Maccagnan made a curious comment about Bowles

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ESPN -- "He's going to be a very good head coach in this league."

Going to be?

That quote jumped out. Asked to assess the current Bowles, Maccagnan said simply, "I think Todd is going to be a very good head coach in this league and I think he's doing a good job right now."

His word choice was interesting. Maccagnan doesn't control Bowles' fate -- both men report to owner Woody Johnson -- but the GM's words certainly carry weight.
 

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ESPN -- "He's going to be a very good head coach in this league."

Going to be?

That quote jumped out. Asked to assess the current Bowles, Maccagnan said simply, "I think Todd is going to be a very good head coach in this league and I think he's doing a good job right now."

His word choice was interesting. Maccagnan doesn't control Bowles' fate -- both men report to owner Woody Johnson -- but the GM's words certainly carry weight.

I think you are reading into it to much... Heard those comments about Rex in years 2 and 3 as well... He ahsn't even coached a full 2 seasons yet... Semantics...
 

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I think you are reading into it to much... Heard those comments about Rex in years 2 and 3 as well... He ahsn't even coached a full 2 seasons yet... Semantics...

I agree with this. I'm not making excuses for Bowles but to my knowledge he has never been a head coach at any level. I'm sure that there are exceptions, but most assistant coaches take time to transition to all of the responsibilities of a HC. So, MMs comment may be reflective of the very fact that Bowles' growth as a HC is a process. Similar to the kind of patience that the Jets brain-trust is exhibiting with the two young QBs. It might also be a concession of sorts that the team is short on quality players.
 
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I think you are reading into it to much... Heard those comments about Rex in years 2 and 3 as well... He ahsn't even coached a full 2 seasons yet... Semantics...
I agree, I think mac meant he will be regarded as a good head coach and have a long career. Right now he's a second year hc on a shit team. We all know transitioning to the top spot is unlike the rest of the coaching world, it's unique. There are lots of lessons to learn.

Unless Bowles shows some improvement though,and I expect mac to see things in building we fans would never be aware of, I'd like to see Bowles coach 3 years. At that point, I'd like to lure Harbaugh away from Michigan, or norv turner after this season should mac be ready to move on.
I think Harbaugh has one year left at Michigan before he's ready to leave the school.

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I don't want to get into HC search discussion at this point, but Norv has proven to be an excellent OC and failure as a HC. Why go down that path?
 

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Mac must mean the he thinks Bowles is still learning.
It sure doesn't look like it to me.

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I think you are reading into it to much... Heard those comments about Rex in years 2 and 3 as well... He ahsn't even coached a full 2 seasons yet... Semantics...

This is all Rich Cimini, trying to drive up his reader quota...
 

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Mac must mean the he thinks Bowles is still learning.
It sure doesn't look like it to me.

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Revis is the big problem this year. Bowles has been on Revis side early on but Revis cost us the season. Bowles realizes this now but it is too late. It is mostly a rebuild at this point.
 

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Revis is the big problem this year. Bowles has been on Revis side early on but Revis cost us the season. Bowles realizes this now but it is too late. It is mostly a rebuild at this point.
Is it Revis? Because I don't think we have anyone to replace him with. That's the sad thing,Revis is terrible,but he's our best.

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http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/11/mike_maccagnan_believes_todd_bowles_is_going_to_be.html

FLORHAM PARK — It's hard to find someone that doesn't deserve blame for the Jets' dismal 2016 season.







Is Todd Bowles' job with Jets on the line?

The offense? Bad. The defense? Bad. The roster? Bad.

And the coaching? That may be the biggest difference from last year's 10-6 campaign, and this season's 3-7 start. Between decision-making blunders, and accountability errors from his players, Todd Bowles has resembled little of the guy some nominated for Coach of the Year in 2015.

With the fan base calling for his head, at least one inside One Jets Drive still has faith Bowles can get the job done.



"I think Todd is going to be a very good coach in this league," general manager Mike Maccagnan said at his midseason press conference. "He's doing a good job right now."

Good job may be a bit of a relative term. It's hard to find much of anything good about the Jets this year.

None of that is a good look, and much of the blame falls on Bowles. Off the field, as first reported by NJ Advance Media, two of the team's best players — Sheldon Richardson, Muhammad Wilkerson — are routinely late to meetings.

"We need to do better," Maccagnan said. "We need to do things going forward that will make us successful.

"The record isn't where we want it to be. We're doing everything in our power to improve that. Whether it's playing, coaching, scouting.

If the Jets were to make a coaching change after this season, the decision wouldn't be Maccagnan's. The way the Jets management is set up, Maccagnan and Bowles are on equal grounds, and both report to owner Woody Johnson.

Maccagnan is not Bowles' boss, nor is Bowles Maccagnan's. Bowles handles things on the field, and Maccagnan the 53-man roster.

Still, the GM's vote of confidence will undoubtedly reach Johnson's ears.

"We're dealing with stuff this season," Maccagnan said. "We knew this going in. We knew when we started, with where we wanted to get to, we'd face adversity along the way. [Bowles] is very consistent and focused. I think he has a very good pulse on the team and the locker room."

A pulse is one thing, but fans and owners want wins. If coaches and general managers don't show they can get that quickly, changes are routinely made. Since he took over, Maccagnan has said he's building the Jets for long-term success.

