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I apologize for disagreeing with you guys. I guess I will always be stuck in that mindset that 11-5 is better than 7-9.
 
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I agree with that. But more often than not, the best team does not win the championship.

More often than not, though, the best team does end up with the best record.

"You are what your record says you are." Weird bounces, bad calls, tough breaks, a hot player, that can happen in the playoffs. Over the course of a 16-week season, though, those bounces, calls, and hot streaks even out, which reaffirms what Parcells said.

So, yes, I want the Jets desperately to win a SB. But I'm not about to say 10-6 was a bad season because they didn't make the playoffs, whereas if they had played in the NFC East or AFC South, they would have won the division with that record.

Four teams went 10-6 this year. Three qualified for the playoffs. Were those three 10-6 records that much better than the Jets to where they had good seasons, and the Jets didn't?

We've kind of beaten this to death but...................(there's always a but)...........LOL

You mentioned earlier that like myself, you are a big hockey fan. As you well know hockey plays 7 games in their play offs. In theory this should insure that the best team wins the play off series.

I can't count the number of times I have witnessed a goal tender get hot in the play offs, and just stone wall what IMO was a better team. In the NFL it is really 2 seasons. Many, many times we have seen teams be bad in the beginning of the season, then a light suddenly goes on, get hot, and make a run at the playoffs. Are they the bad team from the first half of the season, or are they the good team from the second half? You have to make the play offs to find out

Just the nature of sports.
 
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I apologize for disagreeing with you guys. I guess I will always be stuck in that mindset that 11-5 is better than 7-9.

What's to be sorry about? That's your opinion. That's why we have message boards. IMO Every body acted mature............Almost
 

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We've kind of beaten this to death but...................(there's always a but)...........LOL

You mentioned earlier that like myself, you are a big hockey fan. As you well know hockey plays 7 games in their play offs. In theory this should insure that the best team wins the play off series.

I can't count the number of times I have witnessed a goal tender get hot in the play offs, and just stone wall what IMO was a better team. In the NFL it is really 2 seasons. Many, many times we have seen teams be bad in the beginning of the season, then a light suddenly go on, get hot, and make a run at the playoffs. Are they the bad team from the first half of the season, or are they the good team from the second half? You have to make the play offs to find out

Just the nature of sports.

That is true. And yes, in a best of 7, it should (and sometimes does) balance out more.

I'm fine with you, and the argument that it should ultimately be about January and February. All I'm saying is that there is some value to those 16 games they play before the playoffs, and that those games have value beyond just playoff seeding.

I am disappointed that the Jets didn't make the playoffs, go on some huge run, and win the Super Bowl. I want that every year. But I also think a team can still have a good season, even if they don't make the playoffs. And that making the playoffs doesn't make a team necessarily good.

That is why, while I agree that I am not satisfied with the Jets' season in terms of ultimate success, I do believe they had a good season. Maybe that's where I differ from you guys, in that I think the Jets had a good season despite missing the playoffs.
 

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What's to be sorry about? That's your opinion. That's why we have message boards. IMO Every body acted mature............Almost

I got dragged down into it as much as anyone. I should have bit my tongue when I saw my opinion was in the vast minority. I shouldn't have escalated it the way I did, and that's on me.
 
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That is true. And yes, in a best of 7, it should (and sometimes does) balance out more.

I'm fine with you, and the argument that it should ultimately be about January and February. All I'm saying is that there is some value to those 16 games they play before the playoffs, and that those games have value beyond just playoff seeding.

I am disappointed that the Jets didn't make the playoffs, go on some huge run, and win the Super Bowl. I want that every year. But I also think a team can still have a good season, even if they don't make the playoffs. And that making the playoffs doesn't make a team necessarily good.

That is why, while I agree that I am not satisfied with the Jets' season in terms of ultimate success, I do believe they had a good season. Maybe that's where I differ from you guys, in that I think the Jets had a good season despite missing the playoffs.

I've said many times this was a fun season. I enjoyed it. The nature of how it ended, losing to a ,IMO, inferior team, twice. Kind of took the glow off it.

It's like being with a beautiful woman who fools around. You had a lot of fun with her, but in the end it ends in a lot of pain. :)




Yeah, yeah I know I'm being dramatic.
 

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I've said many times this was a fun season. I enjoyed it. The nature of how it ended, losing to a ,IMO, inferior team, twice. Kind of took the glow off it.

It's like being with a beautiful woman who fools around. You had a lot of fun with her, but in the end it ends in a lot of pain. :)




Yeah, yeah I know I'm being dramatic.

If she fools around, you wouldn't want her long-term, anyway. And you likely got what you wanted out of her already. :global (47):

For me, this season was like a kid trying to reach a cookie jar on the counter. He moved some blocks in place to climb up, building a good foundation, but in his last attempt to get up to the counter, he slipped.

