Sheldon Richardson Suspended 4 games

NickSINYC

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If Sheldon was a Patriot.
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Doc I am sure Sheldon was slipped a spiked brownie by a Jets fan.
 

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I sure hope Williams is the real deal. We really need him to step up like Sheldon did his rookie year.
 

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I'm now 100% behind Dan Leberfeld's last issue on Sheldon in the latest issue of Jets Confidential. He suggested before this "bust", that the Jets pony up for Wilkerson, then trade Sheldon after next season. I'm totally down with his suggestion, because we won't be able to re-sign him anyway. Have Williams & Wilkerson @ DE and re-sign Big Snacks @ NT.

Go Jets...Cyborg
 

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I'm now 100% behind Dan Leberfeld's last issue on Sheldon in the latest issue of Jets Confidential. He suggested before this "bust", that the Jets pony up for Wilkerson, then trade Sheldon after next season. I'm totally down with his suggestion, because we won't be able to re-sign him anyway. Have Williams & Wilkerson @ DE and re-sign Big Snacks @ NT.
I think most of us would be for that now, Cy, the problem is, now if we sell Sheldon Richardson, AT BEST we can receive fifty-cents on the dollar, and we'll be lucky to even get that much.

Remember, this is not his first failed test, its only the first one we know of because the CBA demands confidentiality for his earlier failed tests. The league can't go public until it reaches the suspension stage, and that doesn't occur until his THIRD failed test, second if he fails to comply with the mandated treatment, but this is his second or third failed test, not the first, so we are dealing with a habitual, persistent offender of the leagues drug policy, not a first time offender.

The other problem is, he is now firmly planted in the leagues strict monitoring program, which is to say, for the rest of his career he will be tested randomly and regularly, which means the next step is ... see: Josh Gordon & Justin Blackman.

You add those things together and who in his right mind is even giving you a first round pick for this guy?

Prior to this you probably get two first round picks for Richardson, now, you can't even get one (fifty-cents on the dollar).
 

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Sign Mo now before this arrogant prick really screws us and gets suspended a year.


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Mike Freeman from CBS sports line wrote an article recently about pot use in the NFL. Former player Jamal Anderson was quoted as saying that "roughly 60% of players use weed". I don't know how he knows that, but that's a big number. If he's anywhere close to that statistic, that's pretty amazing. It also said players know when they'll be tested, and that's how they don't get caught.

Yes, i read that article and found it truly amazing that the NFL hasn't caught on and evolved with the times.
It's not a PED folks it's marijuana.
People die from:
Steroids...
Crack..
Molly's...
Heroine...
Nicotine...
Alcohol..
People DO NOT DIE FROM SMOKING MARIJUANA. For such a contact sport, PAIN KILLERS are given that are actually more dangerous and excessivelly more addictive to an athlete and any one for that matter.

Marijuana is a substance that can help these players. They aren't driving off the road hitting people. It doesn't enrage you, hell, on the contrary it mellows you out into not doing any other stupid act. Please people, Pot is in no way a gate way drug (http:/http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug/). Whom ever thinks that should read this article.

There is a reason why pot is picking up steam in this country to allow it to become legal. High official realize that medicinally it can ease the pain of many issues (cancer, psychiatric, mood swings & many more). Or recreational. Heck, we've all drank some alcohol. So those pointing the finger at "POT IS SUCH A DEVIL SUBSTANCE" should honestly think twice about what they truly are saying. Alcohol subtance have been associated with plenty of deaths in this country as opposed to smoking weed, whci is still at a huge ZERO.

What Sheldon did is nothing. What Josh Gordon did is nothing and what 60% of the NFL still does (according to the CBS article) is nothing. What Ray Rice did is something.. What Donte Stallworth did is something huge, what Aaron Hernandez did is serious & what Antonio Gates did using PED's is wrong. These are examples of acts that deserve punishment, not smoking weed fellas. Hell if thats the case, suspend players for smoking a cigarette, that produces cancer. Suspend a player for drinking alcohol, and suspend a player for life for sipping on a mimosa!

The NFL should honestly lower or banish the ban and consider the benefits of the drug as this country is in transition to making it legalized throughout the states.
 

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I think most of us would be for that now, Cy, the problem is, now if we sell Sheldon Richardson, AT BEST we can receive fifty-cents on the dollar, and we'll be lucky to even get that much.

