Meet the other 2018 NFL Draft Jets Selections
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Other then the TE, these other picks appear to be suspect but at this point it don't even matter. The fact that they drafted Darnold, this makes our draft period. As long as Darnold pans out, he is our draft!!! Everyone will be glued to the TVs to see when he will play and what's going on with Darnold whether he is playing or not. Without Darnold is playing this year or for the first 8 games (whatever it maybe) we probably are a 5-11 team or 3-5 team until he gets in there. We may not be that much better year one with him (if he does play at all this year) but come year two, much improvement all around for him personally and the team as a whole.
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Sam Darnold expects to be opening day starter...
Todd Bowles on the record saying if Darnold checks all the requirements he has no qualms about starting a rookie...
I'll share with you guys what I have been told by someone who not only knows Nathan Shepherd but who's kids grew up and went to school with him. One of my best friends from Ajax, Ontario has been visiting down here for the week end. My friend was asking about the routine, procedures, pay scale and similar subjects that Nathan would be dealing with because he, my friend, personally isn't familiar with how things work with the draft, NFL, player contracts and so forth. I said why do you ask ? You won't believe his answer but here goes. He said because he is like family. He spent much of his youth in my house with my kids. They went to school together and the only thing that separates his family's house from mine is the driveway. My friend couldn't vouch for how good of a player he will become but he did vouch for his character and determination to be the best player possible. He said he is a good kid in every sense of the word and is convinced that he will work his butt off to that end. So will he make the roster ? I don't know. But I am sure that if he doesn't it won't be from lack of effort. Players of good character I like and support because that's what this team needs. Welcome to the Jets Nathan.
This is how I see it they needed a veteran NFL ready player who will spot start, to allow Sheperd gain experience and be able to work on his deficiencies, they did so by acquiring Henry Anderson from Indianapolis... Anderson is a depth guy with some starting experience and came real cheap for the 235th overall selection (7th Rd)... Now by chance that Sheperd comes along quicker than expected then Anderson will be a nice rotational guy...
(Assuming they don't sign a free agent like Jonathan Hankins or someone else)...
Chris Herndon along with 2nd year man Jordan Leggett look like the only locks at the Tight End position... Acquiring Clive Walford off of waivers, returning players Eric Tomlinson, Neal Sterling and claiming Bucky Hodges the Jets will have a full competition at this position... H Back Priority FA (Rookie) Dimitri Flowers also in the mix, but should make the roster as the starting FB...
Parry Nickerson will do everything he needs to, to make the roster even if it is going through veteran nickel corner Buster Skrine... Like the Tight End position the corner position will have a solid competition for who will earn the chance to make this roster.... We know this both Trumaine Johnson and Morris Claiborne are locks to make the active 53...
Foley Fatukasi seems like a long shot but he could take Deon Simon's roster spot... Not a traditional nose tackle but neither is Steve Mclendon...
Trenton Cannon's only way to make the roster is as a return specialist, otherwise he is likely to make the practice squad... JoJo Natson is gone, so is Jalin Marshall the only real competition still on the team for this role is WR Andre Roberts, Tre McBride and Lucky Whitehead... So he has a very good chance to make the cut...
(Assuming they don't sign a free agent like Jonathan Hankins or someone else)...
Chris Herndon along with 2nd year man Jordan Leggett look like the only locks at the Tight End position... Acquiring Clive Walford off of waivers, returning players Eric Tomlinson, Neal Sterling and claiming Bucky Hodges the Jets will have a full competition at this position... H Back Priority FA (Rookie) Dimitri Flowers also in the mix, but should make the roster as the starting FB...
Parry Nickerson will do everything he needs to, to make the roster even if it is going through veteran nickel corner Buster Skrine... Like the Tight End position the corner position will have a solid competition for who will earn the chance to make this roster.... We know this both Trumaine Johnson and Morris Claiborne are locks to make the active 53...
Foley Fatukasi seems like a long shot but he could take Deon Simon's roster spot... Not a traditional nose tackle but neither is Steve Mclendon...
