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[jets82]

@jets82, we began our fandom at the same time. We experienced a few fun years to be a fan. I remember those feelings very well. One of my best friends( Dolphin season ticket holder) accurately told me I was going to have the most fun as a Jet fan
I'd ever had just prior to the 98 season. I was excited about giving Glenn Foley a shot to see if he had some magic. Chris said Vinny is going to be special with Martin and all of your receivers. He brought me to the Sunday night game in Miami. Can't wait to see what he says about Geno. I think we are in for something similar. FTR, I had same instinct in 2015 after Geno left and Fitz-magic happened. Let's see.

Once again my Jets friend, from your lips to God’s ears. I’ll admit, I have no faith in Geno and I don’t even want him to be our answer. Even if for a year or two or three. I want that 21-23 yr old rookie to be our franchise guy for the next 15-20 years. To help bring us a few Super-bowls.

Even better would be the type of situation we got this year with Klubnik. A 4th, 5th round pick or worse that nobody expects anything from but he becomes our diamond in the ruff player. Other teams have been fortunate enough to have this happen to them, why not us???

Yes, drafting a 1st round QB that does this for us would be great also but Klubnik appears to have to tools to provide us this. So why not him, why not now, why not us? Imagine being able to use all these draft picks over the next 15-30 on BPA or other needs, that is not a QB? What a gift that would be.

Our Jets fandom appears to have started around the same time and I remember the few moments of glory days we had also. Especially the 1998 AFC Championship team that I honestly felt could beat anyone. 2009-2010, I didn’t believe in really but of course I was there for the ride.

 

[skop]

Once again my Jets friend, from your lips to God’s ears. I’ll admit, I have no faith in Geno and I don’t even want him to be our answer. Even if for a year or two or three. I want that 21-23 yr old rookie to be our franchise guy for the next 15-20 years. To help bring us a few Super-bowls.

Even better would be the type of situation we got this year with Klubnik. A 4th, 5th round pick or worse that nobody expects anything from but he becomes our diamond in the ruff player. Other teams have been fortunate enough to have this happen to them, why not us???

Yes, drafting a 1st round QB that does this for us would be great also but Klubnik appears to have to tools to provide us this. So why not him, why not now, why not us? Imagine being able to use all these draft picks over the next 15-30 on BPA or other needs, that is not a QB? What a gift that would be.

Our Jets fandom appears to have started around the same time and I remember the few moments of glory days we had also. Especially the 1998 AFC Championship team that I honestly felt could beat anyone. 2009-2010, I didn’t believe in really but of course I was there for the ride.

Funny... I had no faith in 09 or 10 teams, but I thought 98 could play against anyone too. I agree with my FSU buddy. I would like to see CK too. As you mentioned, Our draft is all about BPA along with cap space can load a team. Let's F'ing go!!!!!! why not us? why can't he play 3.34 yard games of catch with our receivers and backs like Brady did? why not?

 

[skop]

Unfortunately, we don't find that out unless 26 is another dud of a season. Here's a story... Geno gives us a 98 year for the ages. He gets injured in a playoff game. CK comes off the bench in a close game. dinks and dunks and hands off to Breece Lightening. we win on a td pass that is more accurately described as a Tom Brady Special 3 yard hand off just over the LOS. he's an instant franchise QB. we get best of both worlds and the 27 draft is BPA all freaking day!!!!

 

[jets82]

Unfortunately, we don't find that out unless 26 is another dud of a season. Here's a story... Geno gives us a 98 year for the ages. He gets injured in a playoff game. CK comes off the bench in a close game. dinks and dunks and hands off to Breece Lightening. we win on a td pass that is more accurately described as a Tom Brady Special 3 yard hand off just over the LOS. he's an instant franchise QB. we get best of both worlds and the 27 draft is BPA all freaking day!!!!

Do you think Klubnik coming in a playoff game and leading the Jets to a victory will be enough to prove he’s our franchise QB? If that’s the first game he’s plays in all year long, I would think they would need to see more. More like him winning the next playoff game, with legit stats and making legit passes under true pressure most of the game. If he does that, the Jets will believe it then. We all will!

Trust me when I tell you, I don’t see it panning out AT ALL as the Jets being a playoff team. Or even close to it with either quarterback this year. I’m happy with the Jets winning about 6-8 games and Klubnik being a part of most, if not all of those games. Obviously the losses won’t be nice but if most of them are tight losses and Klubnik is a part of those also, I think that he proves then that he is a franchise guy.

 

[skop]

Do you think Klubnik coming in a playoff game and leading the Jets to a victory will be enough to prove he’s our franchise QB? If that’s the first game he’s plays in all year long, I would think they would need to see more. More like him winning the next playoff game, with legit stats and making legit passes under true pressure most of the game. If he does that, the Jets will believe it then. We all will!

