Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

[Mugatu]

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Why can't everyone here now just acknowledge what is clear by reading between the lines?

Geno Smith is an A$$hole. He's a scumbag, a real POS.

In no way do I condone IK's actions. He should have been cut. But it's clear to me and it should be to everyone else also, that Geno decided to stiff one of his very own teammates. Geno does not realize or acknowledge what he's been told over and over again. He has a higher responsibility. With that responsibility it is incumbent for Geno to show integrity/honesty toward his teammates and set the right example.

He did not do that here. He took the very shallow and extremely immature way out. And that's how you arrive at knowing Geno Smith is a POS.

Try not to spin things because you are a Jets fan. Just acknowledge that just like everything else, things do not always run smoothly. They may not run smoothly because you have the wrong guy on your team. He upsets the chemistry of the team. Geno is a problem here. The sooner people realize that and acknowledge it, the sooner we can realize what we need to do to move forward and fix it.

I don't know if he is a scumbag POS, because I have heard some stories about how he is great with fans.... That being said, I do think it is abundantly clear that he is immature as hell, and not all that bright. It's also apparent that he has lost the locker room (or never had it in the first place).

The question now is how the team handles his eventual exit from the team. If Fitz plays well and keeps the starting job, that is best case scenario. We have a placeholder QB and can go get a young guy next year. Geno can be released/traded for a late pick next offseason.

However if Fitz plays poorly and Geno comes back and plays OK then it gets a bit more complicated. iF this happens, it is going to be hard for the team to walk away from him, even if he is just viewed as a backup going forward. I'm also not sure he has the makeup to be the guy to backup whomever we draft. Not sure I want him mentoring anyone.

 

[Lakerfan80]

Geno playing ok isn't good enough. You really think this guy, or the team could handle a stadium full of booing on his first pick, or 3 and out.

 

[OCCH]

Geno playing ok isn't good enough. You really think this guy, or the team could handle a stadium full of booing on his first pick, or 3 and out.

If this happened week 1, I think Geno would have been booed out of the stadium.

If it happens after Fitz proves inadequate, I definitely think fans will be more patient, simply because there's no other option until next season . . .

 

[jetgreen13]

Geno playing ok isn't good enough. You really think this guy, or the team could handle a stadium full of booing on his first pick, or 3 and out.

LOLz those days are gone for good with our fanbase!!

 

[Lakerfan80]

Fans weren't even patient at a scrimmage game..there will be another option as Geno has failed to prove he's even a good option.

 

[flgreen]

I don't see Smith returning early as good news. IMO that is going to create a real locker room problem. The Jets don't need that right now. Smith isn't good enough to over look his being a locker room cancer.

I just hope Flynn is healthy, and they move on.

 

[Jets31]

I don't see Smith returning early as good news. IMO that is going to create a real locker room problem. The Jets don't need that right now. Smith isn't good enough to over look his being a locker room cancer.

I just hope Flynn is healthy, and they move on.

Flynn is definitely not the answer. Probably bringing him in to pick his brain about the Pats as much as anything else

 

[flgreen]

Flynn is definitely not the answer. Probably bringing him in to pick his brain about the Pats as much as anything else

Flynn may, or may not be the answer. Smith clearly isn't. Even before the incident there was certainly a lot of question if he could even be an average QB. After this it appears he's lost the team. If he comes back, and for some reason gets the starting job back, it is going to fracture the locker room. if he was Andrew Luck it would be worth taking The risk. He's not. There is nothing to be gained by bringing him back now.

Bowles needs to get his cred back in the locker room that he lost with the spin he put on that presser.

 

[Elias]

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[Jets31]

Flynn may, or may not be the answer. Smith clearly isn't. Even before the incident there was certainly a lot of question if he could even be an average QB. After this it appears he's lost the team. If he comes back, and for some reason gets the starting job back, it is going to fracture the locker room. if he was Andrew Luck it would be worth taking The risk. He's not. There is nothing to be gained by bringing him back now.

Bowles needs to get his cred back in the locker room that he lost with the spin he put on that presser.

I think you are assuming a lot based on a little amount of info that we have.

As far as Flynn goes he is every bit as much of a failure as Geno if not more so I don't see how he "might be" the answer.

 

[hobson54]

Flynn may, or may not be the answer. Smith clearly isn't. Even before the incident there was certainly a lot of question if he could even be an average QB. After this it appears he's lost the team. If he comes back, and for some reason gets the starting job back, it is going to fracture the locker room. if he was Andrew Luck it would be worth taking The risk. He's not. There is nothing to be gained by bringing him back now.

Bowles needs to get his cred back in the locker room that he lost with the spin he put on that presser.

i don't think any players in the locker room will have a problem with how bowles handled the geno-IK fight.

it's the geno-hating fans with whom he seemingly lost cred, not the men in the locker room

 

[flgreen]

i don't think any players in the locker room will have a problem with how bowles handled the geno-IK fight.

it's the geno-hating fans with whom he seemingly lost cred, not the men in the locker room

I have to disagree.

Bowles told the team to keep the "cause" in house. He clearly didn't want to injure his starting QB's rep. He used words like "Sucker punch".

It's being leaked all over theplace. Not just by one player, but clearly several of them aren't buying into the "throw IK under the bus, and protect Geno" position.

players are saying it wasn't a sucker punch. Smith walked across the locker room to confront IK. Another player said Geno got what he deserved.

As a rookie HC, this is not a good thing that the players are defying him.

 

[OCCH]

I have to disagree.

