the elephant in the room..

jetgreen13

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not trying to be a wet blanket JFU but i truly believe lost in the euphoria from last nights win, something potentially catastrophic is being ignored here..

why didn't bowles go for two after we went up by 12 late in the 4th quarter?? LOLz i feel very safe in saying if we lost last night, say 38-37?? this would have been a topic of great interest.....
 

lounap23

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not trying to be a wet blanket JFU but i truly believe lost in the euphoria from last nights win, something potentially catastrophic is being ignored here..

why didn't bowles go for two after we went up by 12 late in the 4th quarter?? LOLz i feel very safe in saying if we lost last night, say 38-37?? this would have been a topic of great interest.....

The clock and knowing the the Bills only had 2 TO's dictated not to go for two..... The team actually executed exactly the way Bowles was thinking.... Give the Bills the ball let them take time off the clock driving down the field.... Get the ball back and get a first down game is over.... or punt away after a 3 and out and Bills have to drive the length of the field with about 20 seconds on the clock.. Turned out to be 14 seconds... That was calculated... At least thats what I was thinking when my buddy said hey why isn't Bowles going for 2 and that's what I explained
 

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Bowles is a new HC. There are going to be growing pains. He admitted as much during his press conference. That he recognized that he made a mistake is huge. Impossible to fix a problem if u deny its existence.
 

Elias

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That is a huge mistake but I won't make a big stink about it since we won. He should know the situation better though.

No harm, no foul.
 

jetgreen13

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Bowles is a new HC. There are going to be growing pains. He admitted as much during his press conference. That he recognized that he made a mistake is huge. Impossible to fix a problem if u deny its existence.[/]
O, i appreciate your take but honestly after he got called on it, how the hell else could he have carry it, aside from with "hat in hand" humility??

what's he going say?? 2+2 equals 5 cause i say so??
 

isired

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He said he got distracted on the sideline - not a great excuse, but as long as he learns from it and it doesn't happen again, what more can you do? You have to expect growing pains when you hire a first time head coach, but I'd rather have Bowles than most of the retreads.
 

jetgreen13

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That is a huge mistake but I won't make a big stink about it since we won. He should know the situation better though.

No harm, no foul.
honesty E, what gives me the most pause about bowles is, if you're a "slow & steady wins the race" kind of guy.. this kind of mistake in year two is disturbing!!

bowles wasn't "lost in the moment" because he was whooping it up on the sidelines, he flat out effed up a head coaching 101 situation in year two on the job..
 
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Elias

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honesty E, what gives me the most pause about bowles is, if you're a "slow & steady wins the race" kind of guy.. this kind of mistake in year two is disturbing!!

bowles wasn't "lost in the moment" because he was whooping it up on the sidelines, he flat out effed up a head coaching 101 situation in year two on the job..

Is there anyone else on the sidelines that can help with this decision? We have a group of deadbeats out there!
 

lounap23

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Well I guess I shouldn't be an NFL HC... Like I said I wouldn't have gone for 2 either. I used my mathematician skills to know the odds of the Bills scoring with 20 seconds on the clock and having to go over 65yds was well in our favor....

I'll stick to Math... guess we should have went for 2 based on the comments you guys posted from Bowles
 

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A far as coaching goes, I was upset when the Jets had the fourth and one inside the 15 yard line, in the 1st quarter.After the failed third down attempt, instead of rushing up to the line and at least simulate you're going for it and maybe make them jump offsides, the jets just calmly switched to their feildgoal unit and kicked the feildgoal. Even if they got a delay of game penalty, the kick would've still been shorter than an extrapoint kick. The discipline of a Rex Ryan team makes me think somebody is going to jump offsides, first and goal.
 

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BIG MISTAKE and today Bowles admitted it, which is good because it proves it was just an oversight.

That said, its always better to learn this kind of lesson in a win than to learn it the hard way, with a loss.

I think its safe to say Bowles will be a lot more aware of these situations moving forward.
 
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Bowles is a new HC. There are going to be growing pains. He admitted as much during his press conference. That he recognized that he made a mistake is huge. Impossible to fix a problem if u deny its existence.

