Petty-Williams----Powell & maybe Mo....Throw the rest out that are over 25

[butterscotch]

We got to give some of the young guys a chance but how can anyone give pig mac a pass on who he has bought into this team. His FA,s are bad.


Even Quincy Enunwa is Ok because the rest of our WR,s suck the big apple...Now he may get better but that is a reach


What I saw last night was bad players

 

[lounap23]

We got to give some of the young guys a chance but how can anyone give pig mac a pass on who he has bought into this team. His FA,s are bad.


Even Quincy Enunwa is Ok because the rest of our WR,s suck the big apple...Now he may get better but that is a reach


What I saw last night was bad players

Dude you are kidding yourself if you think Enunwa is just OK... He is blossoming into a great player.. Not only is his receiving skills very good he is a great blocker in the run game... Overall not alot of WR's with his talent... He blocks DLineman straight up.... And he can torch CB's....

Keepers are:

Enunwa
Powell
Petty ( just because he needs time playing)
Anderson
Williams
Lee
Mo
Burris
Miles

 

[butterscotch]

Dude you are kidding yourself if you think Enunwa is just OK... He is blossoming into a great player.. Not only is his receiving skills very good he is a great blocker in the run game... Overall not alot of WR's with his talent... He blocks DLineman straight up.... And he can torch CB's....

Keepers are:

Enunwa
Powell
Petty ( just because he needs time playing)
Anderson
Williams
Lee
Mo
Burris
Miles

I'll go with your list but some won't be on it next year & yes keep Enunwa & lets see if he becomes a very good WR,s...get Marshall off the team he may get better

 

[SackExchange]

Dude you are kidding yourself if you think Enunwa is just OK... He is blossoming into a great player.. Not only is his receiving skills very good he is a great blocker in the run game... Overall not alot of WR's with his talent... He blocks DLineman straight up.... And he can torch CB's....

Keepers are:

Enunwa
Powell
Petty ( just because he needs time playing)
Anderson
Williams
Lee
Mo
Burris
Miles

Winters has to be on the list. Peake. Hack, to see what he has. I'd like to see if Marcus Williams was more than a 2015 flash-in-the-pan. Keep all the young LBs, the Mac picks, to see who can develop beyond Lee.

 

[jets82]

Great post! They need to blow this whole thing up and being that they do, we should all expect some losing season with the young guys but thats no different then what we have now and been dealing with for 4-5 years. Only a few (VERY FEW) players over 25 should remain and Powell is one of them. Unless we strike gold in the next few drafts, FA or trades with a trio of QB, RB and WR and DE (which we already have in Williams), LB (might have that in Lee) and CB (Burris ain't half bad) then expect 3-4 years (maybe alot more) of losing Jets faithful but it will be tolerable with a young and building team. Not this old man shit we have now.

 

[lounap23]

Winters has to be on the list. Peake. Hack, to see what he has. I'd like to see if Marcus Williams was more than a 2015 flash-in-the-pan. Keep all the young LBs, the Mac picks, to see who can develop beyond Lee.

Yea you're right Winters, Peake, Hack and Williams as well.


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[SackExchange]

Great post! They need to blow this whole thing up and being that they do, we should all expect some losing season with the young guys but thats no different then what we have now and been dealing with for 4-5 years. Only a few (VERY FEW) players over 25 should remain and Powell is one of them. Unless we strike gold in the next few drafts, FA or trades with a trio of QB, RB and WR and DE (which we already have in Williams), LB (might have that in Lee) and CB (Burris ain't half bad) then expect 3-4 years (maybe alot more) of losing Jets faithful but it will be tolerable with a young and building team. Not this old man shit we have now.

I'd be willing to deal with a few losing seasons in a row, if I knew it was building toward something. I'd rather build the foundation right than try to pour money into aging free agents to plug gaps for a wild card run.

That said, I'm not sure there are that many Jets fans who would agree with us. Many are impatient, and expect the team to win a Super Bowl right now, refusing to accept it taking time.

Still, if I'm going to watch a team lose 10 games a year, I'd rather it be with a bunch of kids who are improving than with a bunch of old veterans who are collecting a Woody pension.

 

[butterscotch]

I'd be willing to deal with a few losing seasons in a row, if I knew it was building toward something. I'd rather build the foundation right than try to pour money into aging free agents to plug gaps for a wild card run.

That said, I'm not sure there are that many Jets fans who would agree with us. Many are impatient, and expect the team to win a Super Bowl right now, refusing to accept it taking time.

