UPDATE Tested positive for covid

Old#15

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OMG, another 'vaccine' refusenik. I thought everyone on this site was ginger about the jabs. Isn't Brandon determined to jab you all? I am trying to hold out until at least there are actual traditional vaccines available, like Valneva. I can recommend the British website 'theconservativewoman', which has some interesting articles at variance with the mass media narrative.
I'm one as well. There is a lot of information available (see VAERS website https://vaers.hhs.gov/) to make informed decisions about whether to jab or not. I have heart and allergy issues and from what I read I am probably better off without the vaccine. Take a look at all of the cardiac events that are happening to world class athletes in the football (European) world and take a look at the number of reported deaths and other medical issues stemming from the vax that are listed in VAERS. A lot of the adverse effects of the vaccine is not being reported in the mainstream media, but the information is there if you look. Unfortunately, it'll take some famous basketball/football/hockey related cardiac emergency for people to pay more attention.
 

butterscotch

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I'm one as well. There is a lot of information available (see VAERS website https://vaers.hhs.gov/) to make informed decisions about whether to jab or not. I have heart and allergy issues and from what I read I am probably better off without the vaccine. Take a look at all of the cardiac events that are happening to world class athletes in the football (European) world and take a look at the number of reported deaths and other medical issues stemming from the vax that are listed in VAERS. A lot of the adverse effects of the vaccine is not being reported in the mainstream media, but the information is there if you look. Unfortunately, it'll take some famous basketball/football/hockey related cardiac emergency for people to pay more attention.
I agree & Vaers only gets about 10% of the reported issues........ IMO we are being forced into this jab. ask yourself why???????????
 

butterscotch

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I'm one as well. There is a lot of information available (see VAERS website https://vaers.hhs.gov/) to make informed decisions about whether to jab or not. I have heart and allergy issues and from what I read I am probably better off without the vaccine. Take a look at all of the cardiac events that are happening to world class athletes in the football (European) world and take a look at the number of reported deaths and other medical issues stemming from the vax that are listed in VAERS. A lot of the adverse effects of the vaccine is not being reported in the mainstream media, but the information is there if you look. Unfortunately, it'll take some famous basketball/football/hockey related cardiac emergency for people to pay more attention.
As far as why some sports players are getting heart problems & not others????? Sit at a table with 12 guests all drinking wine. the first three take a sip & fall over.......now sit at a table with 12 people drinking wine & one falls over dead......well that second table was just a rare heart issue right. no one thinks of the wine but at the first table everyone stops drinking.
 

beresford

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I agree & Vaers only gets about 10% of the reported issues........ IMO we are being forced into this jab. ask yourself why???????????
I think we know why. And the people behind it are rumoured to have two more deadly viruses to release if they can't fulfil their agenda with this one. In Britain we are regularly lied to by our 'leaders'. But this isn't a political site so I will just respond to the news of your recovery with 'Great, reset'.
 

skop

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I'm one as well. There is a lot of information available (see VAERS website https://vaers.hhs.gov/) to make informed decisions about whether to jab or not. I have heart and allergy issues and from what I read I am probably better off without the vaccine. Take a look at all of the cardiac events that are happening to world class athletes in the football (European) world and take a look at the number of reported deaths and other medical issues stemming from the vax that are listed in VAERS. A lot of the adverse effects of the vaccine is not being reported in the mainstream media, but the information is there if you look. Unfortunately, it'll take some famous basketball/football/hockey related cardiac emergency for people to pay more attention.

so true!!! can you imagine if TB12 got a booster, and had horrific reactions to it? that would be the end of this "vaccine".
Glad to see so many are wary of it.

I will not take it. you cannot stop an animal protein virus with a vaccine...we would have eradicated the common cold by now if we could use a vaccine for it.

treatment is the way, and always has been! Good for you, Butterscotch on not paying attention to the morons downplaying the efficacy of Ivermectin.

funny that in poor countries where they can only afford a dirt cheap med, like Ivermectin, that the cases are dropping like rocks. "and" in richer countries, where we are on our 4th Booster, the cases are climbing.

Summer of 2020...after an initial spike after re-opening, cases plummeted.
Summer of 2021...after 6 months of Vax galore, cases are spiking.

curious, right?
 

butterscotch

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so true!!! can you imagine if TB12 got a booster, and had horrific reactions to it? that would be the end of this "vaccine".
Glad to see so many are wary of it.

