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ok Joe Douglas you tell us what your front office is planning to do
even though I heard straight from people at Florham Park who state otherwise
best part about this they reiterated same message in post season, season review press conference but @DefenseWinsChampionships is really Joe Douglas who is planning to rid all the players he personally doesn't like to stack the team with his personal favorites...
 

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no they are in final talks of the extension for Berrios...
keeping Mims is because of his ceiling...
that one catch over the middle where he dragged the defenders and broke tackles is what they want from him...
the catch down the sideline at the beginning of the season was another point of his potential...
after the dropsies Corey had this year they want another guy to offset and believe Mims could be that guy...

Berrios is a 4th maybe 5th option on offense but is our returner with pop...
Berrios shows he is a baller and they want to keep that type of mentality here...
As long as they don't overpay this guy I don't have a problem with it. I like Berrios as a player but he did play above his head last Season.
 

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As long as they don't overpay this guy I don't have a problem with it. I like Berrios as a player but he did play above his head last Season.
or did he that is who the Patriots thought they drafted... but he was expendable to them with Edleman in house at the time... they tried to sneak him onto the practice squad but we claimed him and utilized him primarily as a returner, we never gave him that shot until last year with all the injuries then and because of Sam Darnold did Berrios step into the spot light this past season with all the injuries...
 

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Denzel Mims 20 career games with 0 TDs and only 490 career receiving yards is a big reason why Jets FO will look to upgrade over him.

Elijah Moore as a Rookie despite only 11 games = 6 TDs and 538 receiving yards.

Elijah is a 2nd round steal with star potential and I'm sorry but Denzel Mims is a 2nd round bust.

Corey Davis.
Elijah Moore.
Braxton Berrios.

Are all here to stay on our WR depth chart.

FA WR.
2022 Drafted WR.

And Denzel Mims becomes a 6th WR on our depth chart (at best).

He's done for (as a Jet at least).
Actually you're wrong again. All signs point to them keeping Mims as least from what I've read. Your guess is as good as mine as to why. I don't think he's shown enough to warrant a full roster spot, but maybe a place on the squad.
I just don't want to tie up starting WR money on a glorified KR because you think his style of play is tough. Berrios is a tough guy but those guys who are the size of Berrios are always getting hurt and where did He wind up the Season? On IR. Plus he has torn the same knee up twice in 4 Seasons or so. Don't give big money to this guy. It will be a mistake.



  • Before his first season in the collegiate division, Berrios suffered a torn ACL but was able to come back and feature in all the games that season. This injury pattern repeated in his rookie NFL year of 2018 and contributed to his being dropped by the New England Patriots after just one year.
REST MY CASE.
 

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Ok so did Flotham Park tell you that A.) JD won't sign a FA to upgrade over Denzel Mims and B.) Wont draft a WR during the 1st two rounds in order to upgrade over Denzel Mims (ala your boy Dotson)?

Because just common sense alone tells you that JD is going to do both (A & B).

And please don't address me (as a fan) as being "Joe Douglas" because your site or not that's disgusting and disrespectful (when all I'm doing is taking Jets Football).
I been telling you what i heard when I talk to my friends there that they are looking a specific people but you don't want to hear it you just want to run your mouth on who you like not who fits what the team is doing, it doesn't fall into your ideals it is wrong...

so since you don't pay attention keep living in your dream world...
 

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or did he that is who the Patriots thought they drafted... but he was expendable to them with Edleman in house at the time... they tried to sneak him onto the practice squad but we claimed him and utilized him primarily as a returner, we never gave him that shot until last year with all the injuries then and because of Sam Darnold did Berrios step into the spot light this past season with all the injuries...
Yeah but he does have an injury history and has torn the same Knee up in 4 Seasons. Big Red Flag there. I know Brax was a big contributor this Season, Hell he gave quite a few stand up and cheer moments. All I'm saying is look at the whole History and pay this guy like a KR and not a starting WR. He is replaceable if He wants big money and He will make no mistake about it. They can find a ton of hungry kids coming out of college who can do the same job and do it cheaper.
 

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Ok. You seem to love Dotson a lot. You also mentioned JuJu as a potential FA.

Are your friend's at Florham Park telling you the Jets are going to go after a FA WR and go after Dotson too?
they wanted JuJu last year that wasn't a folk lore that was Joe Douglas wanting JuJu
now with this offense and Saleh at the helm they could use JuJu as a true number one but he is looking for money in a down year he had...
they can get a flyer on a two year deal or go big and give him a 4 year deal...
he is not the only one they have a short list of possible targets...

as for Dotson, the scouting department sent scouts to 4 games for PSU this year and Dotson was the talk at all four of them...
 

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Yeah but he does have an injury history and has torn the same Knee up in 4 Seasons. Big Red Flag there. I know Brax was a big contributor this Season, Hell he gave quite a few stand up and cheer moments. All I'm saying is look at the whole History and pay this guy like a KR and not a starting WR. He is replaceable if He wants big money and He will make no mistake about it. They can find a ton of hungry kids coming out of college who can do the same job and do it cheaper.
was never a kick returner before but did what he had to, and became a damn good one... injury history aside all that gets inputted into extension talks like I said I believe no less than 14 over 4 years and maximum of 22 over 4 years is what I would do... He is worth that money even if only as a returner... but we see him as a wing back and receiver both outside on the perimeter and in the slot... just saying his versatility brings options to the team... Head Coach loves his vigorous style of work, off the field and on the field...
 

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Ok. So obviously they are looking to upgrade over DENZEL MIMS (and not Corey Davis or Elijah Moore).

