That's reason enough to hate this. I mean, if the front office 25 years ago took Browning Nagle, how can you argue that?
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That's reason enough to hate this. I mean, if the front office 25 years ago took Browning Nagle, how can you argue that?
Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else because I never said anything about Hackenburg being a top flight QB. If so, I don't remember when that could have been and if you have proof, show me???
FYI- I never said I was a QB guru or acted like I was one. So save that BS for someone else and don't direct it towards me!
I love Jets fans... McCagnan goes from genius to absolute moron simply because his QB evaluation doesn't line up with what they think is the right pick.
2 years ago Hackenburg was projected as a #1 overall pick. He has shown unique skills.
Can we give him 5 or maybe 10 snaps in training camp before he is proclaimed the worst QB since Ryan Leaf
2 years ago Hackenburg was projected as a #1 overall pick. He has shown unique skills.
Can we give him 5 or maybe 10 snaps in training camp before he is proclaimed the worst QB since Ryan Leaf
Because they didn't think Lynch was the Guy.
I agree what a waste in the second if we are trying to win now?
I hope your right and he proves me wrong and I will cut him some slack because he did go through tuff 2nd and 3rd years at PSU. All good points!
maybe i have you confused with someone else, but i recall a lot of talk on the board over hack and cook being the top 2 QBs on the board. i know you always talk about needing a franchise QB, so maybe i mixed you up with someone else.
but as you say here, you are not a QB guru. so why do you think it's impossible that the jets may have ranked hack higher than lynch?
Well...... that's probably because Lynch scored a whopping 18 on the Wonderlic test. If you look at all the franchise QB's...... they are all smart. Brady, the Mannings, Wilson, Rivers, Carr, Matt Ryan..... all smart. Stupid shits like Kaep, Lynch, Geno.......never amount to diddly shit .
Our third & fourth better be good ones
Haha, yes I like it!
Point, you know I would not have taken a QB in that spot either, we both said it before the pick, but I also said if we're going to take a QB, Hack has a much higher ceiling than Cook in my view. Hack is 6' 5"/225 and he has a cannon for an arm, and his tape from his Freshman year is terrific. Since then their O-line has been atrocious, he's been sacked a hundred times!, by far the most in the nation, and the coaching was awful as well. I'm not making excuses, he's been awful the past two years, but its not ALL his fault and he has big time NFL tools. The Jets can hit a HR with this pick, its possible, there's a chance. Its not a great chance, maybe 25% to be fair, but there is a chance and its not just a pipe dream chance.
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Hey Hobson.
Where is good ol' Superman55? He has talked about Hack since he was a high school recruit that committed to PSU. He must be crazy stoked about this.
Where is good ol' Superman55? He has talked about Hack since he was a high school recruit that committed to PSU. He must be crazy stoked about this.
I'm not saying it's impossible that they had him ranked higher, I'm just saying I don't see how? Hackenburg's second and third year at PSU were not good at all. I will give him credit for sticking it out with the team with everything the football team was going through. And yes you do have me mixed up because I never argued for Cook or Hackenburg being franchise QBs.
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I will remove players from this list as they are selected.
BY POSITION
QB
Connor Cook
Jacoby Brissett
Dak Prescott
RB
Devontae Booker
Kenneth Dixon
Jordan Howard
C.J. Prosise
Paul Perkins
WR
Pharaoh Cooper
TE
Jarrell Adams
Nick Vannett
Tyler Higbee
OT
Willie Beavers
G/C
Christian Westerman
Evan Boehm
Connor McGovern
DE/DT
Andrew Billings
Hassan Ridgeway
Javon Hargrave
ER
Kyler Fackrell
LB
Joshua Perry
Jatavis Brown
S
Miles Killebrew
DeAndre Houston-Carson
Justin Simmons
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I don't think Hackenburg will be the answer but hopefully he proves me wrong.
Can't be worse than Geno!!
Lol, very true! Very true
I agree. I'll root for him and give him a chance. I don't think there's a poster on this board that doesn't want Hack to become an all-pro. History dictates that guys with poor accuracy don't improve in the NFL. EJ Manuel really rings home for me. Take all the tools you want, but give me the guy that sees the field and delivers (most importantly) an accurate ball.
Gruden Loves Hackenberg.... The QB's this year are all over the place... Let's remember.. once O'brien left and the Penn St sanctions were felt things went bad for Hackenberg. Lack of decent coaching, lack of talent and 2 systems that didn't fit Hackenberg...
Lots of professional evaluators had Hackenberg ahead of Lynch....I'll trust Mac here..
I think Petty and Hackenberg have us set up nicely for one of these guys to be our guy for a long time