Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

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HYATT™

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drew stanton
The thought DID cross HYATT™'s mind, but HOW are you going to pry #2 backup to a brittle Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, loose from AZ before they'd offer Logan Thomas up? (Who looked a LOT better in preseason against KC tonight, incidentally.)


HYATT™ has purposely avoided weighing in on the whole Deflate Face issue, because in the immediate aftermath a lot of conflicting reports always come out and it takes a while to rip through who ACTUALLY knew what.
So far as HYATT™ can determine at this point, these things appear to be true;

1.) Mr. Smith promised to appear at a charity event for IK, and backed out at the last minute - leaving IK's event short-handed.
This is a serious matter, since people show up and donate large sums of money to see what they were promised & when they don't get it, feel somewhat cheated. That has a long lasting impact on IK's charity's ability to raise funds down the road.
The $600 amount is immaterial, especially in a world of half-millionaires.
We must all understand that this was all about "respect" and not about the actual money or amount thereof, when rookies can get stuck with a restaurant tab for THOUSANDS of dollars and have to swallow it as part of the job & to earn their own respect.

2.) Mr Smith claims the death of a "friend of a friend" or some such, was his rationale for not showing up for IK's charity event.
So far nobody has proven that death actually happened, though I suppose that is just a technical oversight at this point.
In any event, Brett Favre played OAK the day after his own FATHER passed away, when he had every reason to go back to Kiln to support his mother & family.

THAT is the difference between a professional that the locker room will follow into HELL itself and a not-so-respected crap QB like Mr. Smith.
A RESPECTED professional meets his obligations, unless there are extraordinary circumstances.
The death of someone not all that close to you is NOT "extraordinary" enough to screw over a team mate counting on your support for charity purposes.
In fact, HYATT™ has STILL not heard a word about whether or not it would have been possible for Mr. Smith to do BOTH - which was PROBABLY an option, though it would have involved Mr. Smith doing a bit of scrambling for time.

3.) The witnesses differ on whether or not Mr. Smith was smacked from behind - sucker-punch fashion - or just pasted in the face.
Accounts seem to support the idea that those made available by the team did NOT actually see the event in question and were commenting using the HC's PREFERRED language in saying the term "sucker-punch" - but in fact they did not KNOW whether or not it was such a dastardly act.
They were just doing their duty to coach and team, as they were instructed, but too many conflicting descriptions now exist for anyone of reasonable intellectual skills to continue to believe it was in fact a true "sucker-punch" - aside from the fact that HYATT™'s own personal experience with sucker punches tells him that receiving one usually involves being hit upside the eyeball socket or the side of the head, and NOT the jaw in such a force and fashion as to break it.
THAT particular aspect has NEVER rung true from the git-go.

4.) RESPECTED persons more often than not have many people willing to jump into a developing ugly situation to save that person from negative repercussions. Witness what OL players will do for their QB on the field any time they perceive him to have been unfairly hit by a defender. It can get ugly out there & we've all seen helmets fly & punches thrown as a result.

Mr. Smith apparently did not have one single person present in the locker room willing to step in on his behalf, to either defend him or protect him.
That simply does NOT happen, if your QB is respected - unless he is perceived by others to be deserving of whatever comes next.
These are violent men playing a violent sport, many of whom come from violent youths spent in violent neighborhoods where getting up in somebody's face can get you a lot worse than smacked in the face.
To believe not ONE of them could see this coming is to ask us to suspend disbelief & accept that this was so one-sided that Mr. Smith was completely innercent and it was impossible for IK to have actually raised a fist and smote him.
HYATT™ was born at night but he wasn't born LAST night.

5.) Already TOO many people have failed to condemn IK. We all get it that it is a PC culture, even in the NFL these days, but the failure to soundly and loudly condemn IK's action in any stronger terms than "it was 6th grade behavior" & "I'm disappointed in both players" begs the question;
WHY isn't anyone really condemning IK strongly?
Especially given that it happened to a supposed team FRANCHISE QB - whom we all know are covered in silk and gold and NEVER, EVER touched by anyone other than a defender from another team, and not even then without a 15 yard penalty and a hefty fine by the league.

In all honesty, HYATT™ must disclose that he NEVER considered Mr. Smith to be NFL QB material.
It may be that that fact colors HYATT™'s perceptions as to Mr. Smith's guilt or innocence in this matter, but HYATT™ also believes 6 semesters of college level psychology courses gives him sufficient training to believe the logic behind the matters just discussed is sound enough to withstand scrutiny as to motivations and expected behaviors of people in this profession, coming from the backgrounds many have.

HYATT™ NEVER for a second believed Mr. Smith would ever fulfill the franchise QB role and said many months ago - when The Amish Rifle was signed - that Fitzpatrick would open for the Jets as the starting QB in Week 1.
HYATT™ must admit, this was a surprising way for that prediction to come to fruition, but it was NOT UNEXPECTED!
One way or another, GeNOT Smith was NEVER going to take the first snap on offense in the 1st game of the season, for the Jets.
This was just a strange way of the inevitable coming about.
 
