Mock Trade Alert: Jets, Bears, Mo to acquire Jared Goff?

[gmf1369]

The New York Jets just sparked speculation about a possible draft day trade that involves the Bears No. 11 selection if quarterback Jared Goff falls to the Chicago's pick come draft day... The speculation is from the private workout the Jets have set up to workout and interview closely with the California Bear... It also comes in an intriguing moment in time where the team seems to be at wits end with their veteran free agent who is seeking a ridiculous compensation from a successful failure of a season...

The Jets have already entertained Penn State's Christian Hackenberg and Memphis' Paxton Lynch and both did enough but it seems the Jets weren't blown away, that is one reason why they are looking at Goff... Now there has been speculation that the Jets could be inline to trade Muhammad Wilkerson to the Bears who not only have a need but have the cap dollars to offer Mo the contract he is seeking...

Now I doubt that the Jets are going to get the kitchen sink type trade for Mo, but what will it take to make this deal go down... Do the Jets trade Mo for the Bears No.11, or can they get one or two mid round/late picks or will the Jets have to trade the No.20 for the No.11 while getting a 2017 1st as compensation?

Info Fact: The Jets sent two scouts to the Cal campus last August to watch Goff in a preseason practice.

So to say they are interested is to say the least, being they monitored him all season long as potential franchise candidate... Also by trading Wilkerson they would free up $15.7 Million for the 2016 season and then could sign Fitzpatrick while also trade/release Geno Smith... There is so many implications if this happens

 

[butterscotch]

The New York Jets just sparked speculation about a possible draft day trade that involves the Bears No. 11 selection if quarterback Jared Goff falls to the Chicago's pick come draft day... The speculation is from the private workout the Jets have set up to workout and interview closely with the California Bear... It also comes in an intriguing moment in time where the team seems to be at wits end with their veteran free agent who is seeking a ridiculous compensation from a successful failure of a season...

The Jets have already entertained Penn State's Christian Hackenberg and Memphis' Paxton Lynch and both did enough but it seems the Jets weren't blown away, that is one reason why they are looking at Goff... Now there has been speculation that the Jets could be inline to trade Muhammad Wilkerson to the Bears who not only have a need but have the cap dollars to offer Mo the contract he is seeking...

Now I doubt that the Jets are going to get the kitchen sink type trade for Mo, but what will it take to make this deal go down... Do the Jets trade Mo for the Bears No.11, or can they get one or two mid round/late picks or will the Jets have to trade the No.20 for the No.11 while getting a 2017 1st as compensation?

Info Fact: The Jets sent two scouts to the Cal campus last August to watch Goff in a preseason practice.

So to say they are interested is to say the least, being they monitored him all season long as potential franchise candidate... Also by trading Wilkerson they would free up $15.7 Million for the 2016 season and then could sign Fitzpatrick while also trade/release Geno Smith... There is so many implications if this happens

I am sure everyone here thinks I am against big mac but I am not. What I want to see is the stuff from above......I am not saying that exactly but this is the type of thinking that separates the men from the boys. I think he could be that type of GM but I got to see it first. I will be the first to kiss him on both cheeks if he does something like this.

 

[Pattycakes]

Is Goff worth this kind of crazy maneuvering? No one seems to be really blown away with him or any of the QB's in this year's draft. I remember last year so much more hype around Mariota and Winston.

If i'm wrong, excuse my ignorance. I'm not a college football guy.

 

[Bigmoe]

I see it more as pandering to get Fitz signed.

 

[gmf1369]

Is Goff worth this kind of crazy maneuvering? No one seems to be really blown away with him or any of the QB's in this year's draft. I remember last year so much more hype around Mariota and Winston.

If i'm wrong, excuse my ignorance. I'm not a college football guy.

To be honest until recently I didn't believe Goff or Wentz could be on the board past No. 8 pick but was aware about Chicago's interest in Wilkerson... As I don't see Wentz as the quarterback most think he could become, Goff has already proven his understanding and quick decision making to become a day one starter for many teams around the league... He honestly would be a perfect pick up for a Chan Gailey offense that predicates quick decision making while under center...

And yes there was more hype around Mariota and Winston last year because of the person Mariota compared to the football talent of Winston... Mariota more dynamic with his athleticism, but looking at quarterbacks every year the closer we get to the draft the more hype will grow, to build drama for teams in need to draft up...

 

[flgreen]

Is Goff worth this kind of crazy maneuvering? No one seems to be really blown away with him or any of the QB's in this year's draft. I remember last year so much more hype around Mariota and Winston.