Sign a FA WR.
Re-Sign Braxton Berrios.
Draft a WR first two rounds.

And Denzel Mims then becomes a 6th WR on the depth chart, correct?

are you really trying to debate or disagree with me on this?
they are NOT looking to upgrade over anyone they are looking to improve the offense...
do you NOT get that?
Denzel Mims will have his chance to develop his craft this off season...
if they draft someone, that person will compete...
if they sign someone that person will compete...
you think they were happy with Corey Davis and all his drop passes?
do you think they were happy that Elijah Moore spent all that time on IR?
there is no reason they can not just improve the receiving room with more talent...
Jamison Crowder, Keelan Cole are FAs and are unlikely to return they would be replacing those talents not upgrading over someone else?
 

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But I'll leave this Denzel Mims talk alone because imo he's done for and wouldn't be shocked to see him traded or downright cut.
again your point of view...
the reality is the GM, HC, OC, WR coaches say different and believe he has potential so why can you NOT accept that and hope for the best rather bitch and complain that he is worthless?
they would of cut him mid season if they thought otherwise his contract would be a blimp of dead loss, they could of traded him some dumb team would of taken him I mean we traded Daniel Brown for LDT, then Brown got cut and re-signed with us... So even Mims would get potential return even if it was a conditional pick...

you sir, are lost
I get you have your ideals, your thoughts but reality is what is important... if the team says he is going to be here then you have to believe them until he is not... you don't give your consensus of a player that dealt with everything he dealt with this year and say he is done...
 

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I'm not lost.
You are.
Food poisoning lost 26 pounds in the off season...
Had to nutrition back the weight he lost, then get in game shape... But of course in Madden you could do that with a simple edit...
Had the Flu (Normal Flu)... But again in Madden don't have to worry about getting sick...
Had Covid (19) and was out for three weeks... And again in Madden they don't have Covid injuries...

In what time during this past year did he have the time to really focus on his game? In what time did he have to focus on studying the game plan? In what time did he build chemistry with his quarterback? Tell me, I am waiting...

You can not put it against him for what happened to him... These were not excuses this is life...
 

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It's weird to me.
you know what is weird to me, a player never got his chance to get on the field (practice that is to really hone his craft) but was given opportunities to play but when he was open never thrown the ball, but when the QB had no other options tried to force the issue at him...

he lined up correctly got flagged but it was Berrios who didn't line up properly and Denzel counted correctly that there was not enough players on the line of scrimmage... how bout that phantom block in the back call when there was no defender within ten yards of him... how bout his awareness knowing he was pushed out the back of the endzone but knew he could not be the first to touch the ball but defended it from being a turnover... people don't take into account all those positive plays..

at the end of the day they want him to be able to line up in the slot, on the perimeter and be able to run all routes not just the go route... they want him to run slant routes and crossing routes... they want him to be able to run a stick route, and come back routes but he is lazy on his cuts not because he can not do it is because he never had to do it so it is new to him and consistency is a major thing at this level...

building continuity on the practice field translates to game day chemistry but if he is not practicing to where he is improving then how is he going to do it during games? they believe his functional strength is lacking because of the food poisoning last off season... the flu which took his normal every day strength away then having Covid but you know better than me and is so smart throwing stats in my face that you are the top poster of all those other forums you were on until reason you are no longer there for...
 

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i like the fact that you stated Carter was "an every down back".
I hate when backs get pigeon holed as a "utility", "change of pace", or "scat back" because they don't check the height and weight boxes.

they come in all sizes!

We do need a monster type of back who can do some tough sledding against teams like BUFF, BALT, PITT.
perhaps, Hassan Haskins out of MI.
I wonder if Bawden can be that guy. He looks like a thumper, but I only saw 1 play all season where he caught a pass and had good YAC, but I never saw a handoff to him
 

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FA is not about spending big bucks. Its about finding Gems. Its about looking for players who may have underachieved in different schemes or are looking to bust out. GM's would love to get Mims to see what his true potential really is. I just think he needs confidence. I don't want JD to spend big in FA. I want him to spend smartly. We can carry over to spend the year after when we make our run to the Superbowl.
 

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Bawden is the tough bastard that every team needs. He had a couple of moments in the Bills game that had me stoked. Not sure that he can run the ball, but he can certainly block.
 

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Ok. You seem to love Dotson a lot. You also mentioned JuJu as a potential FA.

Are your friend's at Florham Park telling you the Jets are going to go after a FA WR and go after Dotson too?
They fit what the team is looking for and that’s why they were mentioned.
 

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They fit what the team is looking for and that’s why they were mentioned.
he doesn't get that he just want fuel to argue...
I like a lot of players but he tells me I like this player or that player because I make a case for them because of their fit to our team...
 

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Is Ju Ju Smith really a #1 receiver at the NFL level ? I like this player but I don’t believe he’s what we need . I’m looking for something special, our own new version of the late Maynard . I want someone to grow with This QB and be a “Batman” to Moore’s “robin” .
I wanna rebuild the team Walt Michaels gave to the late Joe Walton with a better Richard Todd. Am I crazy?
 

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Is Ju Ju Smith really a #1 receiver at the NFL level ? I like this player but I don’t believe he’s what we need . I’m looking for something special, our own new version of the late Maynard . I want someone to grow with This QB and be a “Batman” to Moore’s “robin” .
I wanna rebuild the team Walt Michaels gave to the late Joe Walton with a better Richard Todd. Am I crazy?
debatable but in this offense he could be the guy to take off the top of defenses allowing Corey Davis to work the middle end and let Elijah be more dynamic in catch n runs...
 
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