Seattle had the Super Bowl won, it was in the bag, and they gave it away

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hi and welcome but don't forget those stats don't matter when it comes to the sb. I am sure he would have gave a little extra for that.


Long time no see UC. If you go back and look at the play by play, there were a number of instances in the game where NE held Lynch to 1 yard or less, and that was with their "base" defense. On that last play, NE lined up with 4DL and 4 LBs against Seattle's 3WR set. So, you had a stacked box with 8 defenders on a goal line stand and one on one coverage on the WRs. The play was there, Butler or whatever his name was just made a hell of a play by avoiding the pick and jumping the route.


Here's a pic of it.:

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Long time no see UC. If you go back and look at the play by play, there were a number of instances in the game where NE held Lynch to 1 yard or less, and that was with their "base" defense. On that last play, NE lined up with 4DL and 4 LBs against Seattle's 3WR set. So, you had a stacked box with 8 defenders on a goal line stand and one on one coverage on the WRs. The play was there, Butler or whatever his name was just made a hell of a play by avoiding the pick and jumping the route.


Here's a pic of it.:

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i don't care if pats put 53 men at the line of scrimmage when you have lynch as your back you run it 3 times up the gut right at wilfork screw him.
 

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Who cares now!! They cheated to get there and I will always know that. I will just turn off NFLN and ESPN for 6 months and not worry about it.
 
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Who cares now!! They cheated to get there and I will always know that. I will just turn off NFLN and ESPN for 6 months and not worry about it.

yeah right you know you want to see them get a slap on the wrist for their deflategate
 

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Who cares now!! They cheated to get there and I will always know that. I will just turn off NFLN and ESPN for 6 months and not worry about it.

yea - I am not watching any NFL TV coverage. Just finding my content online. Cannot stand the Pats ass kissing
 

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yea - I am not watching any NFL TV coverage. Just finding my content online. Cannot stand the Pats ass kissing

I will only follow Jets stuff on this forum for next 6 months. I need a break. This has been the worst for me as a fan.
 

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Long time no see UC. If you go back and look at the play by play, there were a number of instances in the game where NE held Lynch to 1 yard or less, and that was with their "base" defense. On that last play, NE lined up with 4DL and 4 LBs against Seattle's 3WR set. So, you had a stacked box with 8 defenders on a goal line stand and one on one coverage on the WRs. The play was there, Butler or whatever his name was just made a hell of a play by avoiding the pick and jumping the route.


Here's a pic of it.:

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Good post and welcome. You have to try it in that situation and run it in. You had three plays, surely you can get one yard. Lynch just bulldozed his way to a first down and was just short. He was hungry for that TD!
 
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Good post and welcome. You have to try it in that situation and run it in. You had three plays, surely you can get one yard. Lynch just bulldozed his way to a first down and was just short. He was hungry for that TD!


Thanks for the welcome Elias.

Posted the stats, but Lynch was 1 for 5 this year from the 1 yard line. Zero yards gained on 2 of the plays, and lost yardage on the other 2. Just because he's "Beast Mode" on most the field doesn't mean he can do the same thing in a goal line situation as the dynamics are very different.
 

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Thanks for the welcome Elias.

Posted the stats, but Lynch was 1 for 5 this year from the 1 yard line. Zero yards gained on 2 of the plays, and lost yardage on the other 2. Just because he's "Beast Mode" on most the field doesn't mean he can do the same thing in a goal line situation as the dynamics are very different.
i'm sorry but no way in the world did a quick slant make any sense at all.. i'm still stunned.. if seattle was hell bent on passing, why not a roll out with the option to throw the ball out of bounds??

wecome to NYJF BTW..
 
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i'm sorry but no way in the world did a quick slant make any sense at all.. i'm still stunned.. if seattle was hell bent on passing, why not a roll out with the option to throw the ball out of bounds??

wecome to NYJF BTW..



Thanks for the welcome.

I'm not saying that it was the best play to call, but I think it's a wild exaggeration to call it the worst call ever. Looking at the photo, the play was there. Can debate whether the throw was a 1/2 or 1/4 second late, if the ball was 6 inches too far inside, if the WR should have fought harder on the route instead of getting knocked off, or if you just have to give the defender props for making a heck of a play.
 

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Thanks for the welcome.

I'm not saying that it was the best play to call, but I think it's a wild exaggeration to call it the worst call ever. Looking at the photo, the play was there. Can debate whether the throw was a 1/2 or 1/4 second late, if the ball was 6 inches too far inside, if the WR should have fought harder on the route instead of getting knocked off, or if you just have to give the defender props for making a heck of a play.
i stand by my assertion that it was indeed the dumbest play call in NFL history.. any pass play that doesn't give your QB the opportunity to throw the ball away in that situation is ass backwards as far as i'm concerned..

you simply cannot lose a SB like that..

completely inexcusable..
 
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i stand by my assertion that it was indeed the dumbest play call in NFL history.. any pass play that doesn't give your QB the opportunity to throw the ball away in that situation is ass backwards as far as i'm concerned..

you simply cannot lose a SB like that..

completely inexcusable..


Have to ask, just what exactly prevented Wilson from throwing the ball away on this play ? If he didn't like what he saw, he could have easily sailed the ball over everyone's head. He could have rolled out beyond the tackle and thrown the ball away. He could have put the ball in the dirt at the WR's feet.

What it comes down to is that he didn't expect the Pats defender to be able to get around the pick and make a play on the ball.
 

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Have to ask, just what exactly prevented Wilson from throwing the ball away on this play ? If he didn't like what he saw, he could have easily sailed the ball over everyone's head. He could have rolled out beyond the tackle and thrown the ball away. He could have put the ball in the dirt at the WR's feet.

What it comes down to is that he didn't expect the Pats defender to be able to get around the pick and make a play on the ball.
a quick slant is exactly that.. "quick..." why put a young QB in harms way like that?? the kid didn't deserve to be put in that situation..

inexcusable..
 
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a quick slant is exactly that.. "quick..." why put a young QB in harms way like that?? the kid didn't deserve to be put in that situation..

inexcusable..


So "young" QBs who have 20+ games under their belt as a starting NFL QB, not to mention numerous playoff victories and a SB trophy shouldn't be asked to make a presnap read and decide whether or not to throw a quick slant ? Have to ask, are there any other types of standard NFL plays/passes that they shouldn't have to make?
 

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So "young" QBs who have 20+ games under their belt as a starting NFL QB, not to mention numerous playoff victories and a SB trophy shouldn't be asked to make a presnap read and decide whether or not to throw a quick slant ? Have to ask, are there any other types of standard NFL plays/passes that they shouldn't have to make?
devil's advocate notwithstanding, you seem to be very much in minority as far as defending the indefensible..

we'll have to agree to completely disagree..
 
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devil's advocate notwithstanding, you seem to be very much in minority as far as defending the indefensible..

we'll have to agree to completely disagree..


Fair enough. FTR, I'm not one who worries about what the rest of the world thinks. Rather, I tend to look at things and make my own decisions.


Had the play resulted in a TD, I'm relatively sure everyone would be talking about what a great call it was against a Goal Line D. And if the pass had been incomplete, we would be talking about how it was a good call as it saved a timeout and gave Seattle a chance to get off 2 running plays.


It's kind of like that TD pass right at the end of the first half. Very little time on the clock. Many coaches would have opted for a FG. It was very possible that Seattle could have run out of time and not scored any points. But, took a shot and went for the TD and were successful. If not for that call, the INT at the end of the game would have been moot as the score would have been 28-17 and a Lynch TD wouldn't have mattered.
 
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