If i'm wrong, excuse my ignorance. I'm not a college football guy.

NO!

Macc's just talking to the kid in case something goes weird, like with smith, who at one time was supposed to be top 5, and Goff starts sliding.

Doubt it will happen.

Unless I've really mispegged Macc as a good GM, he won't do something crazy like go to the top of the draft to get Goff.

Goff is very far from a "sure thing"

Every year when the Jets bring in a top guy all the BS starts. Suspect the Jets will take a QB somewhere in the draft, they are just bringing everyone in in case there is some real value like there was with Petty

 

[butterscotch]

Is Goff worth this kind of crazy maneuvering? No one seems to be really blown away with him or any of the QB's in this year's draft. I remember last year so much more hype around Mariota and Winston.

If i'm wrong, excuse my ignorance. I'm not a college football guy.

Same here


But If the Jets brain trust is loved by us then we need to trust them So if they feel he is the one I am all for it.....They have my trust now to a point

 

[mykcuz]

I'm no college qb expert, but I have not heard Goff is worth trading up for, by anyone.

Macc has earned a longer leash in my heart, I personally just see this as selling headlines. Until you have a franchise qb,you should be watching every qb.

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[lounap23]

Trade up for Wentz.... YES!!! For GOFF NOPE NOPE NOPE

 

[jets82]

Trade up for Wentz.... YES!!! For GOFF NOPE NOPE NOPE

Agreed agreed agreed

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

I believe Macc and Co. are just doing their due diligence here. I don't doubt some level of interest in both Wentz and Goff, but every good GM should be thoroughly prepared for the draft, including all possible players sliding, trade offers, ect.

Personally, I'd rather see us trade up for Wentz. Goff looks like a warm weather QB to me. A SD Charger type of QB. Say what you want about the draft geeks who talk about hand size, but that's a factor when drafting a QB in colder weather areas like NJ. Besides, I think Goff is a developmental QB. I don't think he's close to NFL ready. He's got a pretty high ceiling in the right place, though. Just don't think it's with the Jets.

 

[butterscotch]

I'm no college qb expert, but I have not heard Goff is worth trading up for, by anyone.

Macc has earned a longer leash in my heart, I personally just see this as selling headlines. Until you have a franchise qb,you should be watching every qb.

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I agree keep them coming...line them up like German firing squad

 

[flgreen]

Trade up for Wentz.... YES!!! For GOFF NOPE NOPE NOPE

Wentz is surly a young man on the rise. Very talented kid. He MAY turn out to be a good NFL QB.

Keep this in mind when we are talking about trading up to #1. When the season ended, before all the hype began, most people had him as a mid 2nd round pick. He played in the FCS against much inferior competition then most NFL QB's.

Wentz had an excellent Senior Bowl week which launched him on his rise to the top of the charts. A lot of that had to do with the fact that all the other QB's blew chunks. Very bad QB class.

Wentz may, or may not develop into a good NFL QB, but boy for a GM to put his job on the line will mean one of two things.

He either really believes in the kid for some reason, or he has a death wish.

At this point if for some reason Wentz were to fall (he won't) I would be all over him. No way I go to the top of the draft to get him.

Some one probably will

 

[jetgreen13]

Wentz is surly a young man on the rise. Very talented kid. He MAY turn out to be a good NFL QB.

Keep this in mind when we are talking about trading up to #1. When the season ended, before all the hype began, most people had him as a mid 2nd round pick. He played in the FCS against much inferior competition then most NFL QB's.

Wentz had an excellent Senior Bowl week which launched him on his rise to the top of the charts. A lot of that had to do with the fact that all the other QB's blew chunks. Very bad QB class.

Wentz may, or may not develop into a good NFL QB, but boy for a GM to put his job on the line will mean one of two things.

He either really believes in the kid for some reason, or he has a death wish.

At this point if for some reason Wentz were to fall (he won't) I would be all over him. No way I go to the top of the draft to get him.

Some one probably will

flgreen, i know you're a big college football guy so i'm sure you'll have some Intel..

how often do these kids that rocket up in the draft based on a strong week of practice leading to an all-star game work out in the pros??

LOLz it would seem to be enough for GM's to risk getting fired over those kids.. or maybe these are GM's trying to save their jobs at that point??

 

[flgreen]

flgreen, i know you're a big college football guy so i'm sure you'll have some Intel..

how often do these kids that rocket up in the draft based on a strong week of practice leading to an all-star game work out in the pros??