OK, I like the plot twist. He starts the next and grinds out a win; and sticking to the Brady motif, he has Geno chart for him like Bledsoe did for TB. Is he a bust if he doesn't win the last game of the season?

 

[jets82]

OK, I like the plot twist. He starts the next and grinds out a win; and sticking to the Brady motif, he has Geno chart for him like Bledsoe did for TB. Is he a bust if he doesn't win the last game of the season?

Trust me when I tell you, I don’t see it panning out AT ALL as the Jets being a playoff team. Or even close to it with either quarterback this year. I’m happy with the Jets winning about 6-8 games and Klubnik being a part of most, if not all of those games. Obviously the losses won’t be nice but if most of them are tight losses and Klubnik is a part of those also, I think that he proves then that he is a franchise guy.

 

[skop]

Trust me when I tell you, I don’t see it panning out AT ALL as the Jets being a playoff team. Or even close to it with either quarterback this year. I’m happy with the Jets winning about 6-8 games and Klubnik being a part of most, if not all of those games. Obviously the losses won’t be nice but if most of them are tight losses and Klubnik is a part of those also, I think that he proves then that he is a franchise guy.

Just have to agree to disagree. I think we have too much fire power at skill positions to not be a contender. If Sweat and the Biggies on the D-line can stop the run, we'll be solid on D too. But I'll adopt your philosophy to go straight to CK. why not? we'll all be here next year. It's not as if the Org cares if we are starved to win. they know our loyalty.
Let's get a great look at him. I just see the trenches being units that can win games. Don't ask him to throw it 40 times each week. 40 handoffs is more like it. complete 3rd and less than 5 all afternoon. FTM, I'd want Geno doing that too. so why not play Cade right away?

 

[jets82]

Just have to agree to disagree. I think we have too much fire power at skill positions to not be a contender. If Sweat and the Biggies on the D-line can stop the run, we'll be solid on D too. But I'll adopt your philosophy to go straight to CK. why not? we'll all be here next year. It's not as if the Org cares if we are starved to win. they know our loyalty.
Let's get a great look at him. I just see the trenches being units that can win games. Don't ask him to throw it 40 times each week. 40 handoffs is more like it. complete 3rd and less than 5 all afternoon. FTM, I'd want Geno doing that too. so why not play Cade right away?

It would be a dream to see the Jets playing Cade ASAP, like first game of the season, but will he be ready for that? MOST LIKELY NOT and being that the Jets seems to be dead set on starting Geno, the job is his no matter what he does. Plus, Geno pretty much is having a great training camp as far as reports say. So yes he’ll be the day one starter and rightfully so.

I just believe Cade will get his start this year, like early in the year due to an injury to Geno or his typical poor play. If Geno proves me wrong then so be it but I have to see it to believe it. Now you saying that the offensive and defensive line can be strong enough to really push this team to some wins, I can get with. That will help either QB out in the long run, no doubt!

 

[skop]

Your take is so on the money!!! all that draft cap dedicated to BPA could be our version of the Redskin draft of 82 or the Cowboys of 90 instead of

 

[jets82]

Your take is so on the money!!! all that draft cap dedicated to BPA could be our version of the Redskin draft of 82 or the Cowboys of 90 instead of

EXACTLY! That’s what I’m talking about and Klubnik panning out this year for us is the KEY! If he does, then the Jets will be golden for years to come. Of course he has to stay healthy but any QB would have to that as well. If Klubnik flakes then we are back to square one next year, looking for a QB and that is the main key to any football team. If you don’t have a QB, you ain’t got nothing!!!

 

[jets82]

 

[skop]

JC is a good watch. thanks. Ian makes Geno sound like Vinny.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I love that @skop and @jets82 are having their own little fantasy conversation.

 

[cheaterhater]

I'm fairly certain that Frank Reich is a well respected Offensive Coordinator. After meeting and coaching GS in their first mini-camp as OC & QB, FR had nothing but praise for GS's preparation, knowledge of the game, and (I quote FR) "his football IQ".

Yup, no bout a doubt it, you're way smarter and more of an Offensive football savant than FR. It would be interesting to hear what our OC would have to say about Geno's 2 wins. I'm betting on him not blaming Geno for only two wins. I have a feeling that when he watched him, on tape, in a Raider uniform, he cringed at the O-Line play, lack of running game, and lopsided scores that forced the Raiders into a one dimensional Offense allowing D's to tee off on Geno. Please forgive me for taking Reich seriously.
PS, even with the trash he edured, his star line wasn't awful...
It's better than anything we've seen since 2015 AND if we had him in Aaron's 4 play year, we'd still be celebrating a SB victory. Can you imagine our D that year plus an 84.7 passer as our QB?
Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	COMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	RTG Passer rating
2025 2025	Raiders	67.4 67.4	3,025 3,025	19 19	17 17	84.7

I think Bigmoe is just saying that of course Reich is going to say good things about Geno wether he believes him or not.

you think if we had Geno instead of Rodgers that we would have gone to the SB?