Still, if I'm going to watch a team lose 10 games a year, I'd rather it be with a bunch of kids who are improving than with a bunch of old veterans who are collecting a Woody pension.

I agree

 

[jetgreen13]

I'd be willing to deal with a few losing seasons in a row, if I knew it was building toward something.

honestly, i don't think you would get much opposition from the core members of JFU with that approach..

however, time waits for no man, woman or child.. i would at least like to be around for a couple more legitimate jet superbowl runs before i'm to old to still be passionate about it..

not a gambler, but i'd bet serious money bowles is not the guy to get us to where we are trying to get to if given the chance..

everything about the guy absolutely screams the exact opposite, to me anyway..

 

[jets82]

I'd be willing to deal with a few losing seasons in a row, if I knew it was building toward something. I'd rather build the foundation right than try to pour money into aging free agents to plug gaps for a wild card run.

That said, I'm not sure there are that many Jets fans who would agree with us. Many are impatient, and expect the team to win a Super Bowl right now, refusing to accept it taking time.

Still, if I'm going to watch a team lose 10 games a year, I'd rather it be with a bunch of kids who are improving than with a bunch of old veterans who are collecting a Woody pension.

I'm with you 1,000,000,000 percent

 

[SackExchange]

[/B]honestly, i don't think you would get much opposition from the core members of JFU with that approach..

however, time waits for no man, woman or child.. i would at least like to be around for a couple more legitimate jet superbowl runs before i'm to old to still be passionate about it..

not a gambler, but i'd bet serious money bowles is not the guy to get us to where we are trying to get to if given the chance..

everything about the guy absolutely screams the exact opposite, to me anyway..

It's a matter of philosophy. Would you rather the team became immediately competitive, and even took a couple possible deep runs like under Rex, but knowing the foundation was not sustainable long-term? Or would you rather have to suffer through a few seasons, but knowing that at the end of it, there is a much better chance to actually achieve that goal that any Jets fan shy of age 50 has not seen?

I've seen the team make deep runs, under Rex, Parcells, and even Michaels. I've seen wild cards. I've even seen a few division titles. But I've never seen the Jets even make a Super Bowl. And I'm 42.

My opinion is, screw being competitive. I've seen that before. I want the team to be legitimate, and am willing to suffer short-term to see it happen long-term.

 

[Fudbutter]

I'd be willing to deal with a few losing seasons in a row, if I knew it was building toward something. I'd rather build the foundation right than try to pour money into aging free agents to plug gaps for a wild card run.

That said, I'm not sure there are that many Jets fans who would agree with us. Many are impatient, and expect the team to win a Super Bowl right now, refusing to accept it taking time.

Still, if I'm going to watch a team lose 10 games a year, I'd rather it be with a bunch of kids who are improving than with a bunch of old veterans who are collecting a Woody pension.

To expect a Super Bowl or even a home playoff game (gee that would be fun), one has to realize that the condition of this team right in now dictates that it will take years and a significant amount of luck to get there.

Truth of the matter is that the Jets are a bad business. If there was no revenue sharing or PSL scam, the corporation would be filing an 11 before you can say Trump Casino. How many times does one have to go through this until you realize that the Jets are the St. Louis Browns to the Giants' Cardinals?

It is too late for those of us that go back decades, but if you are young enough, the only smart move is getting on the Giants ST waiting list now with the hope that you will get them in time to see a home playoff game in your lifetime.

 

[SackExchange]

To expect a Super Bowl or even a home playoff game (gee that would be fun), one has to realize that the condition of this team right in now dictates that it will take years and a significant amount of luck to get there.

Truth of the matter is that the Jets are a bad business. If there was no revenue sharing or PSL scam, the corporation would be filing an 11 before you can say Trump Casino. How many times does one have to go through this until you realize that the Jets are the St. Louis Browns to the Giants' Cardinals?

It is too late for those of us that go back decades, but if you are young enough, the only smart move is getting on the Giants ST waiting list now with the hope that you will get them in time to see a home playoff game in your lifetime.

Well, it took Parcells two years to go from Kotite to a 12-4 divion champ a half away from a SB.

 

[Fudbutter]

Well, it took Parcells two years to go from Kotite to a 12-4 divion champ a half away from a SB.

different times Sack. Gee I wish I had your optimism on this.

 

[jetgreen13]

It's a matter of philosophy. Would you rather the team became immediately competitive, and even took a couple possible deep runs like under Rex, but knowing the foundation was not sustainable long-term? Or would you rather have to suffer through a few seasons, but knowing that at the end of it, there is a much better chance to actually achieve that goal that any Jets fan shy of age 50 has not seen?

