Grade the Jets Draft

[HYATT™]

HYATT™ couldn't, in all honesty, go higher than a B+
Not enamored with the choice of WR, not with DG-B, Strong, Funchess, Conley, & Coates still available.
It strikes HYATT™ as flash over future, fool's gold, sorta. Smith will probably turn out to be an adequate receiver, but at #37 it could have been so much more. Hill hangover effect, HYATT™ suspects - they were afraid to walk out on that "high ceiling raw prospect" limb again.
Cudda bin werse, I suppose - they cudda reached for Lockett.

HYATT™ is also disappointed in the trade back from #70, where they COULD have gotten Eli Harold, instead of settling for Mauldin - even if it did result in a 5th back.

Finally, HYATT™ really is NOT impressed with the drafting of Petty.
Yes, he's probably slightly better than GeNOT's ceiling will ever be, but he's no franchise QB and never will be.
Brandon Bridge and Jerry Lovelocke are yer typical development QBs with a higher ceiling, and both went UDFA.
Maybe if they had taken Petty for only a Rd 5 pick it would have felt better, but odds are he would have gone before that.
It just felt like a desperation move to HYATT™, and those are never good choices.

Bryce Petty, (androgynous name, that - I have a woman friend named Bryce), is like some dates you may have had.
You really enjoy watching her come, but you'll enjoy watching her go even more.
(There's an old dirty joke in there somewhere.)
<Yawn>
Right now Jets fans are full of endorphins, it's a new love affair, but before too long, things will start to sour and it'll feel more like a shotgun wedding, HYATT™ promises you.
Until then, enjoy the high and pay no attention to the little bald man behind the green font.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

HYATT™ is also disappointed in the trade back from #70, where they COULD have gotten Eli Harold, instead of settling for Mauldin - even if it did result in a 5th back.

What it comes down to is, would you rather have Harold, or Mauldin AND Jarvis Harrison?

Without that 5 we have no 5th RD Pick, and with no 6 either, no Harrison.

That said, I like Eli Harold, mocked him to the Jets a few times, but I'd rather have Mauldin AND Harrison.

What about you?

 

[HYATT™]

What it comes down to is, would you rather have Harold, or Mauldin AND Jarvis Harrison?

Without that 5 we have no 5th RD Pick, and with no 6 either, no Harrison.

That said, I like Eli Harold, mocked him to the Jets a few times, but I'd rather have Mauldin AND Harrison.

What about you?

Thought about mentioning that, but ultimately Jarvis Harrison doesn't strike me as either a necessity or a game changer.
It's nice the Jets got an extra draft pick and used it on the OL, but honestly, VALUE matters, not numbers.
Regardless of where he went or how he was valued, Eli Harold was thought to be, and likely is, of more value than Mauldin+Harrison - PARTICULARLY on a team like the Jets, so devoid of an outside pass rush.

Babin, Pace, Q, Davis - they all sux.
(17 COMBINED sacks last season)
It takes all 4 of them to do what 1 decent pass rusher SHOULD be doing behind THIS All-Pro DL.
If you have any stones at all, you'd admit that much.
Aldon Smith AVERAGES 11 per year all by hisself in SF.
Houston (22) and Dumervil (17) had at least that many each.
Barwin & Miller had 14.5 apiece.
NONE of those guys gets the advantage of playing behind this powerful of a DL.

Mauldin better play his sweet ASS OFF, is all HYATT™ has to say 'bout that.

 

[hobson54]

What it comes down to is, would you rather have Harold, or Mauldin AND Jarvis Harrison?

Without that 5 we have no 5th RD Pick, and with no 6 either, no Harrison.

That said, I like Eli Harold, mocked him to the Jets a few times, but I'd rather have Mauldin AND Harrison.

What about you?

actually it would be harold or mauldin, harrison, the 7th used to ensure we got petty (granted HYATT doesn't like petty) and posier (although i consider him a JAG)

time will tell who will have the better career between harold and mauldin. while harold was the popular name here and mocked by some as a 1st or early 2nd (i had the jets taking him in the 2nd), it seems evident that nfl scouts didn't view him as highly as he was the 8th OLB taken and 79th overall pick. now maybe it's a steal, or maybe it's a sign we over-hyped him before the draft.

i too didn't like the trade down at the time, but after seeing macc work wonders on day 3, i'm absolutely fine with it.

 

[hobson54]

Thought about mentioning that, but ultimately Jarvis Harrison doesn't strike me as either a necessity or a game changer.
It's nice the Jets got an extra draft pick and used it on the OL, but honestly, VALUE matters, not numbers.
Regardless of where he went or how he was valued, Eli Harold was thought to be, and likely is, of more value than Mauldin+Harrison - PARTICULARLY on a team like the Jets, so devoid of an outside pass rush.

Babin, Pace, Q, Davis - they all sux.
(17 COMBINED sacks last season)
It takes all 4 of them to do what 1 decent pass rusher SHOULD be doing behind THIS All-Pro DL.
If you have any stones at all, you'd admit that much.
Aldon Smith AVERAGES 11 per year all by hisself in SF.
Houston (22) and Dumervil (17) had at least that many each.
Barwin & Miller had 14.5 apiece.
NONE of those guys gets the advantage of playing behind this powerful of a DL.