Remember, this is not his first failed test, its only the first one we know of because the CBA demands confidentiality for his earlier failed tests. The league can't go public until it reaches the suspension stage, and that doesn't occur until his THIRD failed test, second if he fails to comply with the mandated treatment, but this is his second or third failed test, not the first, so we are dealing with a habitual, persistent offender of the leagues drug policy, not a first time offender.

The other problem is, he is now firmly planted in the leagues strict monitoring program, which is to say, for the rest of his career he will be tested randomly and regularly, which means the next step is ... see: Josh Gordon & Justin Blackman.

You add those things together and who in his right mind is even giving you a first round pick for this guy?

Prior to this you probably get two first round picks for Richardson, now, you can't even get one (fifty-cents on the dollar).

Yep...Jets likely only get s a 2nd rd pick for the 2nd best dlineman in the NFL after watt who is only 24. The best scenario would be for sheldon to get 10 sacks in his 12 games played and then try and get a late 1 for him.

Jets now wont get close to market value regardless of when they trade him. There are always team reluctant to trade picks and take a huge cap hit by adding a player...add in losing a 1, taking on 60-75 mill gauranteed money, and have him 1 strike away from 1 year suspension and 2 strikes away from league ban? Not going to happen. He's like a #1 overall pick value that we'll be lucky to get a 2nd rd pick for...
 

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I think most of us would be for that now, Cy, the problem is, now if we sell Sheldon Richardson, AT BEST we can receive fifty-cents on the dollar, and we'll be lucky to even get that much.

Remember, this is not his first failed test, its only the first one we know of because the CBA demands confidentiality for his earlier failed tests. The league can't go public until it reaches the suspension stage, and that doesn't occur until his THIRD failed test, second if he fails to comply with the mandated treatment, but this is his second or third failed test, not the first, so we are dealing with a habitual, persistent offender of the leagues drug policy, not a first time offender.

The other problem is, he is now firmly planted in the leagues strict monitoring program, which is to say, for the rest of his career he will be tested randomly and regularly, which means the next step is ... see: Josh Gordon & Justin Blackman.

You add those things together and who in his right mind is even giving you a first round pick for this guy?

Prior to this you probably get two first round picks for Richardson, now, you can't even get one (fifty-cents on the dollar).

Well, we can deal Richardson after this season, and his value should be restored somewhat by the 12 games he actually plays.

The difficulty is, he is not going to alter his contract demands despite his diminished value. His comments and his twitter handle suggest someone with an incredibly lofty opinion of himself.
 

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Well, we can deal Richardson after this season, and his value should be restored somewhat by the 12 games he actually plays.

The difficulty is, he is not going to alter his contract demands despite his diminished value. His comments and his twitter handle suggest someone with an incredibly lofty opinion of himself.

You think we'll get close to market value for a player 1 strike away from a 16 game suspension and 2 strikes away from league ban? I find it hard to believe a team will give up a 1 and start contract negotiations at $60 mill guaranteed for him at this point...
 

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You think we'll get close to market value for a player 1 strike away from a 16 game suspension and 2 strikes away from league ban? I find it hard to believe a team will give up a 1 and start contract negotiations at $60 mill guaranteed for him at this point...

Huh? Where did I say ANYTHING about us getting close to market value for him?

I said he could restore some of his value in his final 12 games this year, but I never said anything about him getting close to market value. In fact, I said his value was diminished.

Do you even bother reading posts, or do you just assign to the author what you want it to say?
 

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Huh? Where did I say ANYTHING about us getting close to market value for him?

I said he could restore some of his value in his final 12 games this year, but I never said anything about him getting close to market value. In fact, I said his value was diminished.

Do you even bother reading posts, or do you just assign to the author what you want it to say?

Thanks for clarifying. Feel free to drop the whining from your responses though. All you had to do was clarify without the extra nonsense. You should be better than that.
 

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Well, we can deal Richardson after this season, and his value should be restored somewhat by the 12 games he actually plays.

The difficulty is, he is not going to alter his contract demands despite his diminished value. His comments and his twitter handle suggest someone with an incredibly lofty opinion of himself.
He'll never even come close to restoring his value, sack, not even if he goes out and wins LEAGUE MVP in only 12 Games, and the proof is Josh Gordon, the Browns were shopping him off a MONSTER YEAR, one of the greatest seasons ever for a WR, I mean he just tore the league a new ass, and they realized they had to keep him and keep their fingers crossed that he wouldn't get popped again, because NOBODY was giving them market value for a young, big, dominant WR in his mid 20's, if they traded him they had to accept significantly less than what he would have been worth if he didn't have the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head, and thats the same sword Sheldon Richardson has hanging over his head now, and that sword is NEVER going away, cause now he's in the drug monitoring program for life.

