Coach Bowles League Meeting Press Conference

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I think the Bowles criticism has been excessive, but this latest quote is disturbing. This is NOT what a leader says.

"Sometimes you're late for work. It's life. It's not life threatening. Sometimes the alarm clock doesn't go off".
Todd Bowles

Accountability is important though, Todd. Most people who regularly show up late for work get their ass chewed or even get fired. They don't get this response from Bowles. Wrong message, bad look.
 
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BlindsideD'Brick said:
I think the Bowles criticism has been excessive, but this latest quote is disturbing. This is NOT what a leader says.

"Sometimes you're late for work. It's life. It's not life threatening. Sometimes the alarm clock doesn't go off".
Todd Bowles

Accountability is important though, Todd. Most people who regularly show up late for work get their ass chewed or even get fired. They don't get this response from Bowles. Wrong message, bad look.
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bowles is in over his head & oblivious..

allowing this dope to fire most of his staff while keeping rogers was game, set, match for me..

zero shock value with his take on players showing up if & when they feel like it..
 
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jetgreen13 said:
bowles is in over his head & oblivious..

allowing this dope to fire most of his staff while keeping rogers was game, set, match for me..

zero shock value with his take on players showing up if & when they feel like it..
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100% agreed......And yes, not to expound on a poor subject, but keeping Rogers? When any Jets fan that is aware of what is going on, knows that Rogers was the LARGEST part of the problem last season. As you say, that alone is a fireable offense..........
 
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BlindsideD'Brick said:
I think the Bowles criticism has been excessive, but this latest quote is disturbing. This is NOT what a leader says.

"Sometimes you're late for work. It's life. It's not life threatening. Sometimes the alarm clock doesn't go off".
Todd Bowles

Accountability is important though, Todd. Most people who regularly show up late for work get their ass chewed or even get fired. They don't get this response from Bowles. Wrong message, bad look.
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I do agree with you to a point Babe Ruth, Joe Namath etc had special rules maybe we lowered the bar LOL
 
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Its a PRIVILEGE to be able to play a sport as a job! The Players should be happy & Thankful to show up early to every meeting,practice to learn & play their best. Bowles is a terrible Boss/Coach, where young men dont respect him in any way being late/not showing up for meetings & practices & then play like they are bored & dont care on the field. Maybe if these guys had to work at Commercial fishing-Logging-Shipyard-Demolition & Construction risking their lives for a pay check to make ends meet, the Players would be more appreciated to play Pro Sports & be paid crazy money to do so. Most important to me win or lose is seeing every Jet playing his hardest every single play. Long as I can see this from my Jets Players I'm fine in losing because I know they gave it all & left it on the field. Thats Jets Pride that Kleco-Gastineau-Lions-Salaam played with every play.
 
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I wonder if TB is related to Captain Smith of the Titanic fame? My god we have to watch this clown again in 2017, sigh.
 
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BlindsideD'Brick said:
I think the Bowles criticism has been excessive, but this latest quote is disturbing. This is NOT what a leader says.

"Sometimes you're late for work. It's life. It's not life threatening. Sometimes the alarm clock doesn't go off".
Todd Bowles

Accountability is important though, Todd. Most people who regularly show up late for work get their ass chewed or even get fired. They don't get this response from Bowles. Wrong message, bad look.
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I absolutely agree. It seems like no matter what he did, some would simply hate him regardless.

That said, these comments are very troubling. You don't have to be as hardline as Belichick, but you need to have some accountability. These comments condone this behavior.
 
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Why would he say Hackenberg comes back with a new attitude, what was wrong with his attitude?
 
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I absolutely agree. It seems like no matter what he did, some would simply hate him regardless.

That said, these comments are very troubling. You don't have to be as hardline as Belichick, but you need to have some accountability. These comments condone this behavior.
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what i don't understand is, the same people that say fans are too hard on bowles rarely, if ever defend the guy with what they believe he does well as a head coach..

for instance, i can ramble off a laundry list of what i believe he's absolutely horrible at as a head coach..

where is the laundry list of what you guys believe he does well?? because without that, what the hell are we debating??
 
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McJet said:
Why would he say Hackenberg comes back with a new attitude, what was wrong with his attitude?
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he tried to clean it up after getting called on it later in the interview..

he double talks too much for me to try to figure out if he meant it or misspoke..
 
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what i don't understand is, the same people that say fans are too hard on bowles rarely, if ever defend the guy with what they believe he does well as a head coach..

for instance, i can ramble off a laundry list of what i believe he's absolutely horrible at as a head coach..

where is the laundry list of what you guys believe he does well?? because without that, what the hell are we debating??
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I don't think anyone's saying Bowles did a good job overall last season. His mistakes have been posted here in detail. I won't rehash them for the sake of avoiding redundancy. He's a brand new coach, and I believe he should get some time to grow into the position. On a side note, I've personally seen employees start out rough and eventually become solid employees. Not everyone shines from the get-go.

I'm of the opinion that you don't kick a guy to the curb after one bad year. The Jets went 10-6 in 2015, and few people (if any) were calling for his head then. Hiring and firing new GM's and HC's on 2-3 year cycles is what teams with no patience do. Now there may be exceptional cases where a guy has to go after a year or two, like Rich Kotite, who was clearly an incompetent HC. But if this team wants to build a successful run, it has to get a better idea about Bowles and Macc before they pull the ripcord on them.
 
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BlindsideD'Brick said:
I don't think anyone's saying Bowles did a good job overall last season. His mistakes have been posted here in detail. I won't rehash them for the sake of avoiding redundancy. He's a brand new coach, and I believe he should get some time to grow into the position. On a side note, I've personally seen employees start out rough and eventually become solid employees. Not everyone shines from the get-go.