Mauldin better play his sweet ASS OFF, is all HYATT™ has to say 'bout that.

the jets finished tied for 6th in sacks last year, and that was playing in front of an awful secondary. they've upgraded the secondary just a bit (understatement of the year) and added williams to a ferocious d-line. i'm not too worried about bowles' ability to pressure the QB with this defense.

 

[Superman55]

Great draft I gave it an A but it could be an A+
I would just like to see them on the field before I go hog wild

Exactly why I scored it an A.

jets came out of the draft with a top shelf talent on the DL, WR, OLB, QB, RB (Stacy), WR (marshall and Smith), and MLB depth (Jones Mich St)...pretty sure thats exactly what we went into the draft looking for. We will have to see how these guys pan out, but if we listed the positions we needed, each box was checked, IMO.

 

[hobson54]

Exactly why I scored it an A.

jets came out of the draft with a top shelf talent on the DL, WR, OLB, QB, RB (Stacy), WR (marshall and Smith), and MLB depth (Jones Mich St)...pretty sure thats exactly what we went into the draft looking for. We will have to see how these guys pan out, but if we listed the positions we needed, each box was checked, IMO.

i gave it an A and am not complaining, but i think it's reasonable to say they didn't address offensive tackle. granted their are only so many picks they have to address their needs.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

i gave it an A and am not complaining, but i think it's reasonable to say they didn't address offensive tackle. granted their are only so many picks they have to address their needs.

Agreed

If we like what we see from Petty in camp and the staff feels like he has a real chance to be the answer in 2016 and beyond, our #1 priority next year will without question be offensive tackle. We addressed so many needs this year, but this team had a million holes and you can't fix everything in one off season.

Maybe next year we draft Bryce Petty's blue-chip LT at Baylor in RD 1, Spencer Drango.

 

[SackExchange]

Exactly why I scored it an A.

jets came out of the draft with a top shelf talent on the DL, WR, OLB, QB, RB (Stacy), WR (marshall and Smith), and MLB depth (Jones Mich St)...pretty sure thats exactly what we went into the draft looking for. We will have to see how these guys pan out, but if we listed the positions we needed, each box was checked, IMO.

I don't follow. Why did you give it an A and not an A+?

Because they haven't shown it on the field yet?

 

[Superman55]

I don't follow. Why did you give it an A and not an A+?

Because they haven't shown it on the field yet?

I guess Id ask what warrants an A+ about this class? Maybe if Williams didnt have shoulder
concerns...maybe if Petty was more pro ready...the kid has taken 5 snaps under center the last 4 years and has never read a defense or progressed through WRs to throw a pass...or he's one of the least NFL ready QB in the draft...that and he's 24 with back issues...meaning when he's ready to play he'll likely be 25 or 26 with back issues. Smith was a nice WR addition, Jones was great value as a UDFA, and Stacy and Marshall were awesome value for what we gave up.

...but its hard to give an A+ to a #6 pick that could have us in the same situation Clowney put the Texans in (always a nagging issue and shoulders that lead to long term issues we dont know about). We thought we didnt have to worry about Milliner's injury history and how has that turned out? Also, Petty is a hair younger from being Chris Weinke...

On paper, these picks are awesome...that's why there is an A. If we landed a Williams with zero shoulder issues (a DT that wont lift for scouts is a concern, he wouldn't lift weights at his pro day or the combine and said he had no reason to not lift weights...which means there is no reason he couldn't...unless he has something to hide from teams and scouts) and a quickly aging QB that needs to learn the basics on how to be a QB...like how to take a snap...There is a lot of work and risk before we know this is an A+....

 

[cysporsche]

Every monday morning following the draft, I race out to buy a USA Today newspaper. I'm disappointed today because the paper did not only put in the individual team grades, but I like the team section with all the teams draft picks ? Does anyone know what the deal is ?

Go Jets...Cyborg

 

[sg3]

I guess Id ask what warrants an A+ about this class? Maybe if Williams didnt have shoulder
concerns...maybe if Petty was more pro ready...the kid has taken 5 snaps under center the last 4 years and has never read a defense or progressed through WRs to throw a pass...or he's one of the least NFL ready QB in the draft...that and he's 24 with back issues...meaning when he's ready to play he'll likely be 25 or 26 with back issues. Smith was a nice WR addition, Jones was great value as a UDFA, and Stacy and Marshall were awesome value for what we gave up.

...but its hard to give an A+ to a #6 pick that could have us in the same situation Clowney put the Texans in (always a nagging issue and shoulders that lead to long term issues we dont know about). We thought we didnt have to worry about Milliner's injury history and how has that turned out? Also, Petty is a hair younger from being Chris Weinke...

On paper, these picks are awesome...that's why there is an A. If we landed a Williams with zero shoulder issues (a DT that wont lift for scouts is a concern, he wouldn't lift weights at his pro day or the combine and said he had no reason to not lift weights...which means there is no reason he couldn't...unless he has something to hide from teams and scouts) and a quickly aging QB that needs to learn the basics on how to be a QB...like how to take a snap...There is a lot of work and risk before we know this is an A+....