I’m thinking I misunderstood. Otherwise you ere trying to be funny and you did a really great job of it cause that’s hilarious

 

[jets82]

I love that @skop and @jets82 are having their own little fantasy conversation.

I like it also, no love it to be honest! If you don’t have hope, you don’t have anything! I’m still trying to be realistic with it but there is reason to be hopeful, IMO anyway and that’s exactly what I’m going to be! Hopeful!

 

[skop]

I think Bigmoe is just saying that of course Reich is going to say good things about Geno wether he believes him or not.

you think if we had Geno instead of Rodgers that we would have gone to the SB?

I’m thinking I misunderstood. Otherwise you ere trying to be funny and you did a really great job of it cause that’s hilarious

I think you're right. I hope my post didn't come across as sarcastically as it did to me on the re-reading of it! BM, very sorry if I was disrespectful

 

[skop]

I love that @skop and @jets82 are having their own little fantasy conversation.

TCT, I laughed at myself for starting that intra-thread thread. I hope it was enjoyable! TBH, that's truly what I'm grasping at straws for this year... the season to be an enjoyable 3 hour break each Sunday. So in being realistic that we have been so bad for so long, I shared noticing my opinion of similarities to the 98 season with a@82 ( who became a fan the same year I did, because it's fun to get his take being that we literally simultaneously experienced the same highs and lows as Jet Fans. I found it curious he'd rather see CK's value over a winning season. and it got a bit "Lifetime movie-esque from there. Plus, @82 is a Nole and I'm a Rowdy Reptile. So, it kind of takes an alternate universe for us to align.

 

[skop]

https://jetsxfactor.com/2026/08/06/3-major-positive-developments-are-brewing-at-ny-jets-camp/

Yup.Seems as if Geno can be our 98 Vinny 2.0, IMO.

 

[jets82]

TCT, I laughed at myself for starting that intra-thread thread. I hope it was enjoyable! TBH, that's truly what I'm grasping at straws for this year... the season to be an enjoyable 3 hour break each Sunday. So in being realistic that we have been so bad for so long, I shared noticing my opinion of similarities to the 98 season with a@82 ( who became a fan the same year I did, because it's fun to get his take being that we literally simultaneously experienced the same highs and lows as Jet Fans. I found it curious he'd rather see CK's value over a winning season. and it got a bit "Lifetime movie-esque from there. Plus, @82 is a Nole and I'm a Rowdy Reptile. So, it kind of takes an alternate universe for us to align.

You hit it on the nail skop. I’m desperate for the Jets to get that franchise quarterback that will play for us for 15 to 20 years and help us win at least one championship. If not a few of them. IMO, if you don’t have a franchise QB, you really don’t have anything. That’s just the facts, for the most part.

So Geno given us a magnificent season or even two, to me really means nothing. Unless we’re going to win a championship with him and we all know that ain’t happening. So why not just go ahead and start the franchise now. Sometime this year, with the rookie. If he’s capable of it of course!

This madness all started in 82 for me and it’s been ALOT MORE lows than highs but the ride for me will never end with this team. I’m sure you feel the same! I’m with the Jets, ride or die until the wheels fall off. Hopefully they bring us the ultimate joy before then. A Super Bowl victory, at least one. DAMN!!!

 

[skop]

You hit it on the nail skop. I’m desperate for the Jets to get that franchise quarterback that will play for us for 15 to 20 years and help us win at least one championship. If not a few of them. IMO, if you don’t have a franchise QB, you really don’t have anything. That’s just the facts, for the most part.

So Geno given us a magnificent season or even two, to me really means nothing. Unless we’re going to win a championship with him and we all know that ain’t happening. So why not just go ahead and start the franchise now. Sometime this year, with the rookie. If he’s capable of it of course!

This madness all started in 82 for me and it’s been ALOT MORE lows than highs but the ride for me will never end with this team. I’m sure you feel the same! I’m with the Jets, ride or die until the wheels fall off. Hopefully they bring us the ultimate joy before then. A Super Bowl victory, at least one. DAMN!!!

true, but there's something special when we're winning, right?
Like the streak in '86. That was more magical than my Mets winning it all that year. It pales in comparison to My Knicks this summer. The Jets winning it all will be unlike anything else.

I think we differ in the Franchise QB or bust thing. IMO, Aikman had to be considered a FQB. I'd contend that the other 52 guys made his average of 15 tds, 12 picks, and 2700 yards a FQB. So, you changed my mind. I'll forego a 98 type of joy ride in favor of seeing if CK can be serviceable to justify using all that 27 draft ammo on BPA to surround him with a chip roster.