I will not take it. you cannot stop an animal protein virus with a vaccine...we would have eradicated the common cold by now if we could use a vaccine for it.

treatment is the way, and always has been! Good for you, Butterscotch on not paying attention to the morons downplaying the efficacy of Ivermectin.

funny that in poor countries where they can only afford a dirt cheap med, like Ivermectin, that the cases are dropping like rocks. "and" in richer countries, where we are on our 4th Booster, the cases are climbing.

Summer of 2020...after an initial spike after re-opening, cases plummeted.
Summer of 2021...after 6 months of Vax galore, cases are spiking.

curious, right?
One county in India 200 million people almost no cases on ivermectin. Japan cases dropping like a Rock on ivermectin.
 

skop

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One county in India 200 million people almost no cases on ivermectin. Japan cases dropping like a Rock on ivermectin.

10-4...and Fraudci refuses to endorse the "anecdotal" case studies. He is a criminal; his own office published a study in 2005 that showed the efficacy of HQC for SARS viruses.

in a normal world, we'd be endorsing treatments. in this one, we are trying to get people to take something that doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it.... :unsure:
 

Old#15

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Follow the money and you'll understand why, at least partially why the mainstream media is only talking about vaccinations. If you haven't noticed, the vast majority of advertisement money being spent on TV is from Big Pharma. So if you are TV execs and have control over your news content why would bite the hand that feeds you? Sorry for the non-football rant.
 

TonyFtLaud

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So 2 negative tests 24 hours apart? You're cleared protocol and can suffer on Sunday with the rest of us. Start drinking a fifth per day to get your ass in "game shape" !!!! 🤣🤣
Seriously, happy to hear your feeling better!😉
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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so true!!! can you imagine if TB12 got a booster, and had horrific reactions to it? that would be the end of this "vaccine".
Glad to see so many are wary of it.

I will not take it. you cannot stop an animal protein virus with a vaccine...we would have eradicated the common cold by now if we could use a vaccine for it.

treatment is the way, and always has been! Good for you, Butterscotch on not paying attention to the morons downplaying the efficacy of Ivermectin.

funny that in poor countries where they can only afford a dirt cheap med, like Ivermectin, that the cases are dropping like rocks. "and" in richer countries, where we are on our 4th Booster, the cases are climbing.

Summer of 2020...after an initial spike after re-opening, cases plummeted.
Summer of 2021...after 6 months of Vax galore, cases are spiking.

curious, right?

Besides being able to use Ivermectin in poor countries, the real reason for problems in America is because people are obese. Its not a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Its a pandemic of the fat/unhealthy. The vaccines were never the answer. I'm glad @butterscotch beat it and is on the mend.
 
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I am only speaking from personal experience. Choices regarding vaccines are ultimately personal. In our case, when my wife had COVID, she came down with what they call long haul COVID. Some of the symptoms persisted for months. When she took the vaccine the first time, the symptoms alleviated. Leading up to the booster, those symptoms began to reappear. With the booster, once more those same long haul symptoms alleviated.
 

butterscotch

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I am only speaking from personal experience. Choices regarding vaccines are ultimately personal. In our case, when my wife had COVID, she came down with what they call long haul COVID. Some of the symptoms persisted for months. When she took the vaccine the first time, the symptoms alleviated. Leading up to the booster, those symptoms began to reappear. With the booster, once more those same long haul symptoms alleviated.
It is everyone's choice
 

Oraelo

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So maybe .5% of the population have an adverse effect from the vaccine but the death rate drops drastically because those who have gotten it have much less severe symptoms and outcomes.
Happily vaccinated X3
 

skop

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Flu Strain A comes and goes each year getting milder and milder as the season wears on...then the strain goes away for years.
Flu Strain B comes and goes each year getting milder and milder as the season wears on...then the strain goes away for years.

C19 keeps coming back year after year...maybe it's because we keep re-introducing it with the Vax's and Boosters .
the vaxxed are still getting it, and passing it...Good Luck to the Browns and all of their vaxxed players sitting out on Sat.
 

SackExchange

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So maybe .5% of the population have an adverse effect from the vaccine but the death rate drops drastically because those who have gotten it have much less severe symptoms and outcomes.
Happily vaccinated X3

That is where I am, as well.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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So maybe .5% of the population have an adverse effect from the vaccine but the death rate drops drastically because those who have gotten it have much less severe symptoms and outcomes.
Happily vaccinated X3

Never had strep.
Never had the flu.
Never had Mono.
Taking my chances with COVID. Not worried about it since I have very low chance of exposure and I'm healthy.
 

gmf1369

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I know a few people who took the vaccine had bad reactions to it...
I know three people who got real sick from it, but their immune systems were trash like an ash tray from all the cigarettes' they smoked...
 
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