Mel Kiper's first mock draft of 2016

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Sorry that I don't have the list but I'm figuring someone will update, if I dont do it myself. Kiper has the Jets picking the all world LB from Notre Dame that tore his ACL/MCL in the bowl game. According to Mike Golic of the ESPN Mike and Mike Show, this kid would have been a top ten or top five pick, if not for his injury. If this is the case and he comes back 100%, this would be a steal.
 
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Hope your wrong and he does fall to us. I'm not a college football guy and never saw him play but it seems like he will be exactly what we need.
 
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hobson54 said:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/14551791/mel-kiper-releases-first-mock-draft-2016-nfl

wow, if jaylon smith fell to 20, that would be a huge coup (and this is coming from a ND hater). but imo, there's no way he falls that far, torn ACL notwithstanding.
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This remains to be seen. For a speed rusher like Smith an ACL is serious business. He probably won't be able to run before the draft having been hurt in the Fiesta Bowl. Nothing will get a GM fired quicker then taking a player top ten, who it turns out can't run. There are also some other options at edge rusher available. This will be fun to watch on draft night. Getting Smith at 20, if he comes back 100% would be a major coupe.
 
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BTW There is another injured OLB off surgery who would be a steal for the Jets at 20, and could happen. Myles Jack
 
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This remains to be seen. For a speed rusher like Smith an ACL is serious business. He probably won't be able to run before the draft having been hurt in the Fiesta Bowl. Nothing will get a GM fired quicker then taking a player top ten, who it turns out can't run. There are also some other options at edge rusher available. This will be fun to watch on draft night. Getting Smith at 20, if he comes back 100% would be a major coupe.
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if todd gurley (who plays the much less desired RB position) can go top 10 coming off a blown ACL, then the guy many have as a top 3 overall player (pre-injury) will very unlikely last until the 20th pick
 
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hobson54 said:
if todd gurley (who plays the much less desired RB position) can go top 10 coming off a blown ACL, then the guy many have as a top 3 overall player (pre-injury) will very unlikely last until the 20th pick
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Your point is well taken on Gurley. And yes it only takes one GM to select a guy early. Absolutely no guarantee Gurley will fall. It also takes a lot of balls for a GM to pull the trigger on a speed player who blew his knee up around Jan 1st . Gurley was injured early Nov.

Never said he WOULD fall to 20, but rather "This remains to be seen" and "This will be fun to watch on draft night".

He certainly COULD fall to 20
 
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I probably read over 1,000 mock drafts last season, (Yes I'm a glutton for punishment, and bored during basketball season) i can't recall a single draft showing Williams falling to the Jets.

So there's that
 
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Mel Kiper's updated mock draft: Jets pick Notre Dame LB Jaylon Smith
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Rich Cimini
ESPN Staff Writer

Projecting the 20th overall pick is hard enough the week of the draft, let alone in mid-January, so take this for what it's worth -- an educated guess. In his updated mock, our man Mel Kiper Jr. has the New York Jets selecting Notre Dame outside linebacker Jaylon Smith.

It makes sense from a need standpoint. The Jets were hurting so much they used 294-pound lineman Sheldon Richardson at outside linebacker for the final month of the season. You probably can pencil Lorenzo Mauldin into one spot for 2016, but the other outside position is wide open, assuming Calvin Pace (free agent) doesn't return.

Picking Smith would be controversial because of his health. He underwent knee surgery Jan. 7 to repair the ACL and LCL, a pretty big deal. Presumably, he won't be ready for training camp and, based on the timeline for others with similar injuries, he'd probably miss a portion of the season.

Todd Gurley's successful rookie season with the St. Louis Rams will help Smith's stock, but Gurley had about a six-week head start on his ACL rehab. He still missed the first two games, by the way. It'll be a fascinating story as we get closer to the draft because Smith is the complete package from a talent standpoint. He was projected as a top-5 pick before the injury.

The team that drafts Smith will have to be patient and willing to accept some risk. Could the Jets be that team?
 
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Awful Pick

Not only is he coming off a blown out knee, he's also not a 3-4 RUSH OLB, he's a 4-3 OLB.

He had one sack this year and 3.5 sacks in his whole career at ND.

Simply put, he's not a pass rusher at all, much less an elite pass rusher.
 
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The Jets will try to get faster. I could see the first round pick on OLB or RB, maybe even WR. The only caveat to this is if a blue chip OL that they like a lot falls to them at 20.
 