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sg3

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Did a post include Geno and Super Bowl in the same sentence?

Must have been a typo or smart phone auto correct
 

NYJETSDAN16

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The worst thing to do to this team at this moment is to play Geno Smith week one. It will throw a wrench into the system and the offense will be completely off set. By the 3rd pre season game, it will be a prelude on what game one will be.

This is a scenario (if some fans wont kill me on this) that i wanted for the Jets last year. Have a veteran start the season and have Geno sit and see a different perspective from the sidelines, read the print outs of the plays that occured, pick the starting QB's brain and be patient. Yes, Mike Vick was turn over machine, but he has been in this league for a long time. Geno could have seen things differently than being benched 1/2 way through the season in favor of Mike then have the pressure of management force him into the starting lineup.

In essence, Geno has never had to prove himself to be a starter in this league. In 3 years, the role was gift wrapped for him due to his "Physical talents". Now he has to utilize an unknown talent which is between the ears. Become a student of the game and wait for his opportunity to put it all together. Fitz will play week one. Smith will be waiting in the wings, hopefully he can seize the moment if his number is called up. So far he's behind the 8 ball of his chances to succeeed with this new regime, especially placing himself in the position which he clearly could have avoided.
 
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sg3

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The worst thing to do to this team at this moment is to PLAY GENO SMITH WEEK ONE.
It will throw a wrench into the system and the offense will be completely off set. By the 3rd pre season game, it will be a prelude on what game one will be.

This is a scenario (if some fans wont kill me on this) that i wanted for the Jets last year. Have a veteran start the season and have Geno sit and see a different perspective from the sidelines, read the print outs of the plays that occured, pick the starting QB's brain and be patient. Yes, Mike Vick was turn over machine, but he has been in this league for a long time. Geno could have seen things differently than being benched 1/2 way through the season in favor of Mike then have the pressure of management force him into the starting lineup.

In essence, Geno has never had to prove himself to be a starter in this league. In 3 years, the role was gift wrapped for him due to his "Physical talents". Now he has to utilize an unknown talent which is between the ears. Become a student of the game and wait for his opportunity to put it all together. Fitz will play week one. Smith will be waiting in the wings, hopefully he can seize the moment if his number is called up. So far he's behind the 8 ball of his chances to succeeed with this new regime, especially placing himself in the position which he clearly could have avoided.

Change WEEK ONE to EVER and you are 1000% spot on
 
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flgreen

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I hadn't heard this story before



Iowa State DC on Geno Smith getting cold-cocked: 'Didn't surprise me'


Randy Peterson, rpeterson@dmreg.com 4:56 p.m. CDT August 12, 2015
Geno Smith
(Photo: AP)

AMES, Ia. – So Wally, are you surprised that a teammate cold-cocked New York Jets quarterback Geno Smith in the jaw?

Pause.

"Didn't surprise me," Iowa State's defensive coordinator Wally Burnham said after practice Wednesday.

Burnham knows all about run-ins with the former West Virginia star, whose jaw was broken by teammate IK Enemkpali during a locker room confrontation Tuesday reportedly over a $600 airplane ticket.


FOR THE WIN
Losing Geno Smith could be a blessing in disguise for the New York Jets

At halftime of the Iowa State-West Virginia game in 2012 at Jack Trice Stadium, Smith ran into Burnham as the teams headed toward their locker rooms.

"I was just walking," said Burnham, who was 71 in 2012. "He pushed me."

One of the first Cyclones on the scene was Wally's son, Shane, who coaches defensive tackles.

"We were holding for the West Virginia team to clear the field," Shane recalled Wednesday. "There was some extra-curricular activity after the last play of the half — Geno didn't appreciate something by somebody, and he took out his frustration on dad."

That didn't sit well with Shane, who did what every son would do.

"I reacted," Shane said. "Part of it is that it's your dad, and part of it is it's your Iowa State brother. It was family and football family for me. It was a double-whammy.

"He had some choice words for dad, and I might have had a few choice words in return."

Shane and Smith talked again on the field before the second half.

"We had a follow-up conversation," Shane said.

Was it nice?

"We continued the conversation," Shane said.

After the game, Cyclones linebacker Jake Knott tweeted:

"G. Smith trying to push over Coach W Burnham at half was the most classless thing I've seen. Esp. from a "leader" #GrowUp "

So after West Virginia won 31-24, did Smith apologize to Wally Burnham?

"You think so?" he responded.

That's a no.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tant-coach-wally-burnham-geno-smith/31543789/
 
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sg3

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More good reasons why Ryan Fitzpatrick taking over as the Jet starting QB this season may be the best thing to happen to the team since drafting Joe Namath in 1964 and signing him away the NFL St Louis Cardinals
 

Savage69

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More good reasons why Ryan Fitzpatrick taking over as the Jet starting QB this season may be the best thing to happen to the team since drafting Joe Namath in 1964 and signing him away the NFL St Louis Cardinals

That was 1965 and we drafted 4 QB's in the first 7 rds..LOL
 
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Mainejet

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Its amazing how stupid Jet fans are for blaming Geno.....

