My feelings on the Adams Pick are similar to Leonard Williams

[Green Jets & Ham]

On the one hand I hate drafting to a position of lesser need with so many real holes to fill, especially having recently spent a 1 on Calvin Pryor.

I also realize that unless you draft a HOF caliber Safety, an Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu type of difference maker, a Safety is a bad pick in the TOP 10

So I'm not gonna lie, I don't love the pick and its not the pick I would have made. I would have taken OJ Howard, but I can't complain about it after Howard slid all the way to 19. Obviously I overvalued the player, otherwise there's no way in hell he slides that far, so I do take some solace in that.

That said, I wish Mac had the balls to pull the trigger on Mahomes instead of Adams, but that would have taken gigantic balls, so I can't kill him over that either, nor can I go crazy that he didn't take Hooker and Lattimore who both slid out of the TOP 10 as well, as did Jonathan Allen.

In retrospect the only real alternatives were probably Mike Williams or Christian McCaffery, and I would have been happy with either guy, but I don't think any of us would argue that either one carried a higher grade than Adams. Adams was a consensus TOP 3 player in this draft and that evaluation was close to universal.

So in the end its similar to Williams, there's no doubt that Adams was the highest rated player on the board when the Jets went on the clock, and a player nobody anticipated would slide to the Jets, INCLUDING THE JETS, so while its not a sexy pick, Safety never is, and while there is a very high standard for this player to meet for him to justify this selection, a lot of people think he can be that kind of Impact Safety.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I liked Howard, but my issue with him is we might not have a QB that can take advantage of his skillset for awhile. Adams walks in day one and can make a big impact.

 

[lounap23]

I love this pick. I would have loved Howard too lol

 

[jets82]

I would have rathered the Jets gone Howard or Williams or Davis (think Davis was gone anyway) but the Adams grade and draft choice is understood. You or I could feel the presence, passion and appreciation or the kid as he walked up to Goddell and spoke to Deon Sanders. So this kid may very well turn out to be something special. He has big shoes to fill with Larry Collins playing in the same stadium for the Giants. He also will be under a lot of scrutiny with the Jets fans and media, so I wish the kid well and hope he turns out to be all everyone pretty much says he will be.

 

[Xmarco]

Great pick IMO after seeing the draft so far only other option was Williams based on when they were taken... Thought Hooker would be great too....need to create TO

 

[jetgreen13]

i wasn't crazy about picking a TE or a safety at 6 but LOLz that changed once we were on the clock.. with howard still on the board, i was really hoping we would grab him..

but to piggy back off of jets82, i was legitimately impressed with the way our new safety answered questions.. the kid basically said he was going to do everything in his power to make the jets & our fan base proud.. i believe him!! & as a new yorker, i like to think i have a pretty good BS radar..

 

[hobson54]

how is safety in the top 10 unless he is a HOFer a bad pick, but the same doesn't hold for TE or RB (let alone mccaffery, a white scat back)?

adams was one of the top 3 or so players in this draft and the jets have a huge need in the secondary. pryor is mediocre and coming up to the end of his contract. gilchrist is hurt and kind of a JAG. adams is a difference maker in the secondary, where we need a ton of help.

this isn't taking williams when we had mo and sheldon. this is taking a premier talent at a position where we had a pretty big need.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

how is safety in the top 10 unless he is a HOFer a bad pick, but the same doesn't hold for TE or RB (let alone mccaffery, a white scat back)?

adams was one of the top 3 or so players in this draft and the jets have a huge need in the secondary. pryor is mediocre and coming up to the end of his contract. gilchrist is hurt and kind of a JAG. adams is a difference maker in the secondary, where we need a ton of help.

this isn't taking williams when we had mo and sheldon. this is taking a premier talent at a position where we had a pretty big need.

My point is, Safeties are rarely impact players, only the great ones do things on a weekly basis to impact the game and make sure everyone knows they were playing and making a difference. There's just something about the nature of the position where you can fade into the woodwork, have a decent career, do your job, but never really make an impact. Guys like Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Ronnie Lott, Earl Thomas, Mel Blount etc. are rare, extremely rare, most safeties can play for 60 minutes, and play well, and you barely even knew they were there.