Bowles told the team to keep the "cause" in house. He clearly didn't want to injure his starting QB's rep. He used words like "Sucker punch".

It's being leaked all over theplace. Not just by one player, but clearly several of them aren't buying into the "throw IK under the bus, and protect Geno" position.

players are saying it wasn't a sucker punch. Smith walked across the locker room to confront IK. Another player said Geno got what he deserved.

As a rookie HC, this is not a good thing that the players are defying him.

It's possible Geno provoked the punch, but IK still "sucker-punched" him. (Maybe Geno was walking away and IK caught up with him or something).

Point is, I wouldn't say the players are necessarily defying the coach. At his initial press conference he said the players would be free to talk about it if they chose to. I don't blame the coach for erring on the side of the player who was still on the roster, or the players for feeling Geno was asking for it.

IMO this episode shows much less respect for Geno than for Bowles . . .

 

[hobson54]

actually bowles said both players are at fault and acted like 6th graders. bowles said he won't discuss it further, but it's up to the players if they want to talk about it.

i don't disagree that players aren't rallying around geno. that doesn't bode well for geno. but nowhere am i getting the sense that players feel like bowles threw IK under the bus and is at risk of losing the locker room.

btw - here are some comments from mangold, revis and colon on the matter. seems like they are blaming both and all 3 used the term sucker punch as well.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/je...erans-shocked-devastated-by-locker-room-fight


FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets' season was altered in a split second, and it left some of their veteran leaders positively fuming.

"This isn't a UFC match," a disgusted Willie Colon told a crowd of reporters Tuesday after practice. "We're football players, not fighters."

"It's shocking," Darrelle Revis said. "It's devastating."

The Jets lost their starting quarterback during a one-punch altercation in the locker room. Backup linebacker IK Enemkpali threw the punch, hitting Geno Smith in the face. He hit him with such force that it resulted in two fractures in Smith's jaw, requiring surgery. Smith will miss at least six to 10 weeks, according to the Jets.

Enemkpali lost his cool because Smith owed him $600, sources said. As a result, Enemkpali, a former sixth-round pick on the roster bubble, lost his job. He was released soon after coach Todd Bowles met with him and Smith.

"Probably makes sense," Nick Mangold said of the decision to fire Enemkpali.

The Jets, perhaps trying to contain the controversy, made only four players available to the media -- Colon, Revis, Mangold and Calvin Pace. Obviously, they have a mess on their hands and it could blow up into a season-long distraction if they're not careful, according to Colon.

"Things like this can become a cancer," he said.

The fallout bears close watching. Revis seemed upset with Smith, saying, "I hold them both responsible, just the way it played out."

Obviously, Revis isn't happy that Smith is injured, but he intimated that the quarterback could've done a better job of handling the matter before it escalated.

"It should've never got to a sucker punch in the locker room and a scuffle, especially in the locker room," Revis said.

Asked if he blames Smith, Revis said, "Everybody makes mistakes. We, as a team, can't not accept him back. But this is somebody we were counting on. My answer is to not let it get to that situation. Obviously, to get to that point, something had to be going on. Geno and IK should've handled themselves as men."

Colon seemed incredulous when asked if Smith is partly to blame.

"Nobody sees a sucker punch coming," he said. "It's about respecting your teammates."

Revis, Pace and Mangold have been around the Jets as far back as 2006, and they all said they've never seen anything like that in the locker room.

None of the players offered any eyewitness accounts of what happened. Mangold said he was in the trainers' room and heard about an altercation in the locker room. The rest closed ranks, not wanting to divulge any details.

"I've never seen a sucker punch thrown in a locker room," Mangold said.

Stick around this team long enough, and you'll see everything.

 

[Superman55]

So all the players that were there felt Geno was sucker punched...while dipshits on this site feel IK felt his life was at risk and geno deserved it...makes sense actually.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Geno is just a distraction at this point. Geno asked to get smacked and in doing so may have ruined the season. Not because Geno is good, but because of the distraction at the worst possible time while they are learning and preparing for the season. For this I won't forgive him or cheer for him if he comes back. I will also lose respect for Bowles as well.

 

[Superman55]

Geno is just a distraction at this point. Geno asked to get smacked and in doing so may have ruined the season. Not because Geno is good, but because of the distraction at the worst possible time while they are learning and preparing for the season. For this I won't forgive him or cheer for him if he comes back. I will also lose respect for Bowles as well.

lose respect for Bowles? Why not add the jets too? Lose respect for the jets also. Then you can root for another team!

Also, lose respect for the NFL while you're at it. They are looking to suspend IK...they reportedly aren't even looking into Geno. Lose respect for the NFL too. You could just stop watching the sport all together! Maybe pick up rock kicking as a new hobby?

 

[Elias]

I think we might all be reading a bit too much into this whole act.

 

[JohnnyBaseball1]

I feel bad for Geno. He got punched in the face, and everyone is basically saying "well, he probably deserved it. And even if he didn't, it is still his fault anyway, because no one respects him." You can't get more insulting than that.

And just as a general note, anyone who finds themselves regularly getting into verbal altercations which they believe have the potential to explode into physical violence at any moment needs to examine their own behavior, because that is NOT something that happens to normal people who aren't being total assholes.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

lose respect for Bowles? Why not add the jets too? Lose respect for the jets also. Then you can root for another team!

Also, lose respect for the NFL while you're at it. They are looking to suspend IK...they reportedly aren't even looking into Geno. Lose respect for the NFL too. You could just stop watching the sport all together! Maybe pick up rock kicking as a new hobby?

I never said that dude. Typical SuperD making outrageous assumptions.


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