Accentuate the negative

 

[LIJETFAN]

Accentuate the negative

Williams said in his press conference that he is full go now. The Jets have a great medical staff. If they were concerned about this shoulder at all, they wouldn't invest the 6th pick on him. Not this GM anyway. He's smarter than that.

Who knows why he didn't lift and honestly who cares. You can see on tape that the kid is incredibly strong, great functional strength. He tosses offensive linemen around on tape. And if it was because he wanted to protect his shoulder from injury, good for him. The doctors didn't say he couldn't lift, he chose not to lift. He did everything else. He decision not to lift has no bearing whatsoever on what kind of player he will be.

And I don't get the Clowney analogy 55. Who would you have taken in his place? He was considered one of the top 2 or 3 players in the draft, if not the top player. I don't understand criticizing this pick at all.

 

[NCgreen12]

If you add the Marshall and Stacy pickup (essentially both for a 5th rounder) I gave them a A-/B+. Wish they could have done more with the offensive line which I think is average at best (hoping AJ Cann was there in the third but he was gone a pick or two earlier). Next year I bet the Jets spend three picks upgrading the OL.

1) Can't argue the Leonard Williams pick unless you were absolutely in love with Kevin White. I could have lived with either. Williams however gives us options with Wilkerson (signing or trading). We may need it to move up in the draft next year to get our future QB so having Wilkerson as a trading chip will help.
2) I love Devin Smith even over DGB and Strong. He gives the Jets exactly what they need today and I love guys that can track the ball running at full speed (i.e., Jordy Nelson, DeSean Jackson),
3) Would have preferred Harold because of his upside (better athlete) but this kid Mauldin has a great motor and attitude. Sometimes that will mean more.
4) Don't know how anyone can complain with the Bryce Petty pick. So what he hasn't played in a pro system in college. You're not picking him for this year and the kid has talent. He has a big league arm, movement skills and a great attitude. Who knows if he will develop but it's worth a shot especially in the 4th round.

After that it's a crap shoot but getting Marshall and Stacy for a 5th was a really good move. Throw in the awesome off season and Mac has had a really good start. I think he and Bowles will see this season the need to fix the Oline and will address it next year and ultimately he still needs to figure out the most important part - who is the Jets QB.

 

[LIJETFAN]

Have to disagree with Hyatt too on the WRs. DGB is too high risk, even though probably more talented than Smith. But, Smith fits what the Jets want to do perfectly. From that standpoint it was an excellent pick. On Petty, it's just too soon to tell. He has physical skills to work with, that's easy to see. But who knows if he can adapt to the pro game. I think a 4th rounder was fair value. Not a steal but fair. I think the 3rd round would have been too high for him.

Like the Mauldin pick too - great effort, intense, high motor player. I think he's going to be a very solid pro. I like Harold too and probably a bit more then Mauldin, but I like Mauldin's intangibles. I bet the kid will bust his butt to be a good player. You want guys like that. The Jets haven't had a lot of those guys in recent years.

 

[LIJETFAN]

Wow, great minds think alike NcGreen12..

 

[Superman55]

Accentuate the negative

I accentuate what we call "risk." We cant all wear green and white glasses and pretend everything has no risk because they wear a Jets uniform.

I read the post below yours, "who cares if he didn't lift." Well, almost every prospect did but a handful, and the ones that didnt had injuries...except our player...who says he isnt hurt but says he cant bench press for you...I guess it is negative to ask why not? You weigh 300lbs but you're scared to bench press in front of people?

5 teams found that enough reason to go in another direction...we also ignored injury concerns with Milliner. Im not saying it makes it a bad pick, and if you want to wear your green and white dungarees and and howl at the moon with excitement, fine. Give it an A+. But we've been burned by this type of thing before...lets let the guy take an NFL snap before we put him in the hall of fame. I myself have already compared him to Reggie White and people think I dont like the pick...im just saying there is a risk with Williams that scared teams away...

Also, I like the explanation, "Williams said in an interview his shoulder isnt an issue." Huh, wonder if Milliner said the same thing after we drafted him. What player says "worry about my knee injury?" Saying there is no risk with the Williams pick is like saying there is no risk with the Todd Gurley pick.

the kid has an issue with his shoulders...he wont even lift weights in front of people...there is a risk, like it or not, and I still gave the pick an A.

Wear your green glasses and put him in the hall already if you want. Ill just let him take 1 NFL snap first before I crown him.

 

[sg3]

No you won't

You ll moan and groan and whimper about him no matter how good he is.

it's what you do

 

[Superman55]

No you won't

You ll moan and groan and whimper about him no matter how good he is.

it's what you do

But you read every word of everything I post. You're glued to me worse than a female (that's saying something). You just keep riding my jock. Its what you do...

 

[sg3]

But you read every word of everything I post. You're glued to me worse than a female (that's saying something). You just keep riding my jock. Its what you do...

Not really

Like pretty much everybody else, I find you tedious, laughable and unreadable and as of this stupid post, back on my ignore list where you belong