New HC is one thing, stupidity is something entirely different. Bowles is not a very good HC and I know Jets fan do not like to hear that, but it is true...........
 

jetgreen13

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New HC is one thing, stupidity is something entirely different. Bowles is not a very good HC and I know Jets fan do not like to hear that, but it is true...........
i firmly believe the jury is still out on what kind of head coach bowles will end up being..

i've been somewhat critical but i still think it's fair to say, bowles has shown us us enough to at least hold out hope he's our long term answer..

we'll see.....
 

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New HC is one thing, stupidity is something entirely different. Bowles is not a very good HC and I know Jets fan do not like to hear that, but it is true...........

Well, it's an opinion.

And the notion that Rex is so much better than him is pretty much debunked.
 

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He said he got distracted on the sideline - not a great excuse, but as long as he learns from it and it doesn't happen again, what more can you do? You have to expect growing pains when you hire a first time head coach, but I'd rather have Bowles than most of the retreads.

The guy's been coaching defense his whole life -- there's NO WAY his first instinct wasn't to figure out how to protect a two-score lead, not how to turn 13 into 14 points.

Is that excusable? Of course not. He has to grow as a HEAD coach or he won't be one for long. Having said that, I don't think his miscue was near as critical as the alternative of our vaunted D giving up 2 late TDs . . .
 

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New HC is one thing, stupidity is something entirely different. Bowles is not a very good HC and I know Jets fan do not like to hear that, but it is true...........
It's not stupidity, he said he was tied up in a defensive discussion and by the time he realized the kicking team went out it was too late. It's not that he chose to kick. In fact it should be on Gailey and special teams coach. There's a spreadsheet for every mathematical possibility, and it dictates if you kick or attempt 2. It's the coaches decision to deviate, so who chose to deviate workout Bowles consent?

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Well, it's an opinion.

And the notion that Rex is so much better than him is pretty much debunked.

If you took a poll of Jets fans asking the question "who'd you rather have coaching this team, Bowles or Ryan?", what would the response be? Pretty sure most Jets fans would choose Bowles over a guy already in the hot seat for his head coaching career.

Rex Ryan will be a defensive coordinator somewhere else in 2017.
 
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Mainejet

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It's not stupidity, he said he was tied up in a defensive discussion and by the time he realized the kicking team went out it was too late. It's not that he chose to kick. In fact it should be on Gailey and special teams coach. There's a spreadsheet for every mathematical possibility, and it dictates if you kick or attempt 2. It's the coaches decision to deviate, so who chose to deviate workout Bowles consent?

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It is STUPIDITY if he slept on a VERY important decision......
 
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If you took a poll of Jets fans asking the question "who'd you rather have coaching this team, Bowles or Ryan?", what would the response be? Pretty sure most Jets fans would choose Bowles over a guy already in the hot seat for his head coaching career.

Rex Ryan will be a defensive coordinator somewhere else in 2017.

And that makes Todd Bowles a better HC than Rex because Todd Bowles is 1-2 against Rex and because Bowles won the most recent match, it makes Bowles a better HC? That's the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Come see when Bowles last 6 seasons in NY and even after he finally is fired there is still huge debate as to whose fault the lack of player talent was. Until then, this is pure dingbat drivel. Rex has 7 seasons of bring a HC under his belt, Todd Bowles has ONE.
 

mykcuz

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And that makes Todd Bowles a better HC than Rex because Todd Bowles is 1-2 against Rex and because Bowles won the most recent match, it makes Bowles a better HC? That's the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Come see when Bowles last 6 seasons in NY and even after he finally is fired there is still huge debate as to whose fault the lack of player talent was. Until then, this is pure dingbat drivel. Rex has 7 seasons of bring a HC under his belt, Todd Bowles has ONE.
Well Bowles also took Rex's 4 win Jets to a10 win record(80% chance of making playoffs) with Fitz as his qb and no te. Rex got every playmaker he wanted in Buffalo and went from Doug marones 10 wins down to 8, and is now 0-2 with Arizona and the Patriots coming up, and the owners firing his coaches...

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