Official Game Thread: New England Patriots at New York Jets

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If I was Saleh I would sit down with Carter the OL coach and say how can we make this adjustment to where our QB whomever is under center can be more secure and feel comfortable he will have three seconds and more.

we know the best play we got was with Becton and AVT that means if we need to replace Brown on the left side that means we need to put AVT at LG fuck Laken has been disappointing since we signed him last year and how he won the starting job this year is bewildering. Tippman we drafted for a reason, lets put him in at center and let him with Becton, and AVT on the left side get to gelling. Trade McGovern, Trade Laken and maybe we can find someone in a trade that we can plug at RG oh wait we have some young players on the practice squad that can do something even platoon that position with Max Mitchell as the RT. Tired of seeing this team implode with shit OL play. Followed by discouraging QB play. We need a young energetic tight end that can do more than keep the bench warm then come in and not separate unless they sit down in zone coverage for our QB not to throw to him.

we need to get the running game going now whatever happened to Breece think he has the Dalvin Cook disease. End of the day want to see more of Mike Carter and the rookie Izzy with these two shitting the bed.
 

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If I was Saleh I would sit down with Carter the OL coach and say how can we make this adjustment to where our QB whomever is under center can be more secure and feel comfortable he will have three seconds and more.

we know the best play we got was with Becton and AVT that means if we need to replace Brown on the left side that means we need to put AVT at LG fuck Laken has been disappointing since we signed him last year and how he won the starting job this year is bewildering. Tippman we drafted for a reason, lets put him in at center and let him with Becton, and AVT on the left side get to gelling. Trade McGovern, Trade Laken and maybe we can find someone in a trade that we can plug at RG oh wait we have some young players on the practice squad that can do something even platoon that position with Max Mitchell as the RT. Tired of seeing this team implode with shit OL play. Followed by discouraging QB play. We need a young energetic tight end that can do more than keep the bench warm then come in and not separate unless they sit down in zone coverage for our QB not to throw to him.

we need to get the running game going now whatever happened to Breece think he has the Dalvin Cook disease. End of the day want to see more of Mike Carter and the rookie Izzy with these two shitting the bed.
Jets played a VERY good defense today. RBs had nowhere to go. Breece might also be too much into last year's hype. Problem with NE is their offense blows, much like our O Line.
 

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He had a Mezz box at Shea for the Mets in '69. When He went back for the Jets in '84 they weren't home so he left.
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Jets played a VERY good defense today. RBs had nowhere to go. Breece might also be too much into last year's hype. Problem with NE is their offense blows, much like our O Line.
the game plan should of been simple a lot more reverses with Gipson, G Wilson, and even Mecole Hardman use the speed to take the ball out of Zach WIlson's hands while also helping the OL then be able to run counter plays for Breece, Cook and even Carter. But no, we are going pedestrian because Zach is to inept to understand the X's and O's of how to play the game. Year fucking three and Year fucking zero with no progression.
 

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the game plan should of been simple a lot more reverses with Gipson, G Wilson, and even Mecole Hardman use the speed to take the ball out of Zach WIlson's hands while also helping the OL then be able to run counter plays for Breece, Cook and even Carter. But no, we are going pedestrian because Zach is to inept to understand the X's and O's of how to play the game. Year fucking three and Year fucking zero with no progression.
It's been said by many often, but Zach Wilson just does not see the field well. That one throw underneath/4th down at the end was flabbergasting. Throw the ball down field.
 

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I wanted them to put Boyle in and see how the O looked. We weren't going anywhere with Zach, but Saleh just can't seem to comprehend that. He doesn't see the field and is extremely slow on his reads!! He only throws to open receivers and is almost always late on the throw. Forget going through progressions, if his first read/throw isn't there the kid is just screwed (he is constantly running backwards and then has nowhere to go or throw). Someone needs to teach him where the damn pocket is supposed to be, he seems oblivious to that.
 

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Hackett can not Hack It!

Zach Wilson is NOT Aaron Rodgers 2.0

Tim Boyle out played Zach Wilson in preseason

Tim Boyle played for Hackett and AR understands the game plan/playbook and do not have to tailor it down to run it.

Zach Wilson needs to be benched until he knows checking it down is a good thing. Still playing Hero Ball just more dumbed down to the point he knows he can not turn it over which means he will not throw it to anyone else then the desired player for that play. Players on some plays were wide open and it was obvious he was told to focus on player A & B only. this will be a long season if we can not have a competent signal caller under center.

For all those Zach Wilson homers out there, did not listen to me during his pro day and did not listen to me from day one. Told You So!
 

