Over-reaction to the loss

hatnlvr

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Ok so I'm trying my best to "NOT" to have the Same Ole Jets mentality and overreact to every single loss with doom and gloom. To be fair for the second week in a row, we lost a game BUT and it's a huge BUT, our offense wasn't on and we still had a chance to win both games in the end. A couple of plays here and there and we are 4-1 instead of 2-3, and we are only 1 game out of the division lead with 12 more games to play.

I always expected the offense to start out slow and start to find their groove and comfort around mid-season as this a new group that has never played together. Some early success gave some false hope for a faster start, but in my opinion the offense is right where it should be at this point (we are on at times and way off at times, that should have always been expected).

The defense was getting gashed in the first half, but settled in nicely in the 2nd half (sans for the 12th man on the field, gifting Jefferson so many non-calls that even the Minnesota fans were chiming in about how the refs were bailing them out!). The problem with the defense is we still can't stop the run and now we can't rush the passer either. Will has been having a breakout season, but he is now seeing double teams and teams have adjusted to his speed. Get Reddick in and IMO that isn't going to help much, as just like Will he is a speed guy off the edge and cannot play the run, so having them both on the field will get us exposed. If JJ was still healthy it would be a perfect pairing, but with Clemons out there we are just hurting! As strong as Clemons is, he can't get to the QB, and he is just clueless in the run game (constantly finding himself out of position and over running the play).

So the same can be said for the Offense. We started slow and looked just putrid (that's on the Coaching Staff). That being said, they found a groove in the second half and made a game of it (thank you Aaron Rodgers!). Credit to the Vikings, coming into the game they were #1 in the league for AYPC, so they have a very stingy secondary and I wasn't expecting Garrett to have a breakout game yesterday with that defense. But look what happened, AaRod and Garrett found a way to get it going. No he didn't have the explosive plays, but he was getting the ball and making things happen!!!! That was HUGE! It wasn't efficient, but 13 catches for 101 yards and a TD was HUGE!

Our inability to run the football falls square on the coaching staff! They have to do a better job and scheming to get these guys running lanes, and the offense needs to nut up and impose their will on other teams!!! Running game is about mentality and will, and we're playing soft out there!! Add to that, I have ZERO faith in the CS ability to evaluate talent and use it accordingly (it's like they are playing Madden and just calling plays, with ZERO comprehension of the personnel and their abilities). Breece may call himself a beast, but since his rookie season I've been screaming at the top of my lungs that the guy is worthless in short yardage situations!! He is not a smash back, he is a HB and should be used as such. I don't care what his size says he should be able to do, the fucking guy goes down if an eyelash hits him!!!! He is only a threat in the open field, the only thing he's capable of grinding is his finger nails!!!!

Now all that said, I think we're really on pace to turn this around and start winning consistently. JD needs to go get Shaq Lawson or trade for a solid DE to pair with the speed, because that will be our Achilles if he doesn't fix it. Hackett needs to move his ass up into the sky box and stop playing buddy buddy on the sidelines with Rodgers. Time to earn your paycheck, stop asking the team to go win on talent and find ways to scheme guys open (I'm sick of watching other teams having receivers running wide open all game long, while every throw Rodgers has to make is a tight window throw). The Viking ran a ton of bunch formations and crisscrossed our defenders to death (even having blind ass Quincy run Sauce completely over and concuss him). Use some imagination already!!!

Let's go Jets!! The season is young and we definitely have the talent to get this going!
 

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The Jets got back into the game after Aaron Jones got injured and the Vikings couldn't string first downs together. The Vikings really helped the Jets by throwing low percentage long bombs rather than some shorter stuff to move the chains, and of course there was the marginal 'roughing the punter' call. But the biggest problem is the offensive line, which can't run block and isn't that good at pass pro. Despite the run blocking it is astounding what has happened to Breece Hall, who looks like he should be inactive to give Izzy a chance. Sauce has been reading his own press clippings and Garrett has no synchronism with Rodgers.

They need to release Hackett now; if Rodgers doesn't like it he can retire and we'll roll with Tyrod and Martinez, which is still better than what we had last year. But they will do nothing and we will be 2-5 to go to Foxboro.
 

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This team is going to implode. The defense is starting to get frustrated. They will turn on each other with another loss. IMO, they will be 2-5 before Pats game. The coaching staff is one of the worst in the league. Drastic changes need to be made. I don't think Adams fixes this offense. Another year and another poorly assembled OL. Rodgers looks washed and injured. Cousins tore his achilles and throws for 500 yards. Rodgers can barely hit 200 yards. This is just a poorly constructed team by JD. It might be a QB away, but Rodgers won't consistently be that QB.
 

hatnlvr

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This team is going to implode. The defense is starting to get frustrated. They will turn on each other with another loss. IMO, they will be 2-5 before Pats game. The coaching staff is one of the worst in the league. Drastic changes need to be made. I don't think Adams fixes this offense. Another year and another poorly assembled OL. Rodgers looks washed and injured. Cousins tore his achilles and throws for 500 yards. Rodgers can barely hit 200 yards. This is just a poorly constructed team by JD. It might be a QB away, but Rodgers won't consistently be that QB.
LOL "like to harp on the negative" :ROFLMAO:

I get it, battered wife syndrome, so everything is the end of the world. I don't think this is justified (especially at this point and only being 1 game out of division lead). We look good at times and lost at times. It's not like everything is negative, and they are showing signs of figuring it out.
 

