when is your tell all book coming out:global (15):
Gary Myers said today he heard TB will be back as Jets HC next year
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when is your tell all book coming out:global (15):
Amen brother plus a few other players
yeah he almost made a winner out of two of the biggest losers in football....Fitz & marshall.......Charley Chan has not been much of a winner too
I guess his defense causing 30 turnovers and accumulating 22 sacks had nothing to do with the offenses' success? An offense that has good field position not able to score would make the OC look bad but his players were able to put points on the board so Gailey is the only one that gets credit, hmm...
how about the jets being at one of the lowest points in franchise history, just removed from 10-6??
does what's his face get any credit for that??
listen I know you hate him with a passion but you can not JUST blame him without giving him credit for the successful failure of last season...
it wasn't his fault that Fitzpatrick & Gailey's offense could NOT get it done against the Bills in the final game, matter of fact they had three games in the final four to win that one more game to get us into the playoffs...
can't give credit to one last year without also giving blame...
in the end the TEAM failed to make the playoffs not just Bowles...
I am not going to sit here and debate with everyone on why I believe this guy can be successful and with our team, when he (IF) he does it moving forward then you will see but I just have to be patient and wait for him to do it... First getting rid of the waste, old guys on the roster and turnover (complete the overhaul) they started when he got here...
so basically give this dope the authority to get rid of a bunch of players & coaches because he might not be the problem?? everyone else is??
well the silver lining is (for most jet fans anyway) a HC almost never gets to play that hand more than once..
BTW, i'm quite sure i don't "hate" bowles anymore than you "love" him..
Sorry so long getting back; I work for a living.
IMHO it was all Gailey and Fitz/Marshall?Decker. The players won in spite of his inability to adjust in game. A defensive back coach, haha... I can't even waste my time going there.
Leftover result of REX.
Again I don't think he had a thing to do with it. This year he had hoped that it would all fall in his lap again but the lottery only hits once in a great while.
This isn't a team ready to make a run. We aren't even a couple guys short. This is a transition into that kind of team. But when you have major holes in your roster, and most playmakers injured or on ir, it gets ugly.
The same person that argues Fitz and Marshall suck, argue Bowles can't coach. Bowles is lucky when he wins, and a bad coach when he loses.
I've accepted this is a rebuild, if we can get a veteran for nothing to be a leader for the short term great. And that's what we've done. We now have a core of future role players, and maybe some stars like big cat. Every year we build on that core, and we may just find ourselves in the right place at the right time.
With only 7 picks a year,and a salary cap, no team is going to rebuild instantly. We have to accept there will be some misses, but hopefully a lot of hits.
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Just food for thought; if each coach must get at least three years, then that means we get at most 10 chances in 30 years. That's not very many.
PS - Belichick and Peyton Manning are outliers. Most coaches and players who do poorly in their first seasons go on to be bad coaches and players, and are then out of the league in short order. Most coaches and players do not "develop" into Belichick and Manning, even if you give them four years. They prove that it COULD happen, because it HAS happened before, but the real question is how likely is it to happen? Where do you draw the line? If it was 1%, how many seasons would you give them? What if it was 75%? This factor makes a difference, IMO.
PS - Belichick and Peyton Manning are outliers. Most coaches and players who do poorly in their first seasons go on to be bad coaches and players, and are then out of the league in short order. Most coaches and players do not "develop" into Belichick and Manning, even if you give them four years. They prove that it COULD happen, because it HAS happened before, but the real question is how likely is it to happen? Where do you draw the line? If it was 1%, how many seasons would you give them? What if it was 75%? This factor makes a difference, IMO.
Success on the field is not a simple thing. It's not a good coach, good qb, good team. It's probably 5000 fluctuating things.
No one is saying a coach must get 3 years, the point is, this coach can't be judged on 2 years with a below average roster. He's had 1 good and 1 bad year, and by he,I mean we.
You hire and fire coaches based on their management, philosophy,knowledge of the game,etc. People saying this coach is in over his head, are being extremists. And this reactionary fan base is not conducive to a stable environment. Players and coaches often have down years,except the absolute elite. Jumping down their throat over one bad year is a great way to be a loading franchise.
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"Gary Myers said today he heard TB will be back as Jets HC next year"
That's like being told that the huge meteor is on the way toward Earth.
Of course, the report is from that cretinous little vermin who has never said anything positive about the Jets, so I consider the source.
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That's like being told that the huge meteor is on the way toward Earth.
Of course, the report is from that cretinous little vermin who has never said anything positive about the Jets, so I consider the source.
Later
Earth to Mykcuz, trust your eyes. It really is that bad.
17 guys on ir, and marginal talent to begin with. No offensive line, no te, no Decker, b Marshall injured since buffalo, no secondary, no edge rushers, rookies at lb. The only quality play we have is at DT. This season has imploded, I just don't think you can blame Bowles for this. Does he have room to grow,of course, is he irredeemable, no.
Did you expect to hire a first time coach for a marginal team, and not have growing pains?
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This is, in my opinion, completely correct. It is so hard to judge as a fan, and the way everything is connected makes it even so that stats can be misleading or uninformative. So trust in the front office/coaches to evaluate everything is really important. Maybe that is part of why fans are impatient with them, because without immediate success, it becomes hard to keep trusting.
Fair enough. I think Mac has got to take blame here, too.
This makes sense, too. We don't usually hire anyone with any track record, though, so there is less leeway. I will say, though, that they should not listen to the fans in making these decisions!
LOLz the smith debates were definitely more heated then the bowles stuff..
this is tame in comparison..