He is the same size as Jon Vilma. The more I researched the Lee pick the more I like it. He is really fast and he doesn't shy away from contact. He is not a game changer year one, but a pretty important piece to overhauling the speed at LB.
He is the same size as Jon Vilma. The more I researched the Lee pick the more I like it. He is really fast and he doesn't shy away from contact. He is not a game changer year one, but a pretty important piece to overhauling the speed at LB.
Bowles wanted a Deone Buchanan type and he got bigger, faster version. Buchanan has been making so many plays for the Cards. This pick is growing on me.
Yeah he has been good but I would not say great. I am not sold on Lee but I don't watch college. I do trust BA & wanted speed at LB so I am happy on that.
As far as Gronk he is not superman.
When we drafted Vilma we were a base 4-3 team under Herm, so it was a good pick when we made it and he was promptly named DROY. When Mangini came in and switched to a base 3-4, Vilma's play suffered badly and soon he was shipped off to the Saints for a 4th RD Pick, where he once again excelled in the 4-3.
last night, he was a reach
today its the wrong fit for our scheme
tomorrow it will be ?
the ever shifting troll gripes
Do you not think TB knows what he is drafting??? Mangini came in with a guy who didn't fit. Lee was drafted by TB because he thinks he can use him in different ways. Vilma's short comings should not dictate what Lee's potential is.
Gronk has about a half-a-foot and 35 Pounds on Darron Lee. Its a physical mismatch for Gronk.
Cy would be so proud of you quoting Kiper! LOL
He has that same size advantage on almost every player in the league.
People here are complaining about his size, but you won't find many 6'4" 260-270lb LB's running a 4.43 40 time. Can't have both most of the time. And you can't teach speed.
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Great post. Nailed it.
Honest to God, thats the one sliver of hope I have for this pick, that although it seems like a bad scheme fit on the surface, Bowles has a plan that is outside the box, so its not really what it appears to be.
That said, I was a little put off by his reluctance to switch to a base 4-3 in his post draft press conference last year, after we drafted Leonard Williams and it was clear that we had four terrific DL's we need to get on the field simultaneously. He went to such an extreme to preserve his precious 3-4 that his solution was to move Sheldon Richardson to OLB. Really????
And now, despite Lee "seemingly" being a much better fit at 4-3 OLB and still having better personnel for the 4-3 overall, he would rather move this kid to ILB than change his base defense. I understand that Bowles is a terrific defensive coach, he forgot more about football than I will ever know, so I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and I DO, but normally the best coaches adapt to their personnel and I don't see much flexibility from Bowles in that regard. IMO switching to a base 4-3 after we drafted LW was a no brainer. Frankly I was shocked when Bowles quickly shot down the idea the night we drafted Williams. When we picked Williams that night, damn near all of us automatically assumed that signaled a switch to the 4-3, because we had four blue-chip D-linemen.
From what I'm seeing he will be playing the Deone Buchannon role for us. I've never been a fan of the 'tweener type, but Buchannon worked for Bowles on AZ. I have to assume they know what they are doing with this guy. Having oru big fatties up front will also be a huge help to him.
We're getting too caught up with size, IMO. Just watch the game tape. Lee blows people up and gets to the ball faster than anyone. Bowles was absolutley giddy in the war room talking on the phone. He got the player he wanted for this defense.
Ok lets take a look at a few things .
Buchannon plays inside now but started out as a dollar LB under TB so when some say Lee cannot plays inside it may not be true.
He (Bucannon) has added weight this year because some including me thought he might be overpowered at times. On the inside you need that weight. So from 210 to 222 at this point. The Jets need speed so it will be interesting to see what they do with Lees weight. Most guys from college need more muscle so his weight may go up some in that area. Also as he ages the weight may go up.
Good short read....
Deone Bucannon added weight to play in 2016
As far as Lee I have not seen him play in School so it could be a good pick? Will it be worth a one? Time will tell. I see him as a second or third rounder because of the time I think he will be playing on the field. Lets trust for now!
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Bingo.
I just don't understand all the drama about his size.
He's 21 YO. He will naturally gain weight. Here's some prototypical ILB'er from NFL.com
Ray Lewis: 6'1" 240
Sean Weatherspoon: 6'2" 240
Patrick Willis 6'1" 242
All a bit heavier then Lee, but not dramatic, and Lee will be in their weight area very shortly after a season in an NFL weight program.
A lot of drama about nothing. Lee will make the Jets D better. Personally I would have preferrd Spence, but I suspect Macc has a bit more knowledge of these players then I do
So what you think he was Andre The Giant
Bottom line is Bowles said in the presser... We have the big guys upfront.... the game is spread out and we need speed at LB and he is a 3 down player not a specialty guy who you hope develops to a 3 down backer....
Bowles got an ingredient for his defense that he wanted, he needed and combined with mauldin gives him the players on the field to fit his scheme.
Bowles got an ingredient for his defense that he wanted, he needed and combined with mauldin gives him the players on the field to fit his scheme.