Dee Milliner
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Skrine, Gilchrist, Allen, Pryor, and Williams will all be on special teams.
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Achilles is one of the most devastating injuries a CB can have. In a norm it takes two full seasons for a player to come back from it, and seldom are they 100% of their self.
Doesn't mean he won't come back, but it will have some effect on him. Everyone is reporting that he won't have any offseason, except rehabbing the Achilles. If I had to guess I would think he's not going to be getting any meaningful snaps until week 8.
I would agree that putting him on IR, might be an option to clear up roster spots. 2 problems. One a player has to go through waivers to go to IR. He was the 9th overall selection in the draft. It's possible someone will take a flyer on him. Milliner has unbelievable physical talent, but so far we haven't seen any consistent play out of him. At times he looked OK, but mostly he looked lost out there. At the least he needs to practice with the team. A player can't do that on IR. Remember Wilson had similar physical talent. Just never could play the game
Think blaming Rex for his injury is a bit of a reach. All these guys play with injuries. Milliner on one of the players that has Blue Cross and Blue shield on speed dial
Doesn't mean he won't come back, but it will have some effect on him. Everyone is reporting that he won't have any offseason, except rehabbing the Achilles. If I had to guess I would think he's not going to be getting any meaningful snaps until week 8.
I would agree that putting him on IR, might be an option to clear up roster spots. 2 problems. One a player has to go through waivers to go to IR. He was the 9th overall selection in the draft. It's possible someone will take a flyer on him. Milliner has unbelievable physical talent, but so far we haven't seen any consistent play out of him. At times he looked OK, but mostly he looked lost out there. At the least he needs to practice with the team. A player can't do that on IR. Remember Wilson had similar physical talent. Just never could play the game
Think blaming Rex for his injury is a bit of a reach. All these guys play with injuries. Milliner on one of the players that has Blue Cross and Blue shield on speed dial
Ummm...a player has to clear waivers to go on IR? Might want to check that...pretty sure Peyton didn't have to clear waivers while on the Colts to go on IR...same for Brady when he had the knee injury...or we should have put in a claim. 
Ummm...a player has to clear waivers to go on IR? Might want to check that...pretty sure Peyton didn't have to clear waivers while on the Colts to go on IR...same for Brady when he had the knee injury...or we should have put in a claim.
Kevin, Good call. When I read that, I thought he was wrong. A player does not have to clear wavers to be put on I.R..
Go Jets...Cyborg
Rex Ryan put Milliner out there against the Packers to cover Jordy Nelson when he barely went through a walk through during the practice week. He had just missed most of camp/preseason. He couldn't play the following week. Then, Ryan rushes him back again, and suffers a devastating injury. I get it, Idzik didn't get Ryan the cb's to run HIS system. However, Ryan knew this going into the season and he was too stubborn to adjust. He waited 8 weeks to play more cover 2 which ended up working quite well. This made me question not only Ryan as a HC, but as a supposed defensive guru(that and having Harris cover Golden Tate). A true defensive guru adjusts his system to fit the talents that he has not force players to try to execute what they aren't capable of. In the meantime, he rushed back a player who wasn't physically able to perform. He did the same in 2013 by playing Cro on one hip. Milliner will benefit from a new staff allowing him to completely recover and see what his true potential is.
I guess his grade would be an incomplete at this point. However, when you come into camp out of shape(as reported last year) that could be a precursor to getting hurt. So yeah, I don't trust him to stay healthy, especially if he's not staying in football shape.
Good post.
I agree. Milliner is going to be a good player when he's 100% back from this injury.
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I still have hopes for Milliner! Now he can come back slowly with no pressure on him. I envision Revis & Cro on the outside and Skrine in the slot. Milliner had a very serious injury last season and can play sparingly this season as a 4 or 5 CB. Eventually he can expand his role.
The problem with giving him another year off is that you'll essentially be letting him rehab for his next team. If this was the old days when you drafted a player and he was yours in perpetuity, for as long as you wanted him, then I might see the logic in this, but we drafted this guy in the TOP 10 and still have virtually nothing to show for it, and he's not too far away from looking for his next contract, which will probably come elsewhere. Thats why I'm putting his ass out there to play if he can play. Not if he's still hurt, but if he's healthy and he can play, he's playing.
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Who would you bench to let him play? He tore his achilles tendon last year which is a serious injury. I understand Bowles loves to play dime, so I'm sure he will get some snaps, but I don't see him playing much other than that.
If he's healthy I'm not so sure that he shouldn't start opposite Revis. I certainly dont think Cromartie should just have that spot handed to him. If Milliner is healthy, then let him compete for that spot, may the best man win.
Cromartie is coming off a pro bowl season and is the most familiar with Bowles defense. If Milliner is healthy (and that is a huge if), I can't see him having a larger role than sub'g in Nickel and Dime packages. He has a lot to prove and the new CS has no connection to him, so he is going to have to earn every crumb he gets.
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I'm all for competition, I just feel that Milliner is coming off a serious injury and it may be advantageous to bring him back slow. Revis and Cro are a great starting combo. I envision Milliner eventually taking snaps from Cro however I think 2016 is more realistic.
^^^This! Milliner has a ton to prove first.
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I agree 100% with you.
Milliner has never been great. He had a stretch of 4 games where he played very well, but for most part has never been great at any other point. Milliner is the 3rd best CB at most and only because of physical gifts. If he works out then it's gravy for this team. If not it doesn't hurt us one bit.
We definitely watched different games.
Like I said if he pans out its just gravy at this point. If he doesn't he is easily replaceable.