Meet the other 2018 NFL Draft Jets Selections

[TonyFtLaud]

Really liked the Hendron pick in round 4. The kid can run block and is excellent in pass protection too, has good hands, can split out or play on the line. Shepard was a great pick in round 3, if not for the broken hand at the senior bowl he would have gone in the early second round. He was rising that fast. In the 3 days he practiced before the injury, no one could block him, he won every one on one drill and even had impressive plays in team drills when double teamed by this year's top O line prospects.
Parry has a ton of speed and could end up replacing Skrine in the slot before long.
Overall, I like the selections and the late round picks all have some upside.
Cannon is a very good return man, but will the league even have kicks next season?
The entire draft, the future of the FO and Coaching staff ultimately rest on Darnold's shoulders. If Darnold turns out to be a FQB, the compliment of picks will be a bonus if successful and forgotten if the fail. If Darnold busts, the rest of the class could go on to be pro bowl caliper players and this draft would be a failure.

 

[jets82]

If he turns into the franchise QB that we coveted for so long, those 2nd round picks wont mean anything.

Also, the whole SUCK for Sam campaign was ludicrous from the get go. That would have meant that being there at 1st overall, we had to be the worst team in the NFL. Sam comes into an environment that wants to excel and has been in almost all the games in '17. Yes, we were 5-11, but we easily could have been 9-7 or 10-6 least year. They weren’t really out of it until week 14 Broncos. They gave us a season (week 13 chiefs win was fun and got us to 5-7) AND still got darnold w/out mortgaging future.

I'd rather trade all those picks to reach 3rd overall to select Sam, as how the Jets did and allowed the 2017 grow as we filtered out the players that were all "me" players through Macagnans process.


I'am loving the direction we're headed.

Not arguing any of your points and I agree. However; my thought process and only speaking for myself was to play the young QBs last year (also trying to win all the games) to see what they had to offer. I never wanted them to throw games or intentionally lose. I just wanted them to try and win with Petty or Hackenberg (especially Hackenberg). I figured with a 5-11 record either Hackenberg or Petty or both combined could of gotten us to the same damn record, and if not then that shows how bad they were/are. With a worse record playing the other two QBs, the Jets could of gotten Darnold and kept those picks. McCown had a decent to very good season for us but it didn’t amount to any wins. Not any worth talking about anyway. Now if you want to say that McCown playing helped the rest of the team develop (regardless or their record) and get ready to win with Darnold then I’ll give you that. I’m guessing if Hack or Petty we’re playing the entire year then maybe the rest of the players wouldn’t have developed as well. All in all, ofcourse if Darnold turns out to be our franchise, 15 plus year SB(s) winning, HOF guy then those three second rounders don’t matter. I won’t argue that also and I said that in my last post to you. Only time will tell!!!

 

[McJet]

Guessing I’m one of those assholes your talking about and that’s fine with me, if that’s the case. Let’s not get this twisted here, Sam fell to us but he feel to us at #3, which we had to trade up to get there. If we were still at #6, I doubt very seriously he would have still been there. Yes it seems we could have gotten Rosen which I was all in on him but the jury is out more on Rosen then Darnold. So if your saying or thinking Darnold would have been there at #6, I get your argument otherwise your argument doesn’t make sense. We gave up three second round picks for Darnold. Which ofcourse will all be worth it if Darnold is that guy but that is still three potential excellent players we still could have had if their record was worse. With a worse record, we could have had Darnold and those three players. Well two for this year and one for next year. So imagine having Guice and a much better dline men, TE or CB then what we did draft or an excellent oline men that could truly help. Let me also clear something up, I wanted the Jets to play Hackenberg or Petty to see what they had in them. I didn’t want them to just throw games and intentionally lose. If they won with Hackenberg or Petty then great, if they lost with them then so what, it’s not like they were winning with McCown anyway. 5-11 remember, like that was really winning!!!

I'm one as well. I wanted the Jets to be competitive in every game, which they were for the most part. That OT win vs Jacksonville hurt, that was a good game against a very good team. An OT loss there would be 4-12. Then a last chance collapse by the Chiefs and the Jets win against another quality team, but a loss there gets you to 3-13. I believe we had the weaker strength of schedule to the Colts and would've obtained the 3rd pick. The Jets being competitive and losing just those two close contests would've saved some serious draft capitol and would've helped bolster this team even more.
Not trying to cry over spilt milk, but even at the time of those wins, they were bitter sweet to me. I knew at the time it would end up costing the Jets in the long haul.
So, enter this year. Wait until you feel Darnold is ready, if Darnold is geting into the game that means the current starter is not playing well and the Jets probably have a losing record. Then Darnold is learning his craft in real games and hopefully doing a great job, this is best case scenario and the Jets will start to wins some games. The Jets will probably end up being 5-11 or 6-12.
Hopefully a few QB's come out in next years draft and the Jets will be sitting in range of one of the QB's and be able to get a haullike the Colts did this year.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

Not arguing any of your points and I agree. However; my thought process and only speaking for myself was to play the young QBs last year (also trying to win all the games) to see what they had to offer. I never wanted them to throw games or intentionally lose. I just wanted them to try and win with Petty or Hackenberg (especially Hackenberg). I figured with a 5-11 record either Hackenberg or Petty or both combined could of gotten us to the same damn record, and if not then that shows how bad they were/are. With a worse record playing the other two QBs, the Jets could of gotten Darnold and kept those picks. McCown had a decent to very good season for us but it didn’t amount to any wins. Not any worth talking about anyway. Now if you want to say that McCown playing helped the rest of the team develop (regardless or their record) and get ready to win with Darnold then I’ll give you that. I’m guessing if Hack or Petty we’re playing the entire year then maybe the rest of the players wouldn’t have developed as well. All in all, ofcourse if Darnold turns out to be our franchise, 15 plus year SB(s) winning, HOF guy then those three second rounders don’t matter. I won’t argue that also and I said that in my last post to you. Only time will tell!!!