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LOL "like to harp on the negative" :ROFLMAO:

I get it, battered wife syndrome, so everything is the end of the world. I don't think this is justified (especially at this point and only being 1 game out of division lead). We look good at times and lost at times. It's not like everything is negative, and they are showing signs of figuring it out.
I agree but lets give him credit on one thing
Tebow cant throw lol
 

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LOL "like to harp on the negative" :ROFLMAO:

I get it, battered wife syndrome, so everything is the end of the world. I don't think this is justified (especially at this point and only being 1 game out of division lead). We look good at times and lost at times. It's not like everything is negative, and they are showing signs of figuring it out.
Hope is not a strategy. I look at results. The Jets are 2-3 in a bad division. Daniel Jones has better stats than Rodgers. The OL is garbage at pass blocking and run blocking. Breece fell off a cliff because of the OL. Worst HC in the league. Defense can't stop the run and offense can't run the ball. Sauce sucks. Lazard can't catch. Rodgers is injured. The only game they looked good was against the Pats. Did I miss anything?? Can you give me a list of the positives please??
 

hatnlvr

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Hope is not a strategy. I look at results. The Jets are 2-3 in a bad division. Daniel Jones has better stats than Rodgers. The OL is garbage at pass blocking and run blocking. Breece fell off a cliff because of the OL. Worst HC in the league. Defense can't stop the run and offense can't run the ball. Sauce sucks. Lazard can't catch. Rodgers is injured. The only game they looked good was against the Pats. Did I miss anything?? Can you give me a list of the positives please??
Take your fandom and expectations out of the equation. You really mean to tell me there is not a single positive you can take away from that game???

I watch a ton of games (I play fantasy football, so I end up watching my players), and every single complaint you have stated there can be said for every single team in the league at some point in time (in every single game).
 

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Take your fandom and expectations out of the equation. You really mean to tell me there is not a single positive you can take away from that game???

I watch a ton of games (I play fantasy football, so I end up watching my players), and every single complaint you have stated there can be said for every single team in the league at some point in time (in every single game).
Yes the defense was better without Sauce.
 

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Surprisingly, no mention of Quinnen Williams yet he has been virtually invisible this year. Admittedly, I just saw the boxscore for the Vikings game, but unless I'm missing something he has been a huge disappointment this year.
 

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Surprisingly, no mention of Quinnen Williams yet he has been virtually invisible this year. Admittedly, I just saw the boxscore for the Vikings game, but unless I'm missing something he has been a huge disappointment this year.
He is double every play and even getting chipped by a third on many plays. He is the only line man worth anything vs the Run and he's being neutralized by opponents. Think he is dealing with a shoulder injury too
 

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Take your fandom and expectations out of the equation. You really mean to tell me there is not a single positive you can take away from that game???

I watch a ton of games (I play fantasy football, so I end up watching my players), and every single complaint you have stated there can be said for every single team in the league at some point in time (in every single game).
Remember this was supposed to be the season where we finally became winners, and we went 'all-in' to achieve this. Why on this very site some who had been swigging ayahuasca with Aaron Rodgers said they would settle for nothing less than an AFC Championship. Those of us who are more familiar with the Way Of The Jets tried to calm them.

Sure we can take away positives, Morstead is having a good season and Smith and AVT are not injured yet. But the Chiefs are taking away 'W's instead of positives.
 

hatnlvr

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Surprisingly, no mention of Quinnen Williams yet he has been virtually invisible this year. Admittedly, I just saw the boxscore for the Vikings game, but unless I'm missing something he has been a huge disappointment this year.
My sons and I were talking about that during the game. They are even moving him to DE at times, and he has been completely invisible out there.
 

hatnlvr

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Remember this was supposed to be the season where we finally became winners, and we went 'all-in' to achieve this. Why on this very site some who had been swigging ayahuasca with Aaron Rodgers said they would settle for nothing less than an AFC Championship. Those of us who are more familiar with the Way Of The Jets tried to calm them.

Sure we can take away positives, Morstead is having a good season and Smith and AVT are not injured yet. But the Chiefs are taking away 'W's instead of positives.
I totally agree with this, but expecting them to come out day 1 and just dominate was never a real expectation IMO. We have holes (but most of us knew that going in), but I still feel like they can get this going and pretty quick.

We're about 1/3 of the way through the season. Lets see where we are at midseason.
 

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Surprisingly, no mention of Quinnen Williams yet he has been virtually invisible this year. Admittedly, I just saw the boxscore for the Vikings game, but unless I'm missing something he has been a huge disappointment this year.
Been calling him Quinnen Wilkerson or Quincy's brother for weeks.
 
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