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BlindsideD'Brick

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HYATT™;68011 said:
Ahem.
The Cheats beat the 10 wins Jets while THEY were HEALTHY & the Jets were still finding their offense.
The Jets beat a severely offensively depleted 12 wins NE team, AFTER the Jets had found their FitzMagic.

Timing matters, immensely, which is why any system that relies only on combined wins and losses cannot hope to accurately reflect the Strength of a Schedule as it was played AT THE TIMES it was played.


Important point. Beating someone in September isn't the same as beating them in December. Injuries are huge. And so is a team's ability to hit it's stride mid season. The Jets are a great example. This offense was garbage in the middle of the year. They've been a completely different team since Fitz/Gailey has found it's rhythm.
 
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So I guess I was right after all. Jets were recipients of an easy schedule. They were NOT good enough to be a playoff contender and it appears they will suffer next season also because they will be getting 10-6 schedule and they cannot even beat average teams.
 

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So I guess I was right after all. Jets were recipients of an easy schedule. They were NOT good enough to be a playoff contender and it appears they will suffer next season also because they will be getting 10-6 schedule and they cannot even beat average teams.


you do know there is no such thing as a 10-6 schedule?

you do know that all but 2 games are pre-determined well in advance? we play the AFC East 2x, an entire AFC division, an entire NFC division, and only 2 games based on standings (we will play the other 2nd place AFC teams)

you do know we basically played the exact same schedule as the bills, patriots and dolphins (other than games against each other), except for only 2 games?

actually, why would i assume you know these basic things

10-6 schedule...lol
 
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We will play the exact same games as the Pats next year with the exception of two games where we will play the 2nd place AFC teams from the two divisions that aren't in our rotation in 2016. The Pats will play the two division winners of those divisions....
 
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you do know there is no such thing as a 10-6 schedule?

you do know that all but 2 games are pre-determined well in advance? we play the AFC East 2x, an entire AFC division, an entire NFC division, and only 2 games based on standings (we will play the other 2nd place AFC teams)

you do know we basically played the exact same schedule as the bills, patriots and dolphins (other than games against each other), except for only 2 games?

actually, why would i assume you know these basic things

10-6 schedule...lol

Bologni. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's just two games. That's stupid. It's the difference in what teams they play in a particular division, which teams they play on the road, and how often they play teams outside of a normal Sunday schedule. The Jets had an EASIER schedule than the Patsies, and they still shit the bed even despite a cupcake schedule.
 

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Bologni. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's just two games. That's stupid. It's the difference in what teams they play in a particular division, which teams they play on the road, and how often they play teams outside of a normal Sunday schedule. The Jets had an EASIER schedule than the Patsies, and they still shit the bed even despite a cupcake schedule.

14 of 16 games are pre-determined every single year... Regardless of final standings. The home/away determination of these 14 games are set as well. It alternates home and away for out of division and out of conference games

Next year we will play the Colts 2nd AFC South
next year the Pats will play the Texans 1st AFC South

Then our other "standings determined" game will be KC (if we are playing AFC North as our divisional opponent) or Pitt if we are scheduled to play the AFC West as our opponent. I can't recall what AFC divisional opponents we are scheduled to face.

Yes they had a tougher schedule than us, but i betcha it is easier next year for them.
 

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Bologni. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's just two games. That's stupid. It's the difference in what teams they play in a particular division, which teams they play on the road, and how often they play teams outside of a normal Sunday schedule. The Jets had an EASIER schedule than the Patsies, and they still shit the bed even despite a cupcake schedule.


not so surprisingly, it is you who has no idea what he is talking about

all games except 2 are pre-determined. we play the entire AFC East 2x, we play the entire AFC North and NFC West. and the last 2 games are based on standings, where we will play the 2nd place teams in the AFC South and West. the home and away games are also pre-determined. we will be home against the AFC South team and at the AFC West game.

each team in the AFC East will play the same schedule, except those 2 other games, where the 1st place teams play each other, then 2nd, the 3rd and the 4th place teams will play each other.

