Official Game Thread: New York Jets at San Fransisco 49ers

butterscotch

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Just a little perspective. This was against the 49rs who are one of the best rosters and coached teams in the NFL for the last few years. Yes we certainly did not look good, but I’m not as down as most of you.
Think if we had won tonight & the next three weeks. Some would be talking 72 dolphins
 
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Old#15

Old Wise Tale
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It was clearly disturbing particularly on defense. It wasnt only the inability to stop the run but there were too many wide open receivers 10-15 yards downfield that had me wondering WTF is going on. Shanahan is good but that was a pathetic performance on all levels of the defense. Looked like a team that was ill-prepared to play. Maybe last night’s punch in the mouth will get their attention. We are not that bad.
 

TonyFtLaud

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Overreaction Tuesday.
I'm as disappointed as the rest of you. But I did say you can't put any stock in week 1 games. They are rarely telling since the new CBA.
I fully expected the D to struggle vs the Run. They were bad vs the Run last year and let the best run defenders walk in the off season.
The o line was a major disappointment, could not open any holes whatsoever and were pushed back into the pocket all night. It was the first time taking a single snap together in live game action though.
AR looked Pedestrian at best. First game back from major injury, hopefully got the mental aspect of returning out of the way last night.
Hopefully it gets better, much better....
 

Europe_for_JETS

Pro Bowl 1st Team
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I have zero confidence in Saleh. He hasn't really shown anything since he arrived here.
I keep repeating this, but we haven't had a good one since Parcells (Rex being the partial exception).
 

cheaterhater

I've Lost My Fucking Mind
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Overreaction Tuesday.
I'm as disappointed as the rest of you. But I did say you can't put any stock in week 1 games. They are rarely telling since the new CBA.
I fully expected the D to struggle vs the Run. They were bad vs the Run last year and let the best run defenders walk in the off season.
The o line was a major disappointment, could not open any holes whatsoever and were pushed back into the pocket all night. It was the first time taking a single snap together in live game action though.
AR looked Pedestrian at best. First game back from major injury, hopefully got the mental aspect of returning out of the way last night.
Hopefully it gets better, much better....
Hard to get worse
 

Gramoah

Retired but not Tired
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Just a little perspective. This was against the 49rs who are one of the best rosters and coached teams in the NFL for the last few years. Yes we certainly did not look good, but I’m not as down as most of you.

I agree with this assessment. The defense really failed on this outing no doubt about it but it doesn't mean they are bad. They've been really good for the last couple of seasons and I don't believe they just suddenly got bad. They just had a bad day and it happened against the 2nd best team in the NFL . Run defense will improve especially because they know other teams will concentrate on that after seeing how well it worked for the Niners . The offense did a pretty good job of protecting Rogers but they need to improve in the run game. It's the first of 17 games so I'm not going to go off the deep end and hit the get rid of everybody button just yet.
 

MiJetFan

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After the initial anger over that pathetic all around performance you have to say they looked lost. Maybe Saleh should have let the 1's play in game situations TOGETHER. You know, since your QB hasn't played in a year with these guys. If it doesn't tighten up in a few weeks then you can hit the panic button.
The D same thing. They looked unprepared and on their heels. Riddick loved the pass rush BTW. Non-existent Pass Rush. Hell after seeing that Riddick will probably just take this Season off.
 

KenO'B

Pro Bowl 1st Team
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Overreaction Tuesday.
I'm as disappointed as the rest of you. But I did say you can't put any stock in week 1 games. They are rarely telling since the new CBA.
I fully expected the D to struggle vs the Run. They were bad vs the Run last year and let the best run defenders walk in the off season.
The o line was a major disappointment, could not open any holes whatsoever and were pushed back into the pocket all night. It was the first time taking a single snap together in live game action though.
AR looked Pedestrian at best. First game back from major injury, hopefully got the mental aspect of returning out of the way last night.
Hopefully it gets better, much better....
In soccer, they use those stupid preseason friendlies to shake the rust off and get fit for the season, in the NFL they use those games to play scrubs while most of the stars are sat at home counting their money.

It seems an odd way to do things while saying you can't put stock in week 1 games because they are rusty and unprepared.

Call it an overreaction if you like but we were shite, just for once, will they be something different?
 

TonyFtLaud

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In soccer, they use those stupid preseason friendlies to shake the rust off and get fit for the season, in the NFL they use those games to play scrubs while most of the stars are sat at home counting their money.

It seems an odd way to do things while saying you can't put stock in week 1 games because they are rusty and unprepared.