Lastly sack, you have to believe every GM in the league was debating whether or not to trade for Josh Gordon and how much they should offer to make sure they could get a deal done. For that kind of WR, these conversations were taking place in every front office in the league, and in each instance there had to be a temptation to gamble and pay the price, and each one of those GM's dropped to their knees and THANKED GOD they didn't do it when Gordon got popped again and his career essentially went up in smoke (no pun intended) ... and none of them have forgotten that.

We're in the same spot the Browns were in with Gordon, we can't trade him, in any trade we make we'll be getting hosed, so we have to keep him and keep our fingers crossed that he doesn't get popped again.
 

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Thanks for clarifying. Feel free to drop the whining from your responses though. All you had to do was clarify without the extra nonsense. You should be better than that.

If you feel pointing out how you pretty well constantly misquote people and put words is whining, then yes, I'm whining.

I should be fine with you claiming everyone says things they don't actually say.
 

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If you feel pointing out how you pretty well constantly misquote people and put words is whining, then yes, I'm whining.

I should be fine with you claiming everyone says things they don't actually say.

You wont be misquoted again.
 

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He'll never even come close to restoring his value, sack, not even if he goes out and wins LEAGUE MVP in only 12 Games, and the proof is Josh Gordon, the Browns were shopping him off a MONSTER YEAR, one of the greatest seasons ever for a WR, I mean he just tore the league a new ass, and they realized that had to keep him and keep their fingers crossed that he wouldn't get popped again, because NOBODY was giving them market value for a young, big, dominant WR in his mid 20's, if they traded him they had to accept significantly less than what he would have been worth if he didn't have the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head, and thats the same sword Sheldon Richardson has hanging over his head now, and that sword is NEVER going away, cause now he's in the drug monitoring program for life.

Lastly sack, you have to believe every GM in the league was debating whether or not to trade for Josh Gordon and how much they should offer to make sure they could get a deal done. For that kind of WR, these conversations were taking place in every front office in the league, and in each instance there had to be a temptation to gamble and pay the price, and each one of those GM's dropped to their knees and THANKED GOD they didn't do it when Gordon got popped again and his career essentially went up in smoke (no pun intended) ... and none of them have forgotten that.

We're in the same spot the Browns were in with Gordon, we can't trade him, in any trade we make we'll be getting hosed, so we have to keep him and keep our fingers crossed that he doesn't get popped again.

I just hope he has more realistic expectations of his value. So far, I have seen a guy with such a lofty opinion of his own value, I'm not sure he recognizes that he's not going to get Watt money now.

His agent will be very important in instructing him as to his value.
 

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In my opinion, the best ting they can do with Sheldon right now is nothing. We control his rights for 2 more years, 3 with the team 5th year option. Lets just wait and see how this is going to play out.

If we were to trade him now, we are going to get well below market. Let him come back in October and hope the kid plays well and does not get into more trouble. We are not getting anywhere near market value for him in a trade right now. Lets see what we really have in Leonard Williams. Just let it play out.

Oh, yeah, and lets get Mo locked up.
 

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I just hope he has more realistic expectations of his value. So far, I have seen a guy with such a lofty opinion of his own value, I'm not sure he recognizes that he's not going to get Watt money now.

His agent will be very important in instructing him as to his value.

Hopefully his agent will also be important in teaching him how to be a professional, and avoid doing stuff that jeopardizes his team and his career. Maybe teach him a bit about the value of humility as well.
 

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I just hope he has more realistic expectations of his value. So far, I have seen a guy with such a lofty opinion of his own value, I'm not sure he recognizes that he's not going to get Watt money now.

His agent will be very important in instructing him as to his value.
I'll tell you this much, whoever signs him to his next deal, assuming he hasn't destroyed his career before he even reaches that stage, and thats a big assumption to be making, but assuming he gets to his next contract without another failed test, he'll have 60 or 80 million reasons to stay clean after that, because EVERY DIME of that contract will be predicated on him staying clean, one failed test and that contract is voided, including the signing bonus which he will be legally obligated to return. I can't see any team giving him a mega-contract without those protections.
 
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