They're not blaming Geno. They are blaming BOTH of them. Where do you come up with this? Geno antagonized a fellow teammate of his. That, in itself is completely stupid when considering the higher responsibility a QB is supposed to have. IK slugging him, just shows how much of an idiot he is for responding to such childishness.

But make no mistake about it, he is 100% just as much culpable in this debacle as IK is. Don't forget that.

Do not blame Jets fans for wanting the team to run harmoniously. You do that by getting rid of all of the "bad" seeds on the team. Geno IS a bad seed. So is IK. In a perfect world, BOTH should be gone, not only due to the fact that they're idiots, but also due to the fact that they both suck as players. Both were barely clinging to their roster spots.

However, where one is the starting QB (albeit for the lack of a better option) and the other was a projected ST player, the response becomes different. Due to money concerns, the Jets cannot simply cut Geno Smith as much as they probably want to. They will have to wait until the end of the season. IK was making chump change, easy as hell to cut him.
 
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flgreen

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I hadn't heard this story before



Iowa State DC on Geno Smith getting cold-cocked: 'Didn't surprise me'


Randy Peterson, rpeterson@dmreg.com 4:56 p.m. CDT August 12, 2015
Geno Smith
(Photo: AP)

AMES, Ia. – So Wally, are you surprised that a teammate cold-cocked New York Jets quarterback Geno Smith in the jaw?

Pause.

"Didn't surprise me," Iowa State's defensive coordinator Wally Burnham said after practice Wednesday.

Burnham knows all about run-ins with the former West Virginia star, whose jaw was broken by teammate IK Enemkpali during a locker room confrontation Tuesday reportedly over a $600 airplane ticket.


FOR THE WIN
Losing Geno Smith could be a blessing in disguise for the New York Jets

At halftime of the Iowa State-West Virginia game in 2012 at Jack Trice Stadium, Smith ran into Burnham as the teams headed toward their locker rooms.

"I was just walking," said Burnham, who was 71 in 2012. "He pushed me."

One of the first Cyclones on the scene was Wally's son, Shane, who coaches defensive tackles.

"We were holding for the West Virginia team to clear the field," Shane recalled Wednesday. "There was some extra-curricular activity after the last play of the half — Geno didn't appreciate something by somebody, and he took out his frustration on dad."

That didn't sit well with Shane, who did what every son would do.

"I reacted," Shane said. "Part of it is that it's your dad, and part of it is it's your Iowa State brother. It was family and football family for me. It was a double-whammy.

"He had some choice words for dad, and I might have had a few choice words in return."

Shane and Smith talked again on the field before the second half.

"We had a follow-up conversation," Shane said.

Was it nice?

"We continued the conversation," Shane said.

After the game, Cyclones linebacker Jake Knott tweeted:

"G. Smith trying to push over Coach W Burnham at half was the most classless thing I've seen. Esp. from a "leader" #GrowUp "

So after West Virginia won 31-24, did Smith apologize to Wally Burnham?

"You think so?" he responded.

That's a no.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tant-coach-wally-burnham-geno-smith/31543789/

Think Smith dodged a bullet here. Shoving some one's 71 YO father will get your jaw broken pretty quick in most circles
 

soj

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Jets coach Todd Bowles upset at Geno Smith for throwing footballs just days after surgery
BY SETH WALDER


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...wing-footballs-days-surgery-article-1.2327758

“Bowles, who said Smith was told not to due any physical activity, said Sunday at Jets camp that Smith will not be disciplined and the team has “handled that internally,” though he wouldn’t say if he specifically spoke to the injured quarterback.”

Here is another example of this guys poor decision making... enough is enough... I am no longer interested in hearing about Smith's potential... IMHO he should be traded at the end of the year... if that is even possible.
 
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flgreen

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Jets coach Todd Bowles upset at Geno Smith for throwing footballs just days after surgery
BY SETH WALDER


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...wing-footballs-days-surgery-article-1.2327758

“Bowles, who said Smith was told not to due any physical activity, said Sunday at Jets camp that Smith will not be disciplined and the team has “handled that internally,” though he wouldn’t say if he specifically spoke to the injured quarterback.”

Here is another example of this guys poor decision making... enough is enough... I am no longer interested in hearing about Smith's potential... IMHO he should be traded at the end of the year... if that is even possible.

IDK

How much value do you think he has right now?
 

Elias

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Let the debate continue!

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OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
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So we're supposed to be impressed that the ONLY person that came to his defense was his best bud and EVERYONE else either cast partial blame or chose to not say anything?

I have no problem admitting I don't know the facts, but I still don't think the circumstantial evidence paints Geno in a very good light . . .
 
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