Is he confident he and Bowles will be around when things develop?

"I know Woody is very committed to building an organization that has the ability to be long-term successful," Maccagnan said. "That's something we've always talked about."
 
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This is so pathetic. Mac is a douchebag that is trying to insult the fans intelligence. If this idiot cannot see very clearly that Todd Bowles SUCKS as bad or worse than Rich Kotite, then I just assume FIRED right along with Todd Bowles.

Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder if Woody has managed to teach these two assholes not to shit on the floor. This article is pure STUPIDITY to the enth degree, anyone with 1st grade intelligence should be calling out Mac on this crock of shit...........
 

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This is so pathetic. Mac is a douchebag that is trying to insult the fans intelligence. If this idiot cannot see very clearly that Todd Bowles SUCKS as bad or worse than Rich Kotite, then I just assume FIRED right along with Todd Bowles.

Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder if Woody has managed to teach these two assholes not to shit on the floor. This article is pure STUPIDITY to the enth degree, anyone with 1st grade intelligence should be calling out Mac on this crock of shit...........
Who would you hire?

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Well what would Mac say he sucks? Then he makes his boss look like an idiot and most of us feel that way anyway :global (9):. So of course, he is going to try and spin it in a positive light but we all have eyes..and they do not lie.

No one is going to convince me Woody is a happy camper with the record and the way this team is playing... If he decides to fire Bowles then he should make the new HC report to the GM and let him hire him. If he decides to keep him for a third year then he SHOULD make him report to the GM and state for both that the team needs to improve in all areas, be "competitive" and improve during the year and I do not mean just players, I mean CS also. We'll see
 

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Well what would Mac say he sucks? Then he makes his boss look like an idiot and most of us feel that way anyway :global (9):. So of course, he is going to try and spin it in a positive light but we all have eyes..and they do not lie.

No one is going to convince me Woody is a happy camper with the record and the way this team is playing... If he decides to fire Bowles then he should make the new HC report to the GM and let him hire him. If he decides to keep him for a third year then he SHOULD make him report to the GM and state for both that the team needs to improve in all areas, be "competitive" and improve during the year and I do not mean just players, I mean CS also. We'll see
Good point. The fact that mac is not responsible for Bowles employment,he had no reason to"motivate" him via the media. If Woody asks him his opinion,he can tell him, otherwise his only job is to present a united front to the press.

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Who would you hire?

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MIKE WESTHOFF or another with Head Coaching experience that has won the SB in the past. There is no one more qualified when it comes to Assistants that is, than Mike Westhoff. He was a legend in Special Teams.........
 

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MIKE WESTHOFF or another with Head Coaching experience that has won the SB in the past. There is no one more qualified when it comes to Assistants that is, than Mike Westhoff. He was a legend in Special Teams.........
I was just listening to an opinion regarding Mike. Basically he is a legend, but with the current nfl rules, his plays are irrelevant under new rules. The person said that kickoffs in college are still similar abs that's why he is consulting colleges now.
But what makes him head coach worthy above anyone else?

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I was just listening to an opinion regarding Mike. Basically he is a legend, but with the current nfl rules, his plays are irrelevant under new rules. The person said that kickoffs in college are still similar abs that's why he is consulting colleges now.
But what makes him head coach worthy above anyone else?

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What makes him LESS qualified than anyone else??? Owners hire assistants based on winning and their belief that person has found some sort of unique niche in strategy.

Westhoff's winning track record could be debated, but the fact is Special Teams does not have a lot with the outcome of the game. In regards to strategy? I don't believe there's a person that could possibly be any more qualified. What you're saying is true, the NFL owners saw to it that Westhoff could no longer strategize as a ST coordinator and that's why he retired. However, he's made it known several times on SNY that he would do the HC thing if he were to be hired. No one was ever as genius coming up with unique strategies on kickoffs as Mike Westhoff. He also got ordinary everyday players to run through fire for him, he ELEVATED their game.......
 

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What makes him LESS qualified than anyone else??? Owners hire assistants based on winning and their belief that person has found some sort of unique niche in strategy.

Westhoff's winning track record could be debated, but the fact is Special Teams does not have a lot with the outcome of the game. In regards to strategy? I don't believe there's a person that could possibly be any more qualified. What you're saying is true, the NFL owners saw to it that Westhoff could no longer strategize as a ST coordinator and that's why he retired. However, he's made it known several times on SNY that he would do the HC thing if he were to be hired. No one was ever as genius coming up with unique strategies on kickoffs as Mike Westhoff. He also got ordinary everyday players to run through fire for him, he ELEVATED their game.......
He's never run an offense or defense though. And isn't he pretty old?

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He's never run an offense or defense though. And isn't he pretty old?

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He's coached TE's, DL, and OL among others. And quite frankly I think his age is irrelevant. I can only wish I will look as good as he does at his age. IMO, he's the very best candidate and a logical one. He knows the NY market and has experience coaching here for many years. He's also a very good talent evaluator. He's seemingly made many successes out of players that I never thought would go anywhere in this league. Todd Bowles does NOT have the kind of impressive background that Mike Westhoff does. Bowles should never have been hired in the first place. It's a crime that Westhoff hasn't been given a shot.......
 
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