Disappointing. Ultimately unsuccessful. But a lot of progress toward reaching the cookie jar. So no cookies, but a pretty good day.
 
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If she fools around, you wouldn't want her long-term, anyway. And you likely got what you wanted out of her already. :global (47):

For me, this season was like a kid trying to reach a cookie jar on the counter. He moved some blocks in place to climb up, building a good foundation, but in his last attempt to get up to the counter, he slipped.

Disappointing. Ultimately unsuccessful. But a lot of progress toward reaching the cookie jar. So no cookies, but a pretty good day.


Maybe we should take this to the , "Vasectomy doesn't stop Cro" thread




Just kidding, just kidding
 

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Have faith CH. The most important person on a football team is the GM. He's the guy that feeds the HC talent. For almost 20 years the Jets have had book keepers selecting the talent. Their drafts, and FA have looked like book keepers were doing them.

Woody seems to have finally gotten it right. He hired a proven scout to run his team, and has a competent book keeper in Jackie Davidson to make magic with the numbers. If Macc is what I think he is the team will shortly have a lot of talent and depth on it. They will be able to use what the Pats have done. "Next man up". And get good results.

Of course the wild card is Brady. With a lot of luck, (pacts with Satan :) and a good amount of HGH, Brady may be the GOAT.

Pray for Petty, he has the tools, all the Jets need is divine intervention. :)

You are right. The fact that we finally have a football GM is encouraging and does offer some hope. You just have to remember that they still are the Jets and any time we have hope it is usually dashed pretty quickly.

brady and belichick have ruined football for me for the last 15 years. They need to stay around for another 16 years and suck for all 16 for me to feel like we got even. Any time they lose it feels good but it doesn't even begin to get us even.
 

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Tammila will be 39 on Aug 3 and thus in her 40th year when the 16 season starts


Neither Satan Incarnate the owner or Head Coach Lucifer or her domintrix Jizabella or her "body coach and her boyfriend Alejandro and not even drug dealer Gronk's illegal synthetic weed can cheat THAT clock

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I had to read that a few times. Thats pretty funny
 

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actually, as you well know, i've been right smack in the middle of this thread since it started, & this thread has gone viral..

one poster by my count was "super bowl or bust.."

that's why i think your being melodramatic..

again, the jets winning their 2nd super bowl would be the greatest moment as a sports fan for me.. where whould it be for you??

edit; baseball was my first love, sports wise as a kid & I have loved each & every yankee world series win i've been fortunate enough to have followed..

but it wouldn't trump another jets super bowl for me.. this from a grown ass man..

I went to UConn. I was there when Calhoun got there and after 1 1/2 years off I went back and graduated the year Gampel Pavillion was built. When I first got there the team stunk and you could buy tickets night of a game. When I graduated you had to be in a raffle for tickets. Phil Gambel and Cliff Robinson lived on my floor. It was a great time to be a UConn fan. When UConn won it's first championship over Duke, it was the happiest moment in the history of sports for me. Not only did we win a championship but we did it by beating Duke, a team that we hated. ALOT.

If the Jets won a superbowl , I hate to say it , but it would surpass that UConn win by a fair amount
 

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I used to have a summer cottage on Highland lake in Winsted that area is a real Mayberry RFD type of place..LOL

Nah not New Hartford. It has grown a lot. I grew up in Warren. A smaller town then any mentioned. We had a package store. A general store, sometimes, and a traffic light. That was it. But as a kid I had a great time wondering in the woods with my dog.

New Hartford is nothing like that.
 

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So since this is a Rex Ryan thread, let me ask another question that has nothing to do with Rex or Rob.

Who would you rather be a fan of? Cincinnati , who goes to the playoffs all the time and never wins a game or a team that just stinks and wins 3 or 4 games every year.
 

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So since this is a Rex Ryan thread, let me ask another question that has nothing to do with Rex or Rob.

Who would you rather be a fan of? Cincinnati , who goes to the playoffs all the time and never wins a game or a team that just stinks and wins 3 or 4 games every year.

I want to feel my team is doing something right; if they aren't hitting on all cylinders (talent, coaching, support/ownership) then I hope the drama will be about my team doing the right things for a comeback. Obviously the Jets appear on an upswing in terms of those criteria.
 
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Going 10-6 = very good season
Get to Playoffs = excellent season
Get to Conf championship game = terrific season
Get to Superbowl = fantastic season
Win Superbowl = historic season

To me there is no either/or, win/lose, on/off trigger. There are varying levels of success that need to be acknowleged, unless a person is an all-or-nothing type of fan, where anything less than a Superbowl win is an abject failure.

I'm not one of those fans.

As you can tell, I'm starting to feel better about it, thanks....
 
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