Marshall takes swipe at Revis in Jets practice

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Iowa State DC on Geno Smith getting cold-cocked: 'Didn't surprise me'
Randy Peterson, rpeterson@dmreg.com 4:56 p.m. CDT August 12, 2015
Ikemefuna Enemkpali
(Photo: AP)
AMES, Ia. – So Wally, are you surprised that a teammate cold-cocked New York Jets quarterback Geno Smith in the jaw?

Pause.

"Didn't surprise me," Iowa State's defensive coordinator Wally Burnham said after practice Wednesday.

Burnham knows all about run-ins with the former West Virginia star, whose jaw was broken by teammate IK Enemkpali during a locker room confrontation Tuesday reportedly over a $600 airplane ticket.


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At halftime of the Iowa State-West Virginia game in 2012 at Jack Trice Stadium, Smith ran into Burnham as the teams headed toward their locker rooms.

"I was just walking," said Burnham, who was 71 in 2012. "He pushed me."

One of the first Cyclones on the scene was Wally's son, Shane, who coaches defensive tackles.

"We were holding for the West Virginia team to clear the field," Shane recalled Wednesday. "There was some extra-curricular activity after the last play of the half — Geno didn't appreciate something by somebody, and he took out his frustration on dad."

That didn't sit well with Shane, who did what every son would do.

"I reacted," Shane said. "Part of it is that it's your dad, and part of it is it's your Iowa State brother. It was family and football family for me. It was a double-whammy.

"He had some choice words for dad, and I might have had a few choice words in return."

Shane and Smith talked again on the field before the second half.

"We had a follow-up conversation," Shane said.

Was it nice?

"We continued the conversation," Shane said.

After the game, Cyclones linebacker Jake Knott tweeted:

"G. Smith trying to push over Coach W Burnham at half was the most classless thing I've seen. Esp. from a "leader" #GrowUp"

So after West Virginia won 31-24, did Smith apologize to Wally Burnham?

"You think so?" he responded.

That's a no.




Would you be more in love if i post a story about how smith's WV team mates were glad he was gone?

 

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There are other stories out there, from the time, that go into more detail. smith got into a screaming match with a DE at the end of the half.

When the DE got tired of smith's mouth, and approached him, smith ran away. Saw Wally walking in the tunnel with his back to him, looking down, smith ran up behind him full speed, and shoved him into the wall of the tunnel.

When confronted by the DC's 48 year old son, smith did what he does best. He ran away.

There's actually a bad video of it on the net. I'm afraid you will have to google it yourself. I've already done it about 10 times for genoites.

If this is the guy you like, cool. I'll pass on the punk

 

[Mainejet]

As I already stated, trying to compare what went down between Geno and IK and simple competitive scrums that happen on the field is the lamest attempt at making one's argument as anything I've ever seen. It's as bad as people screaming racist for saying Mike Vick was a shitty QB. The only HC to have embarrassing off the field altercations is Todd Bowles and this team still employs one of the shitheads that is at least 50% responsible for the incident happening in the 1st place. You are very clearly incorrect with your assertion that this suddenly now professional.

 

[gastineau]

Fighting in practice is good & bad. Bad-If a Player takes a cheap shot coming under guard jamming you in the face,hit from behind,any low hits, then yeah there will be a fight. Revis knows better to jam Marshall under his mask in the face. Trash talk is fine, but if you cant back it? Then shut it & dont cheap shot your team mate. Good is when 2 players going at it & its close usually & its rookie vs Vet & then tempers flare due to rookie working to earning respect. Once this happens ,its over.

 

[jetgreen13]

There are other stories out there, from the time, that go into more detail. smith got into a screaming match with a DE at the end of the half.

When the DE got tired of smith's mouth, and approached him, smith ran away. Saw Wally walking in the tunnel with his back to him, looking down, smith ran up behind him full speed, and shoved him into the wall of the tunnel.

When confronted by the DC's 48 year old son, smith did what he does best. He ran away.

There's actually a bad video of it on the net. I'm afraid you will have to google it yourself. I've already done it about 10 times for genoites.

If this is the guy you like, cool. I'll pass on the punk

we've all seen this movie many times before.. smith supporters try to paint the picture that most jets fans don't like smith just for the sake of it.. not based on the guy being a well documented creep..

then when documentation is provided, people generally seem to have pressing issues to deal with for the next few days/weeks.. or perhaps unforseen internet connection issues??

 

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Yes and IK had a previous history of punching an off duty cop, before he broke the starting QB's face. Wagging a finger in someone's face doesn't warrant getting your jaw blown up. Geno is nowhere near the thug that this animal is. You're sure going to great lengths to demonize Geno Smith.

We get it. You hate him. And your spin on his career both on and off the field is noted.

Nope no spin. Facts

The pictures of the leaders of the Jets greeting the bubble player who broke their starting QB's jaw, speaks volumes about who smith is. As I mentioned above ,the story, that wasn't denied, was that smith crossed the locker room in a threatening manor, while screaming at IK, is in fact an assault, which IK had every right to defend himself from.

"An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tort law."

The players immediate reaction clearly showed who they thought was at fault. NOBODY stood up for smith. Most of the team leaders stood up for IK.

So who's spinning. LOL

 

[Mainejet]

Geno is every smidgeon the creep that IK is. What amazes is how so many would defend the guy tooth and nail, when the fact is they do not have a leg to stand on.

 

[Bronx]

That's why its good fans don't make decisions. The coaches and management will make the call on Geno. He would be gone already if left up to most fans .