Trenton Cannon's only way to make the roster is as a return specialist, otherwise he is likely to make the practice squad... JoJo Natson is gone, so is Jalin Marshall the only real competition still on the team for this role is WR Andre Roberts, Tre McBride and Lucky Whitehead... So he has a very good chance to make the cut...
Beautiful, that’s what I’m talking about! If he earns it and ready to deal with the pressure and spotlight then why not. I don’t want the Jets to rush the kid and I’m usually one for start him and let him learn through trial and error. This time I see it differently. Jets can’t mess this up!!! So don’t baby him and hold him back but don’t rush him either. If he earns it and he’s ready then roll with him day one. If not, he appears to be the type of kid that will need a few games, a year at max before he’s ready to go.
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I love all these plaers just for the mere fact that they were drafted in the same class group as Sam Darnold.
CAN ANY ONE HAVE EVEN EVER THOUGHT OF THAT??!!
#SUCK4SAM #TANK
Thank goodness the 2017 Jets didnt listen to anyone of those assholes who wanted us to Tank. Sam comes into a competitive and football first environemnt instead of trying to have a 20 year old create it!
CAN ANY ONE HAVE EVEN EVER THOUGHT OF THAT??!!
#SUCK4SAM #TANK
Thank goodness the 2017 Jets didnt listen to anyone of those assholes who wanted us to Tank. Sam comes into a competitive and football first environemnt instead of trying to have a 20 year old create it!
CBS Sports grade of the Jets draft shares my concern:
NEW YORK JETS | B+
Sam Darnold and Nathan Shepherd make up most of the positive weight here, and it keeps the Jets from feeling like they missed too much without those second-rounders. But they could have spent those picks on the offensive line, but instead, left this draft without any new blockers for their franchise quarterback. Still, that's the only glaring flaw in this class, as they got tons of athleticism and upside with their Day 3 picks. In the end, if Darnold is "the guy," that's enough to make the whole class a success, and we'll never remember who they might have gotten with those other picks.
Neglected the OL once again.
When you have something valuable, you have to try to protect it.
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Sam Darnold and Nathan Shepherd make up most of the positive weight here, and it keeps the Jets from feeling like they missed too much without those second-rounders. But they could have spent those picks on the offensive line, but instead, left this draft without any new blockers for their franchise quarterback. Still, that's the only glaring flaw in this class, as they got tons of athleticism and upside with their Day 3 picks. In the end, if Darnold is "the guy," that's enough to make the whole class a success, and we'll never remember who they might have gotten with those other picks.
Neglected the OL once again.
When you have something valuable, you have to try to protect it.
Later
The problem is, and a lot of people are either unaware of it or ignoring it, but this was an atrocious class for O-linemen, maybe the worst and thinnest I have ever seen, and thats not an exaggeration. Nelson was a beast, but the first OT didn't go until 9 and IMO even that was a big reach for McClinchey. After that you had, IMO, a few 2nd RD talents on the O-line being over-drafted in RD 1. Then you only had a few OL's going in RD 2, and all of them were over-drafted in my view as well, but of course we didn't even have the option of drafting any of them because we had no 2's ... and every OL taken after RD 2, IMO, was a project or wishful thinking.
The only real argument people can make was Orlando Brown over Nathan Shepherd in RD 3, but Brown was horrifyingly bad at the combines and pro day, whereas Shepherd looked like a monster and was one of the most impressive small school studs in this entire draft.
The D-line, OTOH, was absolutely loaded with talent this year, so I can't blame the Jets for ignoring the OL's and drafting two DL's, then trading for one too.
I'm not saying you are wrong about the need to upgrade the O-line, unfortunately this just wasn't the draft class for it, so we were better off filling other needs.
Hopefully next years class is much stronger on the O-line, and we still have a ton of cap space to sign the best FA OL's too, especially with a bunch of one year contracts coming off the books.
