We MUST take a QB

[mykcuz]

Whether the Jets get a quiet man of high moral caliber, or a party animal like Namath, I don't particularly care. Just find us someone, anyone, who will help bring us the Lombardi.

Well the previous comment was regarding the special type of guy needed to make it in the ny market, I was responding to that.
Namath was a party animal and paid for it. But he was raised with certain morals that apply to being a leader, not of the high moral fiber type, but if the strong work ethic, team player variety.

 

[Jet Fan RI]

Well the previous comment was regarding the special type of guy needed to make it in the ny market, I was responding to that.

Right. But what prompted my earlier reply was that Namath made it in the NY market. And it really doesn't matter to me much what the character of the QB is, as long as he can win a SB. But yes, in any case if a QB is going to succeed in NY, he needs to be able to deal with the distractions, one way or the other.

 

[lounap23]

I'am all for drafting Mariota. Though if he doesn't get drafted by us at 6, then it should precluded us from drafting one in the later round if management thinks they have something to offer in this years QB competition.

I for one think Bryce Petty would be a perfect fit for Gailey's system. He has "Jim Kelly" leadership skills in which he can rally his team through a brick wall. A lazer arm and has a brain to work with as he is an excellent student of the game.

IMHO, as crazy as this might sound, i hope the Jets trade back into the late 1st round and pick Petty. This kid's stock will rise very fast by next month. My gut feeling is he will be exceptional in this league.

Been saying I like Bryce Petty for a long time.. Give this kid a year to learn and we will be playing with fire...

 

[mykcuz]

Right. But what prompted my earlier reply was that Namath made it in the NY market. And it really doesn't matter to me much what the character of the QB is, as long as he can win a SB. But yes, in any case if a QB is going to succeed in NY, he needs to be able to deal with the distractions, one way or the other.

That character plays into the locker room and chemistry, and matters. I was piggy backing your comment off of earlier similar comments. I'm not saying a qb has to be of strong character, my point was quite to the contrary of the assertion that a quiet introvert can't qb the jets. My point is that you never know when some Iowa qb gets drafted as a quiet kid and comes here and embraces the light, like Namath did from Alabama.

 

[Jet Fan RI]

That character plays into the locker room and chemistry, and matters. I was piggy backing your comment off of earlier similar comments. I'm not saying a qb has to be of strong character, my point was quite to the contrary of the assertion that a quiet introvert can't qb the jets. My point is that you never know when some Iowa qb gets drafted as a quiet kid and comes here and embraces the light, like Namath did from Alabama.

I think we're agreeing. Remember, I just want a guy who can help us get a Lombardi. No doubt such a man will have the needed locker room chemistry. I'm just saying it doesn't matter to me whether that guy is more like Roger Staubach, or more like Joe Namath. Just win the trophy!

 

[mykcuz]

I think we're agreeing. Remember, I just want a guy who can help us get a Lombardi. No doubt such a man will have the needed locker room chemistry. I'm just saying it doesn't matter to me whether that guy is more like Roger Staubach, or more like Joe Namath. Just win the trophy!

Yes we are in agreement, I was simply mashing different thoughts together.

 

[Mainejet]

The only thing in your post I disagree with is "This is a very risky thing," I don't think it's all that risky. There is certainly no guarantee that Mariota will develop into an elite QB, but he is certainly better then what the Jets have out there now.

IMO it's a no brainer if he is there at 6 the Jets should take him. The only question is, should they move up and get him?

I say that from the standpoint of how many top ten young QB's actually do become the real deal. Whereas, we could probably select an OL and get a sure thing. In other words, there are much safer picks in the top 10.

 

[Mainejet]

If its not a QB the CS thinks they can develop no need just for a QB...the champions have good to great Ds and QBs that make winning plays...Chan will hopefully get Fitz and Geno to limit TOs and the D will force more, something the Jets never seem to do at a good rate

Based on the history behind our very own Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick, that's only a plan that can insure that we get better than 4-12. Possibly to as good as 8-8, but that will NEVER allow us to win it all and the point is to win it all.

 

[Mainejet]

I definitely agree that a team without a stable and quality quarterback is going to struggle to find success. I am not the biggest fan of Mariota at 6 , but if the Jets feel like he is their guy then they need to pick him. With the rookie salary cap the way that it is, it doesn't cost 20 - 30 mil guaranteed to draft a top 10 quarterback anymore.