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[Mainejet]

Nope no spin. Facts

The pictures of the leaders of the Jets greeting the bubble player who broke their starting QB's jaw, speaks volumes about who smith is. As I mentioned above ,the story, that wasn't denied, was that smith crossed the locker room in a threatening manor, while screaming at IK, is in fact an assault, which IK had every right to defend himself from.

"An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tort law."

The players immediate reaction clearly showed who they thought was at fault. NOBODY stood up for smith. Most of the team leaders stood up for IK.

So who's spinning. LOL

This is an excellent post, great work florida green...my compliments and respect

 

[jetgreen13]

That's why its good fans don't make decisions. The coaches and management will make the call on Geno. He would be gone already if left up to most fans .


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& smith would have started at leased one game last season (after fitzpatrick ruptured his left thumb) if bowles had any trust left in him.....

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

This story is a huge, mountain out of a molehill, nothing burger.

Interesting when it happened, but it should have been old news by the next day.

 

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& smith would have started at leased one game last season (after fitzpatrick ruptured his left thumb) if bowles had any trust left in him.....

Not to mention, that this off season Bowles, or Macc, never wavered in saying If/when Fitz returned, he would be the immediate starter. And nothing that happened in practice would change that.

That's one of the reasons that I can't argue with Ham, that smith still might be traded. On the surface it seems illogical for a win now team, but IMO Bowles is counting the days till he can unload smith.

Petty's the only one that can make that happen.

 

[flgreen]

This story is a huge, mountain out of a molehill, nothing burger.

Interesting when it happened, but it should have been old news by the next day.

I agree.

It later came out that Marshall didn't even punch him, he tried to slap him, because Revis had slapped him earlier during a play, then challenged him to slap him back. Marshall blew his cool, and obliged him.

Both players said it was "just football" and moved on. Nothing to see here

 

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None of this, on either side, should be viewed based on what people think of Geno as a player. And yet that seems to be shaping almost everyone's views.

To me, it's this simple. Geno was in the wrong, both with the debts and with any other role he played in antagonizing IK. IK was also wrong, and by all accounts, more wrong in that his response was disproportionate. Both were wrong.

What bothers me is when I see Geno apologists claiming he did nothing wrong. What also bothers me is when I see Geno haters excusing IK and putting all the blame on Geno. Almost everyone is letting their views about Geno on the field shape how they view this situation, and it's wrong.

 

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So how do you describe a 21 YO man running up and attacking a 71 YO man from behind? Should WV expelled him for that?

I have no problem calling him out for that.

You know, there IS a gray area. Someone can actually dislike Geno and still think it's wrong for someone else to break his jaw, no matter what role Geno had in provoking or escalating the situation.

 

[jetgreen13]

None of this, on either side, should be viewed based on what people think of Geno as a player. And yet that seems to be shaping almost everyone's views.

To me, it's this simple. Geno was in the wrong, both with the debts and with any other role he played in antagonizing IK. IK was also wrong, and by all accounts, more wrong in that his response was disproportionate. Both were wrong.

What bothers me is when I see Geno apologists claiming he did nothing wrong. What also bothers me is when I see Geno haters excusing IK and putting all the blame on Geno. Almost everyone is letting their views about Geno on the field shape how they view this situation, and it's wrong.

no, that's factually incorrect.. in my view anyway..

a lot of jets fans dislike the guy because he's a well documented creep.....

 

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no, that's factually incorrect.. in my view anyway..

a lot of jets fans dislike the guy because he's a well documented creep.....

I dislike him to some degree, as well, for both on-field and off-field reasons. But even being a creep doesn't necessarily, in my opinion, justify a guy getting decked. You may disagree, and that's fine, but I think people are entitled to dislike jerks, not to punch them.

 

[Bronx]

None of this, on either side, should be viewed based on what people think of Geno as a player. And yet that seems to be shaping almost everyone's views.

To me, it's this simple. Geno was in the wrong, both with the debts and with any other role he played in antagonizing IK. IK was also wrong, and by all accounts, more wrong in that his response was disproportionate. Both were wrong.

What bothers me is when I see Geno apologists claiming he did nothing wrong. What also bothers me is when I see Geno haters excusing IK and putting all the blame on Geno. Almost everyone is letting their views about Geno on the field shape how they view this situation, and it's wrong.

I agree. Geno is still here and the coaches will have the final say come cut down day.


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[jetgreen13]

I dislike him to some degree, as well, for both on-field and off-field reasons. But even being a creep doesn't necessarily, in my opinion, justify a guy getting decked. You may disagree, and that's fine, but I think people are entitled to dislike jerks, not to punch them.

i'll say it again.. good, bad, right or wrong, if you beg for something, don't be surprised if our get it..

BTW, was smith "entitled" to run up an elderly man's back??

the elderly man's son didn't seem to think so.....

 

[SackExchange]

i'll say it again.. good, bad, right or wrong, if you beg for something, don't be surprised if our get it..

BTW, was smith "entitled" to run up an elderly man's back??

the elderly man's son didn't seem to think so.....

I don't understand the bolded part. I'm sorry.

And you will find my answer to your question about the altercation at WV earlier in this thread. Why do you seem to think that I'm some kind of Geno apologist? And why so antagonistic?

I remember this type of situation back in the old Scout, with some of our Chad debates. There were Chadites, and Chad-haters. If you ever said you had concerns about Chad's injuries, the Chadites would bash you for being a hater. If you ever said he was good when healthy, the Chad-haters would bash you for being an apologist.

That's exactly what is going on here. Since I think IK shouldn't have punched Geno in the jaw, suddenly according to you I support him starting a fight with a 71-year-old college coach? What the hell is the logic in that? When did I ever say Geno was right for doing that?

Seriously, if the world was as black and white as Jets boards make it out to be, life would be easy to understand.