9.3 million$6 million*
Nick Mangold$9.1 million$0
Breno Giacomini$4.5 million$625,000
Nick Folk$3 million$593,000
Erin Henderson$2.58 million$170,000
Totals$38.5 million$7.9 million

Thanks for the additional explanation!
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
The problem is that there will be a disconnect between the fans and the front office about coach performance. The fans will look at record alone as a reason for firing Bowles, and understandably so. But I sense the front office will take a much closer look at the development of young players, as opposed to record, as they should.

It won't make the Bowles haters happy, by any stretch, but player development will be an important metric.
 

SackExchange

Jet Fanatic
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Hard to pay homegrown players when the Jets suck at drafting.

Not sure such a case can be made about the current administration yet. The jury is still out, and it's too early to tell.

And you can't paint this administration with the failings of past regimes.
 

lounap23

Legend
Jet Fanatics
We should clear space by cutting Gilchrist and Harris and trading Richardson....Rumors are Harris may not get cut... Not sure I understand that.. He is great in running situations but in pass coverage he is awful..and with his age, I say it's time to move on
 

gmf1369

Jack of All Trades
Big Fish
The Mod Squad
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
We should clear space by cutting Gilchrist and Harris and trading Richardson....Rumors are Harris may not get cut... Not sure I understand that.. He is great in running situations but in pass coverage he is awful..and with his age, I say it's time to move on

have to believe it is the issue that he is an excellent run defender and our linebackers right now are not capable to be that consistent especially inside. Lee is more of a coverage option right now and has long way to go. we have no depth in that position, so until they either draft or sign somebody will they make that decision to part ways with him. Wouldn't be against him sticking around one more season to help the growth and development in this area.
 

Old#15

Old Wise Tale
Jet Fanatics
What happens if we draft a guy like Ruben Foster? Do we then cut Harris, or does his salary become guaranteed after a certain point? Or do we keep Harris around as a mentor, albeit an expensive one?
 
Top