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Parcells123 said:
The Jets will try to get faster. I could see the first round pick on OLB or RB, maybe even WR. The only caveat to this is if a blue chip OL that they like a lot falls to them at 20.
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i'm thinking picking the best RB left on the board at 20 might be a good play..

as in, it's deep enough in the first round to take a back if you believe he's special.. if mac & gailey love a RB that say they didn't see being there at 20, i would be excited about the pick..

i'm not a college football guy so i'll defer to folks here who are.. what backs (if any) would you guys consider talking at 20??
 
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We need young studs on the OL. Carpenter LG is solid and D'Brick and Mangold are getting older. If you don't have an OL that can open up the holes for a RB, why waste a first on a RB. Besides our right side stunk. We also for the longest time needed a rushing OLB. Best player available. Please don't let it be a DL!
 
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AFA2017 said:
We need young studs on the OL. Carpenter LG is solid and D'Brick and Mangold are getting older. If you don't have an OL that can open up the holes for a RB, why waste a first on a RB. Besides our right side stunk. We also for the longest time needed a rushing OLB. Best player available. Please don't let it be a DL!
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You might be in luck. OT is one of the deeper positions in the draft. Giacomini was awful last season. Was Ranked by PFF as one of the worst OT's in the league. Also saves $4,000,000 against the cap. He needs to go.

D'Bricks back up who we haven't seen in actual games because of D'Bricks 10,000+ straight snaps, from what we've seen in pre season is a JAG. Decent back up, don't see him replacing Brick any time in the near future. Winters actually played acceptable at RG last season. Perhaps there is hope for him.

Don't give up on some of the younger players currently on the roster just yet. The Jets seem to be fairly high on some of them. Qvale is a candidate for RT, or RG. The Jets gave him every opportunity in camp to win both the RT and RG spots. He would play real well, then have a blow up play. Jets protected him and kept him on the 53. Think he might have a genuine chance to take Breno's job.

Jets seem to have hope for Dozier. IMO this will be his make or break off season. Hope he makes it, got to love the nick name "Bull" Dozier.

Jarvis Harrison is another guy with legitimate upside at G. Guy is a monster. A lot of sites had him listed at a 2-3rd round talent. Rap on him was he didn't love football, and wanted to play basketball. Maybe the guy will realize that there aren't to many 6'4" 340 # NBA players. and get a fire lit in his butt. He has the talent, he needs to get to work. Maybe not.

With that said, I do believe that Macc will go BAP. I won't be unhappy if he is a OL. The downside is DL is also one of the deeper positions in the draft with a lot of potential 1st rounders. So there's that.
 
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If a QB like Connor Cook falls to 20th pick, does MM pull the trigger? Cook seems to be a guy the scouts used to like a lot more than they do now, what happened other than the late injury? I have heard some rumblings about locker room presence, lack of leadership, etc. (sounds like some QB we know?), but the skills are there. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
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Old#15 said:
If a QB like Connor Cook falls to 20th pick, does MM pull the trigger? Cook seems to be a guy the scouts used to like a lot more than they do now, what happened other than the late injury? I have heard some rumblings about locker room presence, lack of leadership, etc. (sounds like some QB we know?), but the skills are there. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Yeah Cook has some real questions about his locker room persona. Had to apologize to Archie Griffin. Thought it was much ado about nothing. As far as the comparison to smith goes, in fairness to Cook to my knowledge he has never attacked a 70 YO man from behind.

His Cotton Bowl performance was far from 1st round quality. 19-39 216 yards, 0 TD's and 2 interceptions. Personally I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd round. Has some mechanical problems with his feet and throwing motion

There will be QB's taken in this draft top 10. IMO that's only because this is a horrible QB draft. I honestly don't think there is a QB in this draft that has a higher upside then Petty. I wouldn't touch a QB 1st round of this draft.

Of course Macc may disagree with me. :)
 
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AFA2017 said:
We need young studs on the OL. Carpenter LG is solid and D'Brick and Mangold are getting older. If you don't have an OL that can open up the holes for a RB, why waste a first on a RB. Besides our right side stunk. We also for the longest time needed a rushing OLB. Best player available. Please don't let it be a DL!
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lol...i think i may join you in the mob if they take another d-lineman in the 1st

i'm never a fan of using a 1st on RB, at least these days. the positional value just isn't there at that point of the draft, especially given how many mid-to-late round and even undrafted RBs prove to be very good nfl backs.

i'm always a believe in BPA, but all other things being equal, i'd want o-line first and then OLB
 
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