LOLz it would seem to be enough for GM's to risk getting fired over those kids.. or maybe these are GM's trying to save their jobs at that point??

WOW, great question. i might do some research on that. it might be difficult because I would have to find old end of season mocks, that were redone shortly after the the Senior Bowl.

The nature of the Senior Bowl is interesting. First off the game itself isn't all that important. The week of practice where every GM, and scout in the country is there to see how they do against many future NFL players one on one is the big deal.

Most of the players that are heralded as "lock" 1st round picks don't usually compete. Simple reason, they don't want to be shown up by some 3rd round pick. Petty is a good example of that. Coming into the Senior Bowl, after being in the O he was in, and getting hurt his senior year, he was probably considered a mid to late 2nd. He had a bad week, and struggled to play under center. (he was much improved in pre-season last year. Much improved) He fell all the way to the 4th round. BIG Fall. he would have been better off not going.

Wentz had an excellent week this year and went from the 2nd, to perhaps the first pick in the draft. GM's as a group, tend to be really desperate to find THAT GUY at QB, and frequently over react to a one week presentation. Just the way it is.

Another player who shot to the top of the charts at the SB was Spence. He had all kinds of off field issues, got expelled, and put up big #'s in a small school.

He owned every one all week as a pass rusher. Seemed unblockable. People started talking top 10. Then he pulled a hammie at the combine, and with drew, got sick for his Pro Day, and couldn't perform. Raised a lot of eyebrows. Will be interesting to see where he goes. Think he's going to be on the board at 20.



OH Boy.

Sorry I couldn't give a more conclusive answer, but I'm sure what situation that the GM is in matters big time. Particularly with QB's. If a GM has a good team, but just can't find a QB, and is now on the hot seat, he might be very likely to pull the trigger on an early selection of a "late riser" because of the Senior Bowl , then a GM who is fairly secure in his job with the owner.

Edit: I like the Senior Bowl, it is rather rare that players shoot from 2nd or 3rd round to the top ten based on the Senior Bowl. This year we might have two.

The Combine on the other hand, always has players that shoot up draft boards based on 40 times. The GM grave yard is littered with GM's who put to much stock in it.

They still do it though

 

[jetgreen13]

WOW, great question. i might do some research on that. it might be difficult because I would have to find old end of season mocks, that were redone shortly after the the Senior Bowl.

The nature of the Senior Bowl is interesting. First off the game itself isn't all that important. The week of practice where every GM, and scout in the country is there to see how they do against many future NFL players one on one, is the big deal.

Most of the players that are heralded as "lock" 1st round picks don't usually compete. Simple reason, they don't want to be shown up by some 3rd round pick. Petty is a good example of that. Coming into the Senior Bowl, after being in the O he was in, and getting hurt his senior year, he was probably considered a mid to late 2nd. He had a bad week, and struggled to play under center. (he was much improved in pre-season last year. Much improved) He fell all the way to the 4th round. BIG Fall. he would have been better off not going.

Wentz had an excellent week this year and went from the 2nd, to perhaps the first pick in the draft. GM's as a group, tend to be really desperate to find THAT GUY, at QB, and frequently over react to a one week presentation. Just the way it is.

Another player who shot to the top of the charts at the SB was Spence. He had all kinds of off field issues, got expelled and put up big #'s in a small school.

He owned every one, all week as a pass rusher. Seemed unblockable. People started talking top 10. Then he pulled a hammie, at the combine, and with drew, and got sick for his Pro Day, and couldn't perform. Raised a lot of eyebrows. Will be interesting to see where he goes. Think he's going to be on the board at 20.



OH Boy.

Sorry I couldn't give a more conclusive answer, but I'm sure what situation the the GM is in matters big time. Particularly with QB's. If a GM has a good team, but just can't find a QB, and is now on the hot seat, he might be very likely to pull the trigger on an early selection of a "late riser" because of the Senior Bowl , then a GM who is fairly secure in his job with the owner.

Edit: I like the Senior Bowl, it is rather rare that players shoot from 2nd or 3rd round to the top ten based on the Senior Bowl. This year we might have two.

The Combine on the other hand, always have players that shoot up draft boards based on 40 times. The GM grave yard is littered with GM's who put to much stock in it.

They still do it though

thanks for the well thought out response flgreen but please don't give yourself a homework assignment on my account..

I was curious if it was something you knew off the top of your head..