night games are determined by the networks, not based on prior year record. well i guess the networks will select what they think are the better teams for more night games.

so again, other than 2 games, the schedule is pre-determined years in advance. here is our schedule through 2019. all but 2 games are already set

http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl/new-york-jets.php
 
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Bologni. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's just two games. That's stupid. It's the difference in what teams they play in a particular division, which teams they play on the road, and how often they play teams outside of a normal Sunday schedule. The Jets had an EASIER schedule than the Patsies, and they still shit the bed even despite a cupcake schedule.
You really are clueless PatfanME.

I am really glad you turned out to be just another NE troll and not a Jet fan
 
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And to make PatfanME's position even more clueless, his Pats played two games against a 2014 4-12 team whereas the Jets had to play two games against an obviously more difficult 12-4 Division winner....pretty much evening up any difference caused by the 2 of 16 games against AFC teams based on our finishing 4th last season
 

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The NFL lays it out in their draft posting from today. The Jets had a .441 strength of schedule, and the Pats a .473.
 
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The NFL lays it out in their draft posting from today. The Jets had a .441 strength of schedule, and the Pats a .473.

This proves it. But all the know nothings somehow manage to think .441 EQUALS .473?! Consider the source I guess. They fail to take into account how many times the Pats faced opponents with much shorter than normal resting time. But, NO, the difference in when they play makes no difference, .441 EQUALS.473?! Meanwhile, the Patsies at least took care of business beating the very average teams of this league. The Jets, on the other hand, lost to 4 teams with a LOSING record this season, they lost TWICE to their sworn enemy with the season on the line no less. But, NO GD YOU, none of that makes any fucking difference!!! .441 EQUALS .473 you JERK!!! So does that about sum it up for this beligerent, narrow minded mob? LOL Maybe if you get angry enough and scream it loud enough it'll be true?!
 

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This proves it. But all the know nothings somehow manage to think .441 EQUALS .473?! Consider the source I guess. They fail to take into account how many times the Pats faced opponents with much shorter than normal resting time. But, NO, the difference in when they play makes no difference, .441 EQUALS.473?! Meanwhile, the Patsies at least took care of business beating the very average teams of this league. The Jets, on the other hand, lost to 4 teams with a LOSING record this season, they lost TWICE to their sworn enemy with the season on the line no less. But, NO GD YOU, none of that makes any fucking difference!!! .441 EQUALS .473 you JERK!!! So does that about sum it up for this beligerent, narrow minded mob? LOL Maybe if you get angry enough and scream it loud enough it'll be true?!


moron - no one said the pats didn't have the tougher schedule. 14 of the 16 games were set years and years in advance. the only 2 variable games were the pats played the steelers and broncos (1st place teams in the AFC North and West) and the jets played the browns and raiders (4th place teams in the AFC North and West). also, the jets played the pats twice while the pats played the jets twice.

of course, those two variable games are based on 2014 finish.

not exactly sure what you are trying to say here. you previously made the idiotic statement that the jets will now have to play a 10-6 schedule and that home and away games are somehow determined on this. this is 10000% incorrect. the home and away games are set years in advance. the 2 variable games will be the jets playing indy and KC next year, as the 2nd place division teams. the pats will play houston and denver as the 1st place division teams. every single other game has been set years ago including who is home and away
 
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Continuing to try and explain the NFL to a moron is a waste of time and keystrokes
 

Elias

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Can we try to be civil here without the attacks. Come on guys!

MJ - your argument is false. The jets played what was on their schedule. We couldnt play more difficult teams if we tried. We did lose to some teams we should have won. Management will try to improve on what went wrong there and look to improve.
 

