Agree I hope its 55 - zip and Fitz throws another 6 ints... F woody, Mac and bowles they deserve a blow out.
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Agree I hope its 55 - zip and Fitz throws another 6 ints... F woody, Mac and bowles they deserve a blow out.
...i can't even get worked up at this point anymore, because this prick has already sucked the life/joy out of this season for me anyway..
bowles is hell bent on selling woody on a completely self serving 6-10 or 7-9 record, it's laughable..
oh, & for those who say petty will still get his shot this season, you better hope the jets don't win against NE.. because if fitzpatrick beats NE sunday, bowles won't bench him.. not with 7-9 still mathematically possible at least..
10-6 under last season was more about an historically weak schedule & an extremely mild december then this dim bulb..
i didn't want to believe it then but i damn sure do now..
bowles is hell bent on selling woody on a completely self serving 6-10 or 7-9 record, it's laughable..
oh, & for those who say petty will still get his shot this season, you better hope the jets don't win against NE.. because if fitzpatrick beats NE sunday, bowles won't bench him.. not with 7-9 still mathematically possible at least..
10-6 under last season was more about an historically weak schedule & an extremely mild december then this dim bulb..
i didn't want to believe it then but i damn sure do now..
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Rich cimini...
Statistically, Fitzpatrick is having arguably the worst passing season of any Jets quarterback in the post-Joe Namath era, but he's more equipped than Petty to win now, as crazy as that sounds. His grasp of Chan Gailey's offense allows them to use the full playbook, which helps the players around him. Young, developing players such as Robby Anderson would benefit from having Fitzpatrick's experience in the huddle.
I'm all for petty, but I'm not calling to fire everyone because he's not ready to start yet. His time will come this season.
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Everything Cimini just wrote is laughable... Anderson looked better with Petty and a handcuffed playbook. And the fact you say any QB is playing the worst in team history and is more quippied to win over anyone else is a F*&^ING joke....
Not laughable at all. it's very logical. Fitz being the worst doesn't mean I could do better.
Just because Fitz is having a bad year,doesn't automatically make petty ready. Petty just needs to take every opportunity to grow, his tone is coming quickly.
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perhaps.. but if petty isn't even ready to play after a year & a half in the system.. & 2nd rd hackenberg has been all but red shirted, with throwing mechanics that won't be addressed until the off season.. perhaps "the powers that be" are the real problem??
true.. bowles & fitzpatrick will obviously get smacked around by NE just like they did last season.. oh wait.....
The problem is as much with Gailey not opening the offense up for Petty, either.
I'm thinking along the same lines.It's either the kid cannot play, which leads me to believe that the scouting staff and Maccagnan are wasting draft picks OR he can play but the coaching staff is too inept to be able to get him ready in two and a half seasons when there are rookie QB's playing for a few teams out there and excelling.
If your telling Petty can't play this week because it's the Pats but they can rollout noodle arm Fitz,who knows the whole playbook but cannot possibly execute it because of his lack of arm strengths asinine. Then when the Jets lose by three TD's,and they will, what then. At 3-8, theft's OK to go to Petty. Now he is ready, that's total bullshit.
It won't happen,but i'm leaning towards the fire Bowles movement that i feel is starting to gain steam.
When that stadium is empty for the upcoming home games because one wants to see a 36 year old journeyman throwing picks all over the yard.
the reason he doesn't see it is because his eyes are blocked. He has his head up his ass.
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Extremely laughable
My actual point is talent evaluation is a crap shoot... Case in point, I'll again, point to Dak Prescott.. 4th rd pick.. almost every expert had Hack rated higher than him... regardless if most thought taking Hack in the 2nd was reaching as the 3rd rd was more where he should have went... 2 injuries and no real good options of veterans out there forced the Cowboys to play him and everyone said buckle up for a very rough start. Bottom line is Fitz sucks, we know that, we do not know what Petty will be some (Gruden) love him and think he has the potential to be a very good to great QB. Others believe he is a backup at best. The reality is until he plays and see significant game time no one knows.
And on another note... Stephen Jones said many months ago that Hackenberg was the QB on the Cowboys draft Board in RD2 or Rd3 they were looking to take and Prescott was the next option... So what does that say. Sometimes you gotta get lucky and Petty in the 4th Rd I think was a stoke of luck for us and hopefully the kid plays 4-5 games to end this year to show exactly who he is.
The Cowboys even tried to trade to get Connor Cook before Dak. They settled for Dak and found another franchise QB while the Jets suck so bad they can't even find one in 50 years. Never mind blowing up the team. They should blow up the entire franchise.
I've been mostly a Todd Bowles supporter, but what I'm seeing now is both alarming and indefensible, and I'm pretty sure we are seeing the same things, which is why I am also in the "Bowles Must Go" camp now.
So what am I seeing that is so alarming?
First, I believe Bowles has lost the team and the inmates are running the asylum, and once you have reached that point as a coach, its hard, if not impossible, to regain control of the team and the respect of the players, and I think this has been illustrated in a number of ways, just a general malaise and lack of discipline, but also (which brings me to the most important reason) ...
I think what we are seeing here with this Fitzpatrick decision is weakness masquerading as strength.