IMO to justify the #6 Overall Pick, this kid has to break the mold. A lot of people think he will, thats why he was a consensus TOP 3 Pick in this draft, but if he doesn't, IMO its a wasted pick. We had to get an impact player with this pick, regardless of position. I'm just saying, its a lot harder to find one at Safety than some other positions that make it easier to be an impact player (QB, WR, TE, RB, CB, Edge Rusher and even LT).

 

[jetgreen13]

My point is, Safeties are rarely impact players, only the great ones do things on a weekly basis to impact the game and make sure everyone knows they were playing and making a difference. There's just something about the nature of the position where you can fade into the woodwork, have a decent career, do your job, but never really make an impact. Guys like Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Ronnie Lott, Earl Thomas, Mel Blount etc. are rare, extremely rare, most safeties can play for 60 minutes, and play well, and you barely even knew they were there.

IMO to justify the #6 Overall Pick, this kid has to break the mold. A lot of people think he will, thats why he was a consensus TOP 3 Pick in this draft, but if he doesn't, IMO its a wasted pick. We had to get an impact player with this pick, regardless of position. I'm just saying, its a lot harder to find one at Safety than some other positions that make it easier to be an impact player (QB, WR, TE, RB, CB, Edge Rusher and even LT).

i agree with the bolded.. hopefully the kid is special & bowles/rogers puts him in position to show his talents.. that's not a given with those two.. & if not bowles/rogers, then their replacements..

 

[hobson54]

My point is, Safeties are rarely impact players, only the great ones do things on a weekly basis to impact the game and make sure everyone knows they were playing and making a difference. There's just something about the nature of the position where you can fade into the woodwork, have a decent career, do your job, but never really make an impact. Guys like Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Ronnie Lott, Earl Thomas, Mel Blount etc. are rare, extremely rare, most safeties can play for 60 minutes, and play well, and you barely even knew they were there.

IMO to justify the #6 Overall Pick, this kid has to break the mold. A lot of people think he will, thats why he was a consensus TOP 3 Pick in this draft, but if he doesn't, IMO its a wasted pick. We had to get an impact player with this pick, regardless of position. I'm just saying, its a lot harder to find one at Safety than some other positions that make it easier to be an impact player (QB, WR, TE, RB, CB, Edge Rusher and even LT).

i understand your point. i'm hoping he's our earl thomas or ed reed. but i'm not sold on TE being any more of an impact position than safety. by the same token you are measuring adams, howard would need to be kellen winslow or ozzie newsome. and RB (especially after fournette was gone) is a position you can literally find players anywhere in the draft, or even UDFA. mccaffery isn't even necessarily a 3 down back in the nfl. he may be a good weapon, like a darren sproles type player. he's not a bell cow RB, which is what you would want at #6.

no question on QB, OT, edge rusher and CB being "premium positions". not sure i put WR as high up there for a top 6 pick. but in this draft, there were no premium players at those positions when the jets picked.

 

[Elias]

 

[gastineau]

Jets Gm was lucky again that he didnt have to make a decision like Williams & now Adams falling to him. But like the Williams Draft Mikey didnt get anything unless it falls into his lap & thats my concern here. So now in the 2nd round is where GOOD GM's are separated . So lets see what Jets GM takes today, QB? RB? CB? WR? TE??? Center???? Jets needs are great everywhere so its the best Skilled Player that will be a game changer. Here is where Mikey keeps striking out....

 

[SackExchange]

How long can fans avoid giving credit to Maccagnan? Yes, both Williams and Adams fell into his lap, but he also did what other GMs didn't do - he made the pick.

If we're going to dismiss every good draft pick and not give him credit because a good player was available for him, then what's the point of evaluating him at all? Every good move can be dismissed, and every bad move highlighted.

When it happens once, fine. Chalk it up to luck, and give him no credit. When it happens twice, you can't just say he got lucky again. No Jets GM benefits from good luck that often.

 

[gmf1369]

the difference between Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams the Jets told Adams you shouldn't be there but IF you are, you aren't getting past us...

guarantee the Jets were fielding offers BUT when Adams fell to them they were straight lucky and they made a promise which they upheld...

 

[butterscotch]

How long can fans avoid giving credit to Maccagnan? Yes, both Williams and Adams fell into his lap, but he also did what other GMs didn't do - he made the pick.

If we're going to dismiss every good draft pick and not give him credit because a good player was available for him, then what's the point of evaluating him at all? Every good move can be dismissed, and every bad move highlighted.