Call it an overreaction if you like but we were shite, just for once, will they be something different?
The New CBA severely limits off season work. Preseason games are essentially to get a look at 3rd string and PS players.
Teams have different philosophies on how to proceed but most don't want to expose their starters to injury, a small percentage still do on a very limited basis.
The problem comes in when you have 5
o lineman who have never taken a snap together.
I said that I put little stock in week one games due to that. Look across the league,teams that scored in bunches only to fall on their ass and give up big comeback wins ,upsets are the norm. It's my opinion that week 1 never translates to the rest of the season.
If we won last night, we would be building the cabinet for the VLT today Lots of football left in the season and a lot can and will happen between now and Feb. Will it be good or bad? I don't know,but I'm not ready to give up on the season after 1 game.
 

MiJetFan

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The New CBA severely limits off season work. Preseason games are essentially to get a look at 3rd string and PS players.
Teams have different philosophies on how to proceed but most don't want to expose their starters to injury, a small percentage still do on a very limited basis.
The problem comes in when you have 5
o lineman who have never taken a snap together.
I said that I put little stock in week one games due to that. Look across the league,teams that scored in bunches only to fall on their ass and give up big comeback wins ,upsets are the norm. It's my opinion that week 1 never translates to the rest of the season.
If we won last night, we would be building the cabinet for the VLT today Lots of football left in the season and a lot can and will happen between now and Feb. Will it be good or bad? I don't know,but I'm not ready to give up on the season after 1 game.
I agree with this but feel things needed to be done differently with AR and the offense. AR has had what 2 training camps these guys? I felt playing at least the starting OL and letting Rodgers take a hit in a game situation would've been beneficial. I'm not saying let him get killed out there or play the starters for 4 quarters in the 1st preseason game, but one or two series wouldn't have killed them. We will see. The Season isn't over and the coming weeks will tell the tale.
 

TonyFtLaud

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I agree with this but feel things needed to be done differently with AR and the offense. AR has had what 2 training camps these guys? I felt playing at least the starting OL and letting Rodgers take a hit in a game situation would've been beneficial. I'm not saying let him get killed out there or play the starters for 4 quarters in the 1st preseason game, but one or two series wouldn't have killed them. We will see. The Season isn't over and the coming weeks will tell the tale.
I don't disagree. It will take some time to gel but I believe it will happen. Mostly vets on the line and Rodgers is not going to gain anything from a handful of snaps. Easy to second guess,but Rodgers coming off injury and 4 of 5 of our O lineman are injury prone or returning from major injury.
Just think of the fallout if they had played and Rodgers or one of the tackles were injured?
 

KenO'B

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
The New CBA severely limits off season work. Preseason games are essentially to get a look at 3rd string and PS players.
Teams have different philosophies on how to proceed but most don't want to expose their starters to injury, a small percentage still do on a very limited basis.
The problem comes in when you have 5
o lineman who have never taken a snap together.
I said that I put little stock in week one games due to that. Look across the league,teams that scored in bunches only to fall on their ass and give up big comeback wins ,upsets are the norm. It's my opinion that week 1 never translates to the rest of the season.
If we won last night, we would be building the cabinet for the VLT today Lots of football left in the season and a lot can and will happen between now and Feb. Will it be good or bad? I don't know,but I'm not ready to give up on the season after 1 game.
That's why it is odd then really, look I understand it is a tough old game and some in England think they are fannies for wearing 'hats n stuff' but it is utterly ridiculous to come into a season essentially cold, practice ground can't replicate the real thing.

Can the Jets really afford to give a game away, 49ers without their star RB absolutely gashed our defence running the ball, it was nothing short of embarrassing tbh

tbf if we had won we would be looking over our shoulders wondering if a big fucking bus was going to mow us down before the SuperBowl presentation :smileawake:
 

MiJetFan

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I don't disagree. It will take some time to gel but I believe it will happen. Mostly vets on the line and Rodgers is not going to gain anything from a handful of snaps. Easy to second guess,but Rodgers coming off injury and 4 of 5 of our O lineman are injury prone or returning from major injury.
Just think of the fallout if they had played and Rodgers or one of the tackles were injured?
Yes I know if one of the starters were hurt in a meaningless preseason game the fallout would be gargantuan. Same ole Jets, all that crap, yadda yadda yadda.
This performance is the result of not playing those guys in that scenario too.
I guess what I'm saying is that We can't have it both ways. It's today's NFL. Gone are the days of 2 a-days and snot bubbles(those in the know, know).
So are injuries in meaningless games(supposedly).
 

TonyFtLaud

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Yes I know if one of the starters were hurt in a meaningless preseason game the fallout would be gargantuan. Same ole Jets, all that crap, yadda yadda yadda.
This performance is the result of not playing those guys in that scenario too.
I guess what I'm saying is that We can't have it both ways. It's today's NFL. Gone are the days of 2 a-days and snot bubbles(those in the know, know).
So are injuries in meaningless games(supposedly).
I think it's more a result of Salah's philosophy to keep the linemen healthy. They skip a lot of the on field work in preseason for more weight training . I believe more reps side by side would be more beneficial.
 
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