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Guessing I’m one of those assholes your talking about and that’s fine with me, if that’s the case. Let’s not get this twisted here, Sam fell to us but he feel to us at #3, which we had to trade up to get there. If we were still at #6, I doubt very seriously he would have still been there. Yes it seems we could have gotten Rosen which I was all in on him but the jury is out more on Rosen then Darnold. So if your saying or thinking Darnold would have been there at #6, I get your argument otherwise your argument doesn’t make sense. We gave up three second round picks for Darnold. Which ofcourse will all be worth it if Darnold is that guy but that is still three potential excellent players we still could have had if their record was worse. With a worse record, we could have had Darnold and those three players. Well two for this year and one for next year. So imagine having Guice and a much better dline men, TE or CB then what we did draft or an excellent oline men that could truly help. Let me also clear something up, I wanted the Jets to play Hackenberg or Petty to see what they had in them. I didn’t want them to just throw games and intentionally lose. If they won with Hackenberg or Petty then great, if they lost with them then so what, it’s not like they were winning with McCown anyway. 5-11 remember, like that was really winning!!!
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I didn’t think our o-line was that bad last season. It was recently revealed that Winters was playing hurt most of the year, and he’s now 100%. Shell has another year of seasoning, and Beachum and Carpenter are decent players. We also got two new centers, one of whom is being paid like a legit starter. No more Wesley Johnson.
It’s not the 2009 Jets o-line, but it’s not exactly garbage either.
Btw, thanks GMF for those player profiles. Solid work as usual.
LOLz i bet he does!! i got some "requirements" that might hold water with bowles..
QB picked at 3..
QB picked at 3 cost 3 2nd rounders to get..
woody's brother was involved in the process this time..
as far as no having qualms about starting a rookie, i won't even go there, there's no longer any point.. if bowles doesn't play the kid when he's is legitimately ready, he'll be fired during the season or on black monday..
if under bowles' watch, the kid doesn't look like at least the 3rd pick in the draft (OTAs/training camp/preseason) bowles gets fired on black monday..
that might sound harsh to folks who are fans of the guy..
well, so sad so bad i guess..
I don't give a shit that he is the Number 3 overall pick he at this point in time is NOT ready to start anything...
I don't give a shit what Todd Bowles, Chris Johnson or Mike Maccagnan says, until O.C./Q.B. Jeremy Bates says he is fixed his deficiencies then I will be on board for him to start the season...
I said this before the draft Sam Darnold has the highest ceiling but may need a full season to sit and fix his bad habits and as of right now that is how I see it and probably how Bates does as well...
BTW I know that I was answering someone, but lets get back on the topic subject and continue this convo in it's own thread, thank you...
back on topic..
how many, if any of these kids do you see getting a 2nd contract in the league??
& yes, by all means, lets continue our conversation about what you don't give a shit about in another thread..
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the first three of five have great shot at garnering a second contract...
a defensive tackle with athleticism off the charts as long as he continue his development at this level... yes i know he is an older prospect but he may have what it takes...
a tight end like Herndon can develop into a number one option which would definitely garner not one but two additional contracts, will he who knows...
a nickel corner will always get a shot after his rookie deal, will it be with us that all depends on if we are still a 3-4 defense in need of a nickel corner...
Herndon has exciting athletic ability, but there is still plenty of room for improvement same can be said for last year's selection Jordan Leggett... But between these two there is optimism for this position...
If he turns into the franchise QB that we coveted for so long, those 2nd round picks wont mean anything.
Also, the whole SUCK for Sam campaign was ludicrous from the get go. That would have meant that being there at 1st overall, we had to be the worst team in the NFL. Sam comes into an environment that wants to excel and has been in almost all the games in '17. Yes, we were 5-11, but we easily could have been 9-7 or 10-6 least year. They weren’t really out of it until week 14 Broncos. They gave us a season (week 13 chiefs win was fun and got us to 5-7) AND still got darnold w/out mortgaging future.
I'd rather trade all those picks to reach 3rd overall to select Sam, as how the Jets did and allowed the 2017 grow as we filtered out the players that were all "me" players through Macagnans process.
I'am loving the direction we're headed.
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