I agree with this 100%. The point is for the Jets to become the best. If they improve to 10-6 this season and make the playoffs? That's only temporary satisfaction as a fan. That's all it will also ever be if the Jets FO chooses to skirt the QB and get by on the cheap. The goal is always to win the SB and if that means based on MacCagnan's building philosophy, we are forced to endure two more non winning seasons before we finally break out and win it all? Then it is all worth it.

 

[Mainejet]

what if mac, gailey & bowles aren't fans of mariota??

Then, they select another QB elsewhere in the draft. But the point is they MUST take one.

 

[Mainejet]

Even if the CS and FO feel that Mariota can be a future franchise QB and draft the young man, there is no way he should play for at least the first year. That plan can work only if Gailey can get the best out of Geno or Fitz. Otherwise, the fan and media pressure will be too great to make a change and if this kid is forced onto the field too early he will fail. Mariota must sit if drafted.

I disagree with this. All I want to see is that he hits the field at the right time. There's no way you can out a blanket statement on young QB's and say they all should sit. I also do not agree with him starting because he's your only option on the team. As a GM, you should get off your A$$ and get a decent veteran in there to protect the youngster against being thrown into the fray too early.

If say the Jets take Mariota at the 6th pick and he wins the QB competition during TC? Then, I am all for him starting. The point is, he earned it and that is the only logical way you can run such a thing.

 

[Jet Setter]

I disagree with this. All I want to see is that he hits the field at the right time. There's no way you can out a blanket statement on young QB's and say they all should sit. I also do not agree with him starting because he's your only option on the team. As a GM, you should get off your A$$ and get a decent veteran in there to protect the youngster against being thrown into the fray too early.

If say the Jets take Mariota at the 6th pick and he wins the QB competition during TC? Then, I am all for him starting. The point is, he earned it and that is the only logical way you can run such a thing.

And if he fails like Geno, the new GM gets run out of town. Touching story.

 

[Mainejet]

And if he fails like Geno, the new GM gets run out of town. Touching story.

That's no different than any GM. It is also far from touching. EVERY GM hangs their job prospects on the QB's they select unless the new GM already has a great QB. The Jets do not.

 

[jetgreen13]

Then, they select another QB elsewhere in the draft. But the point is they MUST take one.

i suspect they will.. even if it's not mariota at 6.. but if the jets love the kid i will too!!

 

[NickSINYC]

If he is there and Macc and Gailey like him take him. If he is not IMO you should draft a QB every year until you find your long term QB. There are a few I would take a shot on later.

 

[flgreen]

I say that from the standpoint of how many top ten young QB's actually do become the real deal. Whereas, we could probably select an OL and get a sure thing. In other words, there are much safer picks in the top 10.

Yep

but none that would have the impact on the Jets for the next 10+ years that a franchise QB would. (If that's what he is)

 

[ucrenegade]

in all honesty taking mariotta at 6 would be great because I would love for him to sit and learn from a veteran guy like fitzpatrick for 2 years. Fitzpatrick can teach him how to play in a nfl offense better than geno ever could.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

Bleacher report on Bryce Petty:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2398569-big-time-thrower-could-join-winston-mariota-as-round-1-qbs-in-2015-nfl-draft

Late 1st round talent and i agree.

 

[isired]

What is amazing here is that none of us are questioning his football skills or talent , moreso we are all laser focused on what kills all QB's in NY... the stage, the limelight and the press.

I agree, that is what we're focusing on, but I'm not sure that is the reality of the problems our QBs have had. You could maybe say that Sanchez liked the limelight a bit too much, but his issues were clearly those of a QB with a small sample of college games whose potential didn't translate to the pro game - or maybe he didn't improve enough. Whatever the issue, he had the same problem in Philly: taking care of the ball.

Geno's issue is what I think we all fear in Mariotta - he just had to flat out learn a new position, pro-style QB, and all of the reads that go along with it. I guess the press put more pressure on him here than he might have had elsewhere, but the real issue with him is that he was never going to be ready in his first season, let alone game 1. And I was OK with that fit where we got him - it was a project and a risk - not sure I would want to risk the same situation at #6 .

Actually, I am sure - I wouldn't. I'd have to have seen something that leads me to believe that he can convert.