Cincinnati Bengals at New York Jets (CBS) 1:00pm Week 1

[Elias]

I think the game will be tough but our crowd will be pumped and will the team for victory. Too much emotion in the building for the team to come out flat.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I think the game will be tough but our crowd will be pumped and will the team for victory. Too much emotion in the building for the team to come out flat.

AJ Green is the key. If we can keep him out of the EZ more than once, we win the game. If he scores twice, its a toss up, and if he scores three times, they win the game. Thats why I'm doubling that muthafletcher all over the field if its me, all day. If Tyler Boyd or Brandon LaFell can beat us, congratulations to them, but we better make those guys beat us.

 

[McJet]

Bengals 35 Jets 14

Bengals are a sound football team in every single phase of the game. They are one of the top scoring offenses that can adapt their game plan to whatever is working. If they need a running attack, they can do it. If they need an aerial attack, they can do it.
The Bengals defense is actually a BETTER defense than ours. The Jets defense was 9th in points against, the Bengals were something like 3rd or 4th playing against much better competition than us. We had a cupcake schedule last season, they played many legitimate contenders and still managed to go 12-4 for the season.

Most of all what concerns me is the Jets OL. They did NOTHING for the right side and you can be sure the Bengals will stack pass rushers along the right side. They WILL get to Ryan Fitzpatrick early and often. And when that happens, Fitz will throw interceptions.

I really do not see the Jets having much of a chance against the Bengals. As I said, anything the Jets do well, the Bengals do better. Anything the Jets have as weaknesses the Bengals can capitalize on............

The Bengals last year beat the Browns twice, Ravens twice, 49ers, Rams, Raiders, Chargers, Bills, Chiefs Steelers and Seahawks some good teams but hardly a murderers row.
If the Jets can shut down the run game, double A.J. Green all day, with Eifert out the Jets have a good shot.
I think teams are going to have a lot of trouble with Marshall, Decker, Enunwa with Forte or Powell out of the backfield.
The is a game the Jets, at home, need to win.

 

[jetgreen13]

AJ Green is the key. If we can keep him out of the EZ more than once, we win the game. If he scores twice, its a toss up, and if he scores three times, they win the game. Thats why I'm doubling that muthafletcher all over the field if its me, all day. If Tyler Boyd or Brandon LaFell can beat us, congratulations to them, but we better make those guys beat us.

completely agree..

there's no crime in giving revis some help against all world WR's at this point in his career..

we'll see soon enough..

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

completely agree..

there's no crime in giving revis some help against all world WR's at this point in his career..

we'll see soon enough..

Yep, the game plan for this one is not hard to figure out. No need to overthink it. They have one of the most lethal offensive players in the sport, a WR who can literally wreck the game, and you can't let him wreck the game. Revis and Gilchrist have to be high-lowing that guy all day, from the moment they leave the tunnel. If their second and third options can beat us, good for them, but those are the guys who should be forced to beat us.

As for the Bengals running game, thats pretty damn good too, but I believe our front-seven can handle that part of it.

 

[Elias]

completely agree..

there's no crime in giving revis some help against all world WR's at this point in his career..

we'll see soon enough..

my biggest gripe against Bowles last year was that he wouldn't give any help to Revis. Hopefully that changes this year.

 

[Mainejet]

The Bengals last year beat the Browns twice, Ravens twice, 49ers, Rams, Raiders, Chargers, Bills, Chiefs Steelers and Seahawks some good teams but hardly a murderers row.
If the Jets can shut down the run game, double A.J. Green all day, with Eifert out the Jets have a good shot.
I think teams are going to have a lot of trouble with Marshall, Decker, Enunwa with Forte or Powell out of the backfield.
The is a game the Jets, at home, need to win.

I didn't say the Jets don't have a chance. Of course they do. Anything can happen on any given Sunday.

But looking at this factually, makes it damn near impossible. The Bengals give up less points per game against a harder schedule than the Jets last season. They score more points than us against a harder schedule. Their ST is MILES better than ours. They turn the ball over less and create more turnovers on defense. They can win football games via the run game or the passing game. They have better coaching and better overall talent. The Jets chance at winning this game is VERY slim at best.