I've seen the team make deep runs, under Rex, Parcells, and even Michaels. I've seen wild cards. I've even seen a few division titles. But I've never seen the Jets even make a Super Bowl. And I'm 42.

My opinion is, screw being competitive. I've seen that before. I want the team to be legitimate, and am willing to suffer short-term to see it happen long-term.

i'm in the same boat.. i'm also in my 40's & watched all of the runs you spoke of, without seeing a jet super bowl..

however, i think you missed my point.. i'm also willing to wait for this to be rebuilt the right way.. my point was, i have absolutely no faith bowles is the guy to rebuild it..

 

[SackExchange]

different times Sack. Gee I wish I had your optimism on this.

It's the only way to survive the tough times and remain sane.

 

[SackExchange]

i'm in the same boat.. i'm also in my 40's & watched all of the runs you spoke of, without seeing a jet super bowl..

however, i think you missed my point.. i'm also willing to wait for this to be rebuilt the right way.. my point was, i have absolutely no faith bowles is the guy to rebuild it..

And that is fair. I'm not ready 100% to make that same determination, but I have seen plenty that troubles me.

 

[gastineau]

Scotch, Jets do have to change from Coaching to Players. But I say start with Coordinators first. Gailey watching his Offense in practice & not correcting or helping Players before games is just too stupid! Example is our QB's telegraphing their passes & not teaching Petty-Hackenburg to not tell who they are passing to. Vet QB is too late & cant learn. Gailey not seeing Offensive tells by Players & stopping those before it gets into games!!! Tells by Center & QB by Center lifting head up & then down & snap the ball or QB lifting his leg for snapping the ball! WTF??? Does Gailey think Great Defensive players dont look & see that? Thats how Suh & Dorkfins Defense was so quick to Petty because of TELL's. Defense DC running one on one coverage knowing Wilk-Richardson-&sometimes Williams make ZERO effort to QB. One on one coverage is fine if you got a D Front pressuring & getting to QB's & thats something Jets Front isnt doing all season. You cant blow up Jets all you want, but if this type of Coaching is still there for Jets ...IT WILL BE THE SAME!! Clean house of Players but do it smartly. I might keep Richardson by franchise & bench him to get a trade. I would not allow that J azz Richardson to get away with doing that to hurt Jets trade value for him.Jets keeping him on bench another year HURT HIS value.I'd make an EXAMPLE of Richardson showing all Players that think of doing, acting & playing like this, Jets Org will do this to you. OC-DC MUST GO & maybe Bowles who doesnt have control over both Coordinators! Thats the big issue with Bowles is lack of authority over his Coaches & its shows because Players total disrespect of Coordinators & Bowles.

 

[lounap23]

It's a matter of philosophy. Would you rather the team became immediately competitive, and even took a couple possible deep runs like under Rex, but knowing the foundation was not sustainable long-term? Or would you rather have to suffer through a few seasons, but knowing that at the end of it, there is a much better chance to actually achieve that goal that any Jets fan shy of age 50 has not seen?

I've seen the team make deep runs, under Rex, Parcells, and even Michaels. I've seen wild cards. I've even seen a few division titles. But I've never seen the Jets even make a Super Bowl. And I'm 42.

My opinion is, screw being competitive. I've seen that before. I want the team to be legitimate, and am willing to suffer short-term to see it happen long-term.

I'm 45 and have seen all of that too... I agree I think we have some very talented young guys on this team and its time to ride with them.

Below is the core of the team... We need Petty or Hack to be the guy if not then we will be top 10 picking again in 2018 and get a QB

QB - Petty and Hack
RB - Powell
WR - Enunwa, Anderson, Peake,
OL - Winters, Carpenter and only for RT QVale and SHell
TE - ASJ Utilize this guy he is talented

DL - Williams, Simon, MO
LB - Jenkins and Lee
CB - Burris, Willams
S - Pryor, Middleton and Miles

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

It's gonna be painful to watch, but I'm supportive of a tear down. Bye bye Brandon Marshall, Marcus Gilchrist, Darrelle Revis, David Harris, Sheldon Richardson, Breno Giacomini, Nick Mangold, Ryan Clady, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and maybe even Matt Forte.

The 2017 draft should focus heavily on drafting OT's and a Center. Then 2018 can be more defense heavy. Secondary and LB's. We can get an extended look at Petty and Hackenberg for two years to be sure of what they've got. Forget Trubisky or Kizer.