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Maybe Z. Wilson is like WIld Thing in Major League, all he needs is glasses and he'll see where he's throwing
 

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I wanted them to put Boyle in and see how the O looked. We weren't going anywhere with Zach, but Saleh just can't seem to comprehend that. He doesn't see the field and is extremely slow on his reads!! He only throws to open receivers and is almost always late on the throw. Forget going through progressions, if his first read/throw isn't there the kid is just screwed (he is constantly running backwards and then has nowhere to go or throw). Someone needs to teach him where the damn pocket is supposed to be, he seems oblivious to that.
Without a shred of sarcasm, after three years, I don't believe Zach is teachable. No way he's on this team next season. Neither will Saleh and JD.
 

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I wanted them to put Boyle in and see how the O looked. We weren't going anywhere with Zach, but Saleh just can't seem to comprehend that. He doesn't see the field and is extremely slow on his reads!! He only throws to open receivers and is almost always late on the throw. Forget going through progressions, if his first read/throw isn't there the kid is just screwed (he is constantly running backwards and then has nowhere to go or throw). Someone needs to teach him where the damn pocket is supposed to be, he seems oblivious to that.
Saleh is not Offense or Defense he is the head coach and during game days he is the ultimate cheer leader his coaches have the right to flame out. This is where he is failing us, not stepping in and talking with his coordinators during games, never seen a coach with his eyes more on the field then Saleh.
 

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Saleh is not Offense or Defense he is the head coach and during game days he is the ultimate cheer leader his coaches have the right to flame out. This is where he is failing us, not stepping in and talking with his coordinators during games, never seen a coach with his eyes more on the field then Saleh.
I never understood the Saleh hire. It becomes more perplexing after every game. Seeing him on screen actually pisses me off.
 

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at this point if we are going to flame out at least give the young OLM a chance to gel, to build continuity.

Figure out who is your left tackle, we know we drafted our center. from there if Becton is your left then AVT is your left guard. Max Mitchell deserves a chance to reclaim his rookie season but we need another interior lineman at right guard.

Zach Wilson is not a drop back quarterback and this OL can not protect a mobile gonna move the pocket even on check down plays.

wasting the talent on defense another year with this shit show we call an offense. straight offensive.
 

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I never understood the Saleh hire. It becomes more perplexing after every game. Seeing him on screen actually pisses me off.
Saleh was brought in here to be a visionary and return the Legion of Boom but to green & white problem is he turned over the reigns on defense to Ulbrich which made himself inept as that defensive guru. I understand he wants to be political as a head coach but when the offense is sputtering you need to be in the O.C.'s face and say wtf? we need to do this we need to have an alternative plan in place when the game plan is not working and he has to be able to tell the O.C. lets switch it up and go that way.
 

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at this point if we are going to flame out at least give the young OLM a chance to gel, to build continuity.

Figure out who is your left tackle, we know we drafted our center. from there if Becton is your left then AVT is your left guard. Max Mitchell deserves a chance to reclaim his rookie season but we need another interior lineman at right guard.

Zach Wilson is not a drop back quarterback and this OL can not protect a mobile gonna move the pocket even on check down plays.

wasting the talent on defense another year with this shit show we call an offense. straight offensive.
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Just seems like the coaching staff is stuck in mud. They do the political thing, not the right thing. We can't say it's about winning games when you refuse to deviate from your planning (even when it is clearly failing)
 

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I said this before but after this game we will not be able to trade Zach for nothing more than a conditional pick. There are two teams that may need a QB, New Orleans may be one with Carr hurt during the game today. Am tired, of knowing the plays before we snap the ball. I want an offense that surprises me and is successful. Every O.C. same shit, this is just horrendous. Glad we drafted Breece but really signing Cook looked like a smart move but he has been nothing more than the old fat Zeke Elliot who out played us today as well.

We need to find that ground and pound mentality.
Another thing we need to keep Zach Wilson from talking to the media. The more he gets in front of the mic, the more he looks fucking retarded.
 

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I said this before but after this game we will not be able to trade Zach for nothing more than a conditional pick. There are two teams that may need a QB, New Orleans may be one with Carr hurt during the game today. Am tired, of knowing the plays before we snap the ball. I want an offense that surprises me and is successful. Every O.C. same shit, this is just horrendous. Glad we drafted Breece but really signing Cook looked like a smart move but he has been nothing more than the old fat Zeke Elliot who out played us today as well.

We need to find that ground and pound mentality.
Another thing we need to keep Zach Wilson from talking to the media. The more he gets in front of the mic, the more he looks fucking retarded.
I missed Zach and the media. I'll go find it. He was that dopey?
 
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