 

[jetgreen13]

my biggest gripe against Bowles last year was that he wouldn't give any help to Revis. Hopefully that changes this year.

LOLz it why i posted, "we'll see soon enough.."

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I didn't say the Jets don't have a chance. Of course they do. Anything can happen on any given Sunday.

But looking at this factually, makes it damn near impossible. The Bengals give up less points per game against a harder schedule than the Jets last season. They score more points than us against a harder schedule. Their ST is MILES better than ours. They turn the ball over less and create more turnovers on defense. They can win football games via the run game or the passing game. They have better coaching and better overall talent. The Jets chance at winning this game is VERY slim at best.

I think you are way overstating it. There's a reason why the oddsmakers have made this less than a FG game. Last I looked the Bengals were 2.5 Points favorites. The way you just made it sound, they should be favored by 17 :global (37):

 

[Mainejet]

I think you are way overstating it. There's a reason why the oddsmakers have made this less than a FG game. Last I looked the Bengals were 2.5 Points favorites. The way you just made it sound, they should be favored by 17 :global (37):

Well, this game is taking place in NY. Home field advantage is huge. So it's no wonder why the Bengals are only 2.5 point favorites. With that said, however, the Bengals on paper are a much better team and the Jets have some very definite deficiencies going into this game the way I see it. Their OL is ripe for exploitation. I really don't believe their defense got better, I believe it to be worse than last season and I think this season will show that..........

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

Well, this game is taking place in NY. Home field advantage is huge. So it's no wonder why the Bengals are only 2.5 point favorites. With that said, however, the Bengals on paper are a much better team and the Jets have some very definite deficiencies going into this game the way I see it. Their OL is ripe for exploitation. I really don't believe their defense got better, I believe it to be worse than last season and I think this season will show that..........

Couldn't disagree with you more Maine.

I feel this Jets team will surprise many-even their own fans. We were very vanilla this pre-season. I'am sure Bowles has some new tactics up his sleeve for the Bengals game.

All in all, i feel with the team we have and the constant continuity of players from last year that were kept, we have tremendous chemistry heading into week one.

Should be a fun one this season.

 

[Metjetgal]

Our D should be able to keep us in the game. It will be interesting to see how our oline holds up, and what Fitzpatrick looks like. I think we need to muster at least 23 points to win I think.

 

[SackExchange]

Bengals 35 Jets 14

Bengals are a sound football team in every single phase of the game. They are one of the top scoring offenses that can adapt their game plan to whatever is working. If they need a running attack, they can do it. If they need an aerial attack, they can do it.

The Bengals defense is actually a BETTER defense than ours. The Jets defense was 9th in points against, the Bengals were something like 3rd or 4th playing against much better competition than us. We had a cupcake schedule last season, they played many legitimate contenders and still managed to go 12-4 for the season.

Most of all what concerns me is the Jets OL. They did NOTHING for the right side and you can be sure the Bengals will stack pass rushers along the right side. They WILL get to Ryan Fitzpatrick early and often. And when that happens, Fitz will throw interceptions.

I really do not see the Jets having much of a chance against the Bengals. As I said, anything the Jets do well, the Bengals do better. Anything the Jets have as weaknesses the Bengals can capitalize on............

This is not a must-win, and you are right that the Bengals are a very good team. But it seems your problem is mostly with the Jets' OL, yet you have Cinci scoring 35 points on this defense. Did you see anything about this defense that would suggest they will give up 35 points, even if there are turnovers?

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

This is not a must-win, and you are right that the Bengals are a very good team. But it seems your problem is mostly with the Jets' OL, yet you have Cinci scoring 35 points on this defense. Did you see anything about this defense that would suggest they will give up 35 points, even if there are turnovers?

I think the Jets will have a TOP 5 defense again this year, perhaps better than last year with more speed at linebacker and minus Cromartie who was a liability in my view. That said, the Bengals have a strong O-line, a terrific RB tandem in Hill & Bernard, and of course one of the scariest players in the world in AJ Green. I would feel a lot better about this game if we were whole on defense, meaning if that blockhead Sheldon Richardson wasn't starting the season on suspension again, but even without him we should have enough to hold the Bengals to about 24. I think we're gonna have to score 27+ to win this game, and thats a number we can reach. I think the odds are exactly right, this is a virtual Pick'em Game as I see it.