How so?
I see Bowles trying to portray this as a case of defying the fans and media and running his team the way he chooses to run it. IOW's trying to portray this as strength, the courage of his convictions if you will, but that would only be true if there was a genuine counter argument to be made for starting Fitz at this point, and there isn't, nothing about this decision makes an ounce of sense, the fans know it, the media knows it, the GM knows it, the owner of the team knows it, and I'm pretty certain that the HC knows it too.
This decision, as has been reported, is being driven entirely by certain veteran players who care nothing about the long term vision and health of this franchise and are only concerned with winning the next game. I don't blame the players for thinking that way, in the micro, thats how players think, thats how they are supposed to think, for them its always about the next game, but the adults who are responsible for the long term health of the football team cannot have that kind of tunnel vision, especially not in a losing season when your biggest issue is finding out if you have a QB for next year or if you still have to move heaven & earth to find one.
The adults in this situation must be taking the larger, macro view. We all know it. I know it, you know it, the fans know it, the media knows it, the GM knows it, the owner of the team knows it, and yes, the HC knows it too, unless he's a complete imbecile, and while I have my issues with Bowles, I don't believe he's a complete imbecile.
So what is driving this decision?
Weakness, the man is too weak to do what is right and not what his players are pressuring him to do, and that kind of weakness is the antithesis of what is required to be a leader and a successful head coach in this league. Bowles is trying to masquerade it as strength, but IMO this is 100% driven by weakness, thats why I'm convinced that he has to go.
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At this point anyone with an ounce of common sense is hoping for the worst. I hope NE beats us by 60 Points and Fitz breaks his own record (see KC) for INT's in a game. But lets be clear, its not really hoping for the worst. As I eluded too above, in the macro sense its hoping for the best. Unfortunately we are being driven to this as fans by managerial incompetence and weakness.
On the flip side, is there anything more unfair than giving a young QB one NFL start and essentially saying; "Blow me away in your first ever NFL start, or there won't be a second, not anytime soon."
I've been watching this game for a long time and I've never seen a young QB prospect given a one game leash, not if you are serious about finding out if he can play.
Concise and exactly right.
There really is no logic to this. We're starting an aging veteran on a one year deal who has ZERO chance of being back next year, in a season that is already lost, and ignoring the fact that we most likely need to get one of these kids ready to play QB on opening day next year, which means we need to take advantage of this opportunity to get them real reps in real NFL games so they can start to adjust to the speed of the game now. Continuing to start Fitz at this point is just the height of folly. Its the SOJ's revisited.
I was hoping that I would never have to say this about TB but he needs to be fired at the end of the year. This is ridiculous with this Fitzgarbage shit. The Jets are 3-7 and has no chance at all of making the playoffs. There's no chance any other teams that have five to six wins are going to just collapse, not that I can see and there's no way in hell that the Jets are going to win the remaining ot their games. So what are we doing here? TB needs to find out who is the QB of the future because it's obvious not Fitzpatrick-Fitzshitty. Everybody knows that and he should also.
I'm starting to think that he is doing this just to spite everybody, 90% of the Jets fans, the media and just football fans in general saying that it's time to bench Fitzpatrick. Who knows, maybe even some of the players and or some of the coaching staff and management are starting to feel like this. It just seems that TB just is not going to do it because he's not going to be forced to do what society or the majority thinks that he should do. Once again I was hoping I would never say this but he needs to be fired at the end of the year. The QB of the future for this team is most likely not on the staff. I believe that in my heart but there's only one way to find out. You have to play Petty and Hack and if you don't play them, how will he and we ever know?
I'm starting to think that he is doing this just to spite everybody, 90% of the Jets fans, the media and just football fans in general saying that it's time to bench Fitzpatrick. Who knows, maybe even some of the players and or some of the coaching staff and management are starting to feel like this. It just seems that TB just is not going to do it because he's not going to be forced to do what society or the majority thinks that he should do. Once again I was hoping I would never say this but he needs to be fired at the end of the year. The QB of the future for this team is most likely not on the staff. I believe that in my heart but there's only one way to find out. You have to play Petty and Hack and if you don't play them, how will he and we ever know?
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I hate it when people say Bowles will lose the locker room if he plays Petty. Well guess what morons?? He lost the locker room when he lost the 7th game. You cut the people that want to breach their contract by not performing on the field. Bye Mo/Revis/Sheldon and the other 90% of the trash on this team!! Fitz is the most average QB the league has ever seen. He has done very well to be average because he has no arm talent. He was a guy people fell in love with and I'm included in that because I wanted to ride the wave. Well he became Fitz again vs Buffalo last year. He held out while the whole league laughed at the Jets while they bid against themselves. Not one team was interested in Fitz. There is absolutely no reason to play Fitz and anyone who thinks there is might just be as stupid as Bowles. This is one of the many reasons I'm leaning toward not supporting the Jets going forward. Its not worth it. The whole organization should be contracted like in baseball. I'm sorry, but thats how I'm starting to feel. There might not be one person in the whole organization that is worth a shit. There is no end of the rainbow for the team. I'm only watching to see this blow up in their face!! Hopefully this week will be more embarrassing than the butt fumble.