Ted Wells report on Deflate Gate being released now

soj

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One you lose integrity its had to get back that is the crux of the matter here for Mr. Kraft's buddy. Like others stated if there are not serious consequences then the league may never recover.
 
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So Brady petitioned the NFL for teams to take control of game balls and the league approved it in the area of 2007 or so

And suddenly the cheating scumbags went from the league average in fumbling from 2000 to 2006 to vastly lower than the league average every year from 2007-2014.

What a coincidence
 

jetfandreamer

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If its a worse infraction ...... then penalties have to be greater than those imposed on the Saints .....

New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton was suspended for one year, the team lost its Second round draft pick in 2012 and 2013 and had to pay $500,000 as a result of the NFL's bounty investigation.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who orchestrated the program, has been suspended from the NFL indefinitely.
Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis got an eight-game suspension.
Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt was also suspended without pay for the first six games of the 2012 season.

This should be interesting .......


TRU when you F with the integrity of a game actually being played..it should outweigh any slip of the tongue tampering or any BS stuff..even the substance abuse stuff...
 

Green Jets & Ham

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There's a lesson to be learned here, it pays to be nice to the people who work for you and don't be a d**k to people you perceive as beneath your station in life. Actually if you even think that way to begin with, that you are better than other people, you are setting yourself up for a fall.

From reading those texts its obvious that these equipment managers didn't like Tom Brady, no doubt because he BIG TIME'ed them, and thats why they felt no compulsion to withhold their texts from the investigators and protect Brady.

If he was cool with these guys and treated them with respect, they would have tried harder to protect him.

Thats how I see it and you can read that in their texts, its like they're talking about a dooshbag they don't like.
 

Jet Fan RI

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and Kraft speaks

http://www.patriots.com/news/2015/0...ts-chairman-and-ceo-robert-kraft-wells-report

says there is no incontrovertible or hard evidence of intentional wrong doing

wow - now lets just think - what could possibly be incontrovertible or hard evidence - a video of someone letting air out of the balls

the Pats backpeddle is amazing - almost like a skilled DB - no longer that it didnt happen - now no "incontrovertible evidence".....the refuge of scoundrels

and kraft is offended by claim of less than full cooperation. Well, Ted Wells and the NFL legal team might be offended by that attitude.

In my judgment as a physicist, the physical testing presented in the appendices is hard evidence of wrong doing. It was a well-done job on the testing, rather compelling. They even tested how long it takes to manually deflate a bag of balls by the required amount-about 70 seconds, well within the time the ball guy had the balls in the restroom.
 

Jet Fan RI

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I am guessing draft picks may be a part of it. There is no reason to release it so soon after the draft unless they had it before and held it for this week. All they did was buy the Pats another year without draft punishment.

It comes out in March, the Pats lose 2015 picks. It comes out in May, the Pats lose 2016 picks.

That could actually be even better. Pats will have higher draft picks in 2016, almost for sure.
 

NickSINYC

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I know Congress has better things to do but I would love to see a subcommittee gets all those clowns under oath and see the ducking stop and what eventually comes to light.
 

SackExchange

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That could actually be even better. Pats will have higher draft picks in 2016, almost for sure.

That's a very good point. Even without a suspension to Brady, they have lost almost their entire secondary and the leader of their DL.

Brady gets suspended, they are very poachable, and the pick is significantly higher than 32.
 

Jet Fan RI

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So Brady petitioned the NFL for teams to take control of game balls and the league approved it in the area of 2007 or so

And suddenly the cheating scumbags went from the league average in fumbling from 2000 to 2006 to vastly lower than the league average every year from 2007-2014.

What a coincidence

My one disappointment with the technical appendices was that the issue of the reduction in Pats' fumble rates starting at the same time as the rule change was not discussed. Perhaps the investigators were unaware of the Sharp report. - Too bad if that's the case.
 

Bronx

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I don't think they punish the organization. I think Brady gets a game or two, and we are done. I think they have an out, since the report states Belichick didn't know.
 

NickSINYC

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I don't think they punish the organization. I think Brady gets a game or two, and we are done. I think they have an out, since the report states Belichick didn't know.

When Goodell handed down the Saints punishments he clearly said " ignorance is no excuse " If he does not follow his own precedent when handing down the Pats punishment he should be fired.
 

Football51

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When Goodell handed down the Saints punishments he clearly said " ignorance is no excuse " If he does not follow his own precedent when handing down the Pats punishment he should be fired.



He also said that repeat offenders would be punished more severely. I see a lot of talk on twitter that because of SpyGate, the Pats organization is going to be hit hard.
 

maxmet

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I don't think they punish the organization. I think Brady gets a game or two, and we are done. I think they have an out, since the report states Belichick didn't know.

failure to supervise, maintaining and atmosphere in which cheating is condoned - see, for example, SAINTS
 

Football51

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shannon sharpe @ShannonSharpe · 4h4 hours ago

Brady must be suspended for minimum of 2-4 gms, Belichick gets 1 yr and tm loses 1st rd draft pick 2016-17. Tm gets fined the max.



shannon sharpe @ShannonSharpe · 4h4 hours ago

Commish Goodell talks about personal conduct and the effect it has on the shield.This goes to the integrity of the shield.



shannon sharpe @ShannonSharpe · 4h4 hours ago

The Pats punishment must be severe because spygate taught them absolutely nothing about adhering to the rules.


shannon sharpe @ShannonSharpe · 4h4 hours ago

Ppl will say Coach Belichick didn't know. In the words of Commish Goodell to S. Payton. You're the hd coach. You should've known.



 

NickSINYC

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How long will Goodell keep us in suspense. Even if he just received the report which I doubt he has had months to contemplate different scenarios and what punishment they deserve.
 
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