When it happens once, fine. Chalk it up to luck, and give him no credit. When it happens twice, you can't just say he got lucky again. No Jets GM benefits from good luck that often.

As long as I want it is a free country:global (10): He needs more time but we must throw him a rope

 

[SackExchange]

As long as I want it is a free country:global (10): He needs more time but we must throw him a rope

Of course you have a right to do what you want. I didn't think my comment was silencing anyone, but rather about how ridiculous the lengths some fans will go just to be SOJF.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

How long can fans avoid giving credit to Maccagnan? Yes, both Williams and Adams fell into his lap, but he also did what other GMs didn't do - he made the pick.

If we're going to dismiss every good draft pick and not give him credit because a good player was available for him, then what's the point of evaluating him at all? Every good move can be dismissed, and every bad move highlighted.

When it happens once, fine. Chalk it up to luck, and give him no credit. When it happens twice, you can't just say he got lucky again. No Jets GM benefits from good luck that often.

I agree. Look at the bone headed moves teams ahead of us made. Mac deserves credit for landing Adams. That said, it's time to end the second round debacles of the last 30 years. There are too many good players left on the board. I have a feeling a trade is a possibility as some teams may try to move up to nab Peterman, Kizer or Davis. I wouldn't mind dropping 10-12 spots in round 2 to land an additional pick in round 3.

If we select at 39 my preferences in order are Forrest Lamp (although I can't see him getting past Coughlin), Kevin King, Quincy Wilson, Cam Robinson and Zay Jones. I want no part of Dalvin Cook. Also hoping for a center and LB in round 3.

 

[SackExchange]

I agree. Look at the bone headed moves teams ahead of us made. Mac deserves credit for landing Adams. That said, it's time to end the second round debacles of the last 30 years. There are too many good players left on the board. I have a feeling a trade is a possibility as some teams may try to move up to nab Peterman, Kizer or Davis. I wouldn't mind dropping 10-12 spots in round 2 to land an additional pick in round 3.

If we select at 39 my preferences in order are Forrest Lamp (although I can't see him getting past Coughlin), Kevin King, Quincy Wilson, Cam Robinson and Zay Jones. I want no part of Dalvin Cook. Also hoping for a center and LB in round 3.

I agree about landing a top player in the second. And they are available. I'm not as anti-Cook as you are, necessarily.

A good second rounder would make this draft really fall into place.

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

It's time to clean house and bring in high character guys. Cook is a real talent but his off-field issues are something I would stay away from. I would also keep all rookies away from Sheldon. I'm hoping we could get a round 4 pick this year and a conditional pick next year for him. I was hoping KC but they gave away too many picks yesterday. Bengals? I'm glad they went receiver yesterday instead of one of defense.

Chidobe Awuzie is a corner I would love to have. Jordan Willis is another guy I would love to see in the Jets locker room. I've had enough prima donnas who can't make team meetings. Adams is of the highest character and I stated in a previous email, he could be the straw that stirs the drink for this team. There is talent on this defense but no leaders. We need a few more guys like Adams, Awuzie or Willis to turn this around.

 

[Mainejet]

How long can fans avoid giving credit to Maccagnan? Yes, both Williams and Adams fell into his lap, but he also did what other GMs didn't do - he made the pick.

If we're going to dismiss every good draft pick and not give him credit because a good player was available for him, then what's the point of evaluating him at all? Every good move can be dismissed, and every bad move highlighted.

When it happens once, fine. Chalk it up to luck, and give him no credit. When it happens twice, you can't just say he got lucky again. No Jets GM benefits from good luck that often.

This is nonsense, Sack. A few good picks that were labeled as "BPA" does not a GM make? Whether you or anyone else wants to acknowledge it, the GM's success/failure is forever linked to the team's success/failure. Makes sense, right? That's logical, right?

The fact is this team had one OK season and one terrible season. So where they are in there 3rd season with Mac, the playoffs should be EXPECTED and that is fair given how long he's gotten to build this team. Yet the Jets are in total rebuilding mode from scratch.

I didn't write the rules for GM's, I am merely giving you the publics perception.

Mac needs to draft much better with players that don't fall in his lap. He needs to show that he can identify talent in later rounds than the 1st. He needs to start this team on a winning path. I'll reserve judgment until I see how he handles the rest of this draft, but he must NET at least 3 starters in this draft. Otherwise, the team is just spinning their wheels and will never become SB champions under his direction.