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This proves it. But all the know nothings somehow manage to think .441 EQUALS .473?! Consider the source I guess. They fail to take into account how many times the Pats faced opponents with much shorter than normal resting time. But, NO, the difference in when they play makes no difference, .441 EQUALS.473?! Meanwhile, the Patsies at least took care of business beating the very average teams of this league. The Jets, on the other hand, lost to 4 teams with a LOSING record this season, they lost TWICE to their sworn enemy with the season on the line no less. But, NO GD YOU, none of that makes any fucking difference!!! .441 EQUALS .473 you JERK!!! So does that about sum it up for this beligerent, narrow minded mob? LOL Maybe if you get angry enough and scream it loud enough it'll be true?!

The Pats didn't have a rougher schedule than the Jets in terms of rest times. In fact they had a huge advantage getting one of their Thursday games as the season kickoff game. The rest was largely the same... With the Pats getting a short week the Jets didn't with a MNF game and the Jets getting a Saturday game against Dallas.
 

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This proves it. But all the know nothings somehow manage to think .441 EQUALS .473?! Consider the source I guess. They fail to take into account how many times the Pats faced opponents with much shorter than normal resting time. But, NO, the difference in when they play makes no difference, .441 EQUALS.473?! Meanwhile, the Patsies at least took care of business beating the very average teams of this league. The Jets, on the other hand, lost to 4 teams with a LOSING record this season, they lost TWICE to their sworn enemy with the season on the line no less. But, NO GD YOU, none of that makes any fucking difference!!! .441 EQUALS .473 you JERK!!! So does that about sum it up for this beligerent, narrow minded mob? LOL Maybe if you get angry enough and scream it loud enough it'll be true?!

You have a serious comprehension issue. I said the Pats have a marginally stronger strength of schedule. I never said equal.

But why would you ever let facts get in the way of your anger?

By the way, welcome back. We missed you during the five-game winning streak, though nobody is surprised you weren't around.
 

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You have a serious comprehension issue. I said the Pats have a marginally stronger strength of schedule. I never said equal.

But why would you ever let facts get in the way of your anger?

By the way, welcome back. We missed you during the five-game winning streak, though nobody is surprised you weren't around.

Been the best 5 weeks ever.
 
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Can we try to be civil here without the attacks. Come on guys!

MJ - your argument is false. The jets played what was on their schedule. We couldnt play more difficult teams if we tried. We did lose to some teams we should have won. Management will try to improve on what went wrong there and look to improve.

So my argument is false when in fact it was proved that:

1) The Pats DID have a tougher schedule.

2) The Pats DID have many more games outside of normal Sunday games.

3) The Pats did hold up their end of the bargain beating almost all of the average and losing teams in the league.

4) The Jets LOST to 4 teams with losing records and to their sworn enemy with the season on the line and got swept.

Nonsense, Everything that I have mentioned above is factual. I also mentioned that the Jets can only manage one win per season against a winning team. So my original post lays it out. That is, the Patsies DID have a tougher schedule.

Say I am false until you are blue in the face, but the fact still remains the JETS DID have an easier road through the season. As I already pointed out and even YOU seem to want to ignore it....

.441 DOES NOT EQUAL .473, and it NEVER will.
 

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So my argument is false when in fact it was proved that:

1) The Pats DID have a tougher schedule.

2) The Pats DID have many more games outside of normal Sunday games.

3) The Pats did hold up their end of the bargain beating almost all of the average and losing teams in the league.

4) The Jets LOST to 4 teams with losing records and to their sworn enemy with the season on the line and got swept.

Nonsense, Everything that I have mentioned above is factual. I also mentioned that the Jets can only manage one win per season against a winning team. So my original post lays it out. That is, the Patsies DID have a tougher schedule.

Say I am false until you are blue in the face, but the fact still remains the JETS DID have an easier road through the season. As I already pointed out and even YOU seem to want to ignore it....

.441 DOES NOT EQUAL .473, and it NEVER will.

So are the Jets average?

If so, that is 3 average or losing teams that beat the Pats. The Dolphins, losing record. The Eagles, losing record.

Which is it? Do the Jets suck, like you contend, and the Pats lost to three bad teams? Or were the Jets better than average?
 
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