Is it talent or coaching?

gmf1369

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Robert Saleh hired and brought his guys mainly from San Francisco to build a coaching staff with an idea of how to structurally build this team... It is not talent that fits his game plan and we can prove that by the porous play these players are delivering each week actually falls on the coaching staff...

On offense the game plan was simple quick, decisive passing attack with off tackle runs to set up screens and eventually take deep shots... Problem is from the beginning of the season the offensive line were not capable of executing their assignments because they had a rookie quarterback whom thrived in college by moving the pocket... He has deep ball tendency with accuracy but at this level all the talent on the field are that 1% exceptional talent from the college ranks...

Moving the pocket in college is fine but at this level it is hard to sustain blocks with linemen that are more impact rather than on the move blockers... So after Zach Wilson got hurt, the real design of this offense was shown by all three quarterbacks Mike White, Josh Johnson, and Joe Flacco that a pocket presence is needed to command this offense...

Sustainability on offense is more so how to keep the momentum throughout the entire game rather only for a half... The Jets rookie offensive coordinator needs to be more heady in his game planning and play calling...

On the defensive side they came in with hopes that a well put veteran structure would allow the young core but between injuries and poor intermediate play from those actual veterans have hindered the success that this defensive game plan should of been... Jarrad Davis was a poor signing, a gamble but he has shown that he is incapable at this level to be a good run defender that his position requires to stack the middle of the field behind the defensive line... CJ Mosley lost weight and is more durable and has better game stamina but still is just a run defender who can not cover... Quincy Williams is a torpedo that is quicker than fast but needs to make sure he wrap tackles more consistently instead of trying to separate torso from legs with hard hits...

Come next year the real off season for this coaching staff to plug players in to fill the voids to help sustain the game plan that they wish to install will give the fans a better appreciation of what this coaching staff wants to employ here with the Jets...
 

Tinstar

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They feel all over themselves and picked the wrong guy and now they have to make it work. It will because the QB is talented and the offensive coordinator is also .
The defense is a different story . The secondary is young and learning on the job so the mistakes are to be expected. All the injuries didn’t help either. The linebackers are old and slow and miscast but the Dline is most disappointing. Maybe it’s the wide9 crap but these guys simply are never in position to stop the run .
Somewhere out there is a person who can actually make aFG or an xtra point . We lucked into Folks and we will do it again. Oh the pain of being a Jet fan
 

Greentilldeath

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I think Saleh is decent and will grow into being a good HC. I hated LaFluer early, but since he moved to the booth, the offense has been decent and will only improve with seasoning and more talent on offense . Ulbrich…. Well he he just shitty. I cant remember ATL ever having a decent defense, and this years D…. pathetic. Saleh will have to can Ulbrich after the season….. no choice
 

Gramoah

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IN...............EX...................PER...............I...................ENCE..................key players out with injury......................fans, including me, in too big of a rush for the team to meld and become consistently competitive.........................some players that are not cutting it and are not going to.................GROWING PAINS.
 

gmf1369

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IN...............EX...................PER...............I...................ENCE..................key players out with injury......................fans, including me, in too big of a rush for the team to meld and become consistently competitive.........................some players that are not cutting it and are not going to.................GROWING PAINS.
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gmf1369

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Robert Saleh is a passionate human being and as a head coach he utilizes his passion to install confidence in his players but at the same time he has to realize that some players no matter how much you coach up might not have the ability to execute said game plan...

this off season will be a trying one, because of the relationships he made he is going have to walk away from some to fix the missing links in all three phases of the ball...
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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I read that they didn't prepare for Minshew. Well thats just terrible coaching. Then again, I'm not sure what QB's they have actually prepared for.
 

gmf1369

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I read that they didn't prepare for Minshew. Well thats just terrible coaching. Then again, I'm not sure what QB's they have actually prepared for.
they prepared for the starting QB but Hurts would of ran through and around us... so that is horse shit excuse...
what are they going to say next week when Tim Tebow comes to town...
 

TonyFtLaud

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It's a combination of talent and coaching.
This season is about self scouting, evaluation of players on the roster and determining needs. Coaching staff is inexperienced and learning. The D not making any adjustments in season is leaving them exposed, but that's part of the "evaluation process " the staff has decided to stick with.
 

NewMFS62

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I still think their approach of drafting college safeties and trying to turn them into linebackers is flawed.
They aren't big enough to play the position and will continue to get pushed around by physical teams. And if they add the 20 pounds they need to play the position, they will lose the speed and quickness that made them attractive picks.
The defense is getting out-muscled in every game. And if they draft another 245 pound tweener for DE as their "Savior", I'll just say "I told you so" when he flops.

Later
 

gastineau

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Saleh and coaching needs to put it together next year. Offense schemes got better while Defense got worse. So many holes to fill next year and Must be done with Draft picks for big money player position a Free Agency for Vet lower paid positons. So I hope we Draft only the best Players on board while spending for vet good Center if out there and 1 more O Lineman. Draft big RB,TE in 2nd round and 2 pass rushing beast in 1st round. Next year Woody needs to prep to buy,spend and done right we can compete with Bills and Fins. Pats ? I doubt it because even if we get the team rebuilded or Coaches is our weakness for now. Only Coach Ive seen handle Pats was Rex Ryan. His Defenses confused Pats Offense and Rex on Offense only armed with Great RBs, WRs and below average QBs still won even in Pats house in playoffs. Just think if he had Zach throwing TDs behind Mangolds O Line and bad azz RBs.
 
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