I'am 100% with you. I wanted Bowles to play Hackenberg last season once we were out of it and Petty wasnt progressing.
Though to play devils advocate, Bowles was coaching to promote the same culture he's been growing since he and Mac got here: "Play the best player thatdeserves to play". They both are in unicent in the fact that they arent going to hand the starting role just to see what they have in a position as they see the individual play in practice.

Keep in mind, Bowles coached a hell of a year in '17. Sure 5-11 depicts a losing season, but in the mist of all the naysayers before and during the season, he still had the team playing hard tooth and nail allowing this locker room to intake all the hard ache and continue to play for each other. As much as i didnt like some of Todds views, he definitely makes his players respect him.

 

[jets82]

I'am 100% with you. I wanted Bowles to play Hackenberg last season once we were out of it and Petty wasnt progressing.
Though to play devils advocate, Bowles was coaching to promote the same culture he's been growing since he and Mac got here: "Play the best player thatdeserves to play". They both are in unicent in the fact that they arent going to hand the starting role just to see what they have in a position as they see the individual play in practice.

Keep in mind, Bowles coached a hell of a year in '17. Sure 5-11 depicts a losing season, but in the mist of all the naysayers before and during the season, he still had the team playing hard tooth and nail allowing this locker room to intake all the hard ache and continue to play for each other. As much as i didnt like some of Todds views, he definitely makes his players respect him.

I'm with you and that is why I won't argue with the decisions TB makes this year at the QB or any other spot. I HATED the fact he didn't play Hack last year. Not because I thought Hack was the answer but I thought he would play OK enough to give them what McCown or better yet, what Petty gave them. Yes people will argue that McCown had a great year last year but it still did not amount to playoff contending wins. That is why I wanted Hack to play after Petty flopped or even before really because we were losing anyway so what did it matter? Obviously, I had the wrong frame of mind and TB know what he had and what he was dealing with. I still wanted the Jets to play hard but if they were going to lose no matter what, you might as well lose with your younger players to see if there was any promise in them.

TB choice not to do that and the team played hard for him all year long and that is a credit to him. When they could have truly just gave up on him, tanked and cost him his coaching job. Obviously TB knows football more than we ever will and he obviously knows the team and QB situation more than we ever will. TB obviously saw that Hack not only didn't deserve to be playing but not even to be dressed until the last 2-3 games I believe. TB and the rest of the CS is building a winning, earning it and no nonsense type of mentality and shaping it for Darnold to play with winners whenever he is ready to go. So I will be patient in hopes that he sees time this year. If not, then next year he should be ready to go or I will start to question then what's going on! Darnold just seems to be the type of player that it won't take long at all to be ready to go.

 

[jets82]

I'm one as well. I wanted the Jets to be competitive in every game, which they were for the most part. That OT win vs Jacksonville hurt, that was a good game against a very good team. An OT loss there would be 4-12. Then a last chance collapse by the Chiefs and the Jets win against another quality team, but a loss there gets you to 3-13. I believe we had the weaker strength of schedule to the Colts and would've obtained the 3rd pick. The Jets being competitive and losing just those two close contests would've saved some serious draft capitol and would've helped bolster this team even more.
Not trying to cry over spilt milk, but even at the time of those wins, they were bitter sweet to me. I knew at the time it would end up costing the Jets in the long haul.
So, enter this year. Wait until you feel Darnold is ready, if Darnold is getting into the game that means the current starter is not playing well and the Jets probably have a losing record. Then Darnold is learning his craft in real games and hopefully doing a great job, this is best case scenario and the Jets will start to wins some games. The Jets will probably end up being 5-11 or 6-12.
Hopefully a few QB's come out in next years draft and the Jets will be sitting in range of one of the QB's and be able to get a haul like the Colts did this year.

Definitely agree on all points here! Jets probably won't be that great a team this year anyway. Unless of course they stay totally healthy all year, players play better then expected and Darnold somehow is ready to go from day one and pays better then average to help this team to a magical playoff type of situation. Other then that, the team is probably looking at another 5-11/6-10 type of season. This will put us in position to bargain that 5th to 7th first round draft pick to a team like the Saints, Chargers or Giants who have to move up to get their future franchise QB. I couldn't even watch the games last season just being so frustrated with the fact they weren't playing the younger QBs, not winning enough to be playoff contenders but not losing enough to get that top three pick. They did win atleast two games, the Chiefs and Jaquars games in particular that killed us in the drafting aspect for this year but it all worked out in the end anyway. We got our future franchise QB and we gave up alot to get him but not a Ricky Williams Saints or Hersey Walker Cowboys type of draft load. So your right, hopefully next year we can make it up by trading back and recoup what we lost in draft capital this year.

 

[McJet]

In regards to the draft compensation to the Colts, when the deal was done and the GM for the Colts tweeted "pleasure doing business with you."I felt it as it was tongue and cheek and he was rubbing it in, for getting 3 #2 picks.
In retrospec, the Jets got a bargain, in my opinion. What would've been the price tag at the time the #3 pick was on the clock with Darnold still available.
You always hear about the draft chart going out the window when it comes to a possible FQB.
Next year, when the Jets are drafting in the first round, behind the Colts because A. Lucks shoulder just isn't healing correctly. I'm going to be saying, "it was a pleasure doing business with you."