 

[Mainejet]

This is not a must-win, and you are right that the Bengals are a very good team. But it seems your problem is mostly with the Jets' OL, yet you have Cinci scoring 35 points on this defense. Did you see anything about this defense that would suggest they will give up 35 points, even if there are turnovers?

YES. They gave up 34 points in the Raider games last season against a very young offense in the Raiders. The Raiders, went around and over them all game long. They had one big play after another against this defense.

Now, consider they are playing a much more established veteran offense in the Bengals. The Raiders big play WR wasn't really even a factor in their victory against the Jets. Michael Crabtree was the guy that really did the Jets in. Amari Cooper was mostly a decoy all game. I can see rather easily where AJ Green is nothing more than a decoy and the real damage is done from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th options for the Bengals. Their QB is good enough to go through progressions and seek out easy matchups.

This coupled with the Jets cornerback position being rather unsettled and certainly unproven going into the season.

And turnovers? Well, I don't care how good you perceive our defense to be, if they are defending inside their own red zone, they will give up some touchdowns, and it's just a matter of how many.

 

[SackExchange]

YES. They gave up 34 points in the Raider games last season against a very young offense in the Raiders. The Raiders, went around and over them all game long. They had one big play after another against this defense.

Now, consider they are playing a much more established veteran offense in the Bengals. The Raiders big play WR wasn't really even a factor in their victory against the Jets. Michael Crabtree was the guy that really did the Jets in. Amari Cooper was mostly a decoy all game. I can see rather easily where AJ Green is nothing more than a decoy and the real damage is done from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th options for the Bengals. Their QB is good enough to go through progressions and seek out easy matchups.

This coupled with the Jets cornerback position being rather unsettled and certainly unproven going into the season.

And turnovers? Well, I don't care how good you perceive our defense to be, if they are defending inside their own red zone, they will give up some touchdowns, and it's just a matter of how many.

I think the methodology is citing one game from last year is a bit flawed. You can pretty much do that for anything.

The Jets gave up 34 points to the Raiders last year, and they only scored 17 in 3 games. Therefore, they will lose every game 34-17.

 

[Mainejet]

I think the methodology is citing one game from last year is a bit flawed. You can pretty much do that for anything.

The Jets gave up 34 points to the Raiders last year, and they only scored 17 in 3 games. Therefore, they will lose every game 34-17.

Well, think whatever you want. This is a message board. Maybe the final score isn't exactly accurate, who knows? But there's no doubt the Bengals are a much better team than the Jets and everyone on this board seems to be failing to mention that point........

 

[SackExchange]

Well, think whatever you want. This is a message board. Maybe the final score isn't exactly accurate, who knows? But there's no doubt the Bengals are a much better team than the Jets and everyone on this board seems to be failing to mention that point........

I have acknowledged the Bengals are better. I might stop at "much" better, but the Bengals are better all around.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I have acknowledged the Bengals are better. I might stop at "much" better, but the Bengals are better all around.

Agreed, "much better" is an overstatement in my view.

Let me tell you guys how oddsmakers work.

Home teams ordinarily get 3 to 4 Points for being home, so we'll call it 3.5

So the fact that Cinci has been installed as 2.5 Points favorites means the oddsmakers see them as about 6 Points better than the Jets on a neutral field. Thats no small number in the pros, but its not a big number either. It basically acknowledges what you said, the Bengals are better than the Jets, but not much better.

AT HOME this is a winnable game for the Jets.

 

[Mainejet]

Agreed, "much better" is an overstatement in my view.

Let me tell you guys how oddsmakers work.

Home teams ordinarily get 3 to 4 Points for being home, so we'll call it 3.5

So the fact that Cinci has been installed as 2.5 Points favorites means the oddsmakers see them as about 6 Points better than the Jets on a neutral field. Thats no small number in the pros, but its not a big number either. It basically acknowledges what you said, the Bengals are better than the Jets, but not much better.

AT HOME this is a winnable game for the Jets.

A winnable game? YES. Will they win it? NO.