I'm of the opinion that you don't kick a guy to the curb after one bad year. The Jets went 10-6 in 2015, and few people (if any) were calling for his head then. Hiring and firing new GM's and HC's on 2-3 year cycles is what teams with no patience do. Now there may be exceptional cases where a guy has to go after a year or two, like Rich Kotite, who was clearly an incompetent HC. But if this team wants to build a successful run, it has to get a better idea about Bowles and Macc before they pull the ripcord on them.
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Understand your position BUT he made the same damn mistakes in 2015 yet the record made a lot of us look passed his issues and hope he would get better year two. Fast forward and guess what, he regressed as did his team.

IMHO he has this year to pull it together with a new coaching staff and a lot of young players. If the team is not competitive because they just have poor talent then I can live with that but if the team is unprepared, uninspired like last year, then he has to go because another year will not make a difference.
 
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BlindsideD'Brick said:
I don't think anyone's saying Bowles did a good job overall last season. His mistakes have been posted here in detail. I won't rehash them for the sake of avoiding redundancy. He's a brand new coach, and I believe he should get some time to grow into the position. On a side note, I've personally seen employees start out rough and eventually become solid employees. Not everyone shines from the get-go.

I'm of the opinion that you don't kick a guy to the curb after one bad year. The Jets went 10-6 in 2015, and few people (if any) were calling for his head then. Hiring and firing new GM's and HC's on 2-3 year cycles is what teams with no patience do. Now there may be exceptional cases where a guy has to go after a year or two, like Rich Kotite, who was clearly an incompetent HC. But if this team wants to build a successful run, it has to get a better idea about Bowles and Macc before they pull the ripcord on them.
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actually, i believe there were plenty of red flags in year one as well.. yes, 10-6 is nice on paper & i absolutely enjoyed the hell out of the '15 season.. but we ended up having an extremely favorable schedule/mild weather.. i can make a strong case without the chronically flat first halves of games, we could have challenged NE for the division & a bye week.. that matched with career years from, fitzpatrick, decker, ivory & marshall was a hell of a deodorant for bowles' shortcomings in his rookie season.. & yes it was his "rookie season.." but losing to buffalo on national TV with bowles sticking to his "no game is more important than any other" mantra was/is still maddening to me!! what a crock of shit to sell your team on!! all the way down to it's literally mathematically incorrect..

then when he had the chance to get us in the playoffs week '17 in buffalo, what happened?? yet another flat as a pancake performance in the first half..

so no.. this is not just about year two..

as far as firing head coaches too soon, i stand by my post to sack in another thread.. i think it applies to our general managers as well..

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since 1990:

bruce coslet 1990-1993 bad head coach, fired..

pete carroll 1994 fired an eventual SB winner..

rich kotite 1995-1996 speaks for itself..

bill parcells 1997-1999 resigned..

bill belichick* 1999 speaks for itself..

al groh 2000 quit..

herm edwards 2001-2005 JAG, essentially traded to KC for a 4th rounder..

eric mangini 2006-2008 JAG, fired..

rex ryan 2009-20014 amazing start, horrible end.. fired..

todd bowles 2015- awful head coach..

never understood why the perception is the jets are constantly firing head coaches..
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jetgreen13 said:
what i don't understand is, the same people that say fans are too hard on bowles rarely, if ever defend the guy with what they believe he does well as a head coach..

for instance, i can ramble off a laundry list of what i believe he's absolutely horrible at as a head coach..

where is the laundry list of what you guys believe he does well?? because without that, what the hell are we debating??
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That is a fair point, though I do think he does some things well. He's good at keeping an even keel. He's been good at developing the young players on defense. I think regardless of what anyone says about the schedule, he got more out of the 2015 team than most expected. I would give him credit for those.

That said, there are certainly negatives. I haven't seen the team come out hot nearly as often as they came out flat. He hasn't established the discipline and accountability that was so lacking under Rex. Makes some odd position choices, such as Richardson at OLB. Usually doesn't hold his own on halftime adjustments.

He was hired as the best assistant coach in the NFL. While he may not have shown himself to be a good NFL HC at this point, let's not act like he was just a bum who Woody owed a favor to.
 
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That is a fair point, though I do think he does some things well. He's good at keeping an even keel. He's been good at developing the young players on defense. I think regardless of what anyone says about the schedule, he got more out of the 2015 team than most expected. I would give him credit for those.

That said, there are certainly negatives. I haven't seen the team come out hot nearly as often as they came out flat. He hasn't established the discipline and accountability that was so lacking under Rex. Makes some odd position choices, such as Richardson at OLB. Usually doesn't hold his own on halftime adjustments.

He was hired as the best assistant coach in the NFL. While he may not have shown himself to be a good NFL HC at this point, let's not act like he was just a bum who Woody owed a favor to.
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i could rattle off some sarcastic remarks about bowles' keeping an even keel but we are having a good natured debate.. :)

as far as developing young defensive players.. both maudlin & pryor regressed.. lee wasn't used as a pass rusher.. hell, i don't follow college football & even i knew that was something people that were high on him thought he could immediately be a factor in.. do you think bowles got more out of jenkins than any of the other head coaches last season?? you didn't think burris could've be used sooner??

& we've already debated the hell out of the 10-6 season, so i'll leave that alone..
 
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Why would he say Hackenberg comes back with a new attitude, what was wrong with his attitude?
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It SUCKS is what was wrong. You haven't read any of the articles? He's worse than Mainejet with all of his negativity, bitching, pissing, moaning, complaining, and getting openly frustrated for everyone to see including the press.

There's NO way Hack is ready to start right now. NO way. If the opponent got one look at his shitty ass attitude, it would all be over right then and there. They would immediately be in his head......
 
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