Week 2 Game Thread: NY Jets @ Buffalo Bills

jetgreen13

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If the Jets are a playoff team, they win this game. Plain and simple.
sounds about right to me as well..

of course, when bolwes was asked about any "revenge factor," in monday's presser he completely downed played it being a factor..

if they don't come out of the tunnel in "save the season" mode tonight, bowles is in over his head.. but what the hell do i know.....
 

lounap23

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They have beat up OL, so our DL better dominate..... To many times last year and even in the Cincy game last week when we needed them to get to the pass rusher nothing.... 7 sacks was impressive and they beat up that line last week most of the day but when we needed them they were no where to be found.. We need that Von Miller guy that when the play needs to be made they make it.

ON the Car/Den game last week... Miller was no where for the entire game and then on the last drive he made 3 big plays..... We need MO, Sheldon or Williams tp do that... I don't care about 7 sacks and the praise they got... I want the one play from any of them at the end of the game to seal the win..... We haven't had that since we had Abraham and Ellis together on the DL
 

RMJK

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Bowles didn't miss any extra point or FG. We dominated Cinci except for a few plays on the secondary. Bills are no match against us.
 

jetgreen13

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Bowles didn't miss any extra point or FG. We dominated Cinci except for a few plays on the secondary. Bills are no match against us.
bowles also didn't make the necessary adjustments to cincinnati's short passing game..

the pass rush then became a non factor & green & dalton went off as a result..
 

soj

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bowles also didn't make the necessary adjustments to cincinnati's short passing game..

the pass rush then became a non factor & green & dalton went off as a result..


Why does everyone Blame Bowles? He is not the DC. However, if the secondary gets tourched again today like last week, then we know that they know the secondary is not good even with #24. Maybe that is why they are playing off.... My concern is the breakdows last week and the TOTAL lack of adjustments by the DC to counter what cinny was doing. To not make adjustments is lunacy... that is two games in a row.

If that continues then it's a combination of coaching and players.... and IMHO that would be a major problem.

BTW - they need to beat these guys no excuses.
 
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lounap23

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bowles also didn't make the necessary adjustments to cincinnati's short passing game..

the pass rush then became a non factor & green & dalton went off as a result..

I agree to a degree... Depends on your paradigm.... You can make an argument that he did enough to have his team in position to win.... Coaching had a Defense called to double Cover AJ Green on his deep TD but Marcus Williams blew the coverage and Revis at first released AJ to the deep cover guy and relaized he wasn't there and tried to cover the ground and couldn't..... Bad play not bad call.... Missed FG, Missed extra point.... So there is a 10 pt swing right there that's all on the performance of the players... if 2 out of those 3 bad plays are made like they should we win... Hell if 1 out of the missed FG or the blown coverage are made we win... So everyone would be a 100 times less critical of Bowles this week...


This game is 80% on the play of the players 20% on Bowles failure to adjust to the short bubble screens. With that said... Sh(* happens.. need to clean it up and move on and start with a win tonight
 

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jets82

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Let me clarify my post from earlier in this thread. I said the Jets will lose 17-13 tonight but the only reason I feel this way, is because Rex seems to have our number. Especially Fitzpatrick! Now we all know the Jets are a more talented and a better team. That didn't change anything with the results last year and they were the better and more talented team then also. So if the Jets are truly a playoff contender, even with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB, they will find away to win this game. I hope they win but I won't be surprised if they lose.
 

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bowles also didn't make the necessary adjustments to cincinnati's short passing game..

the pass rush then became a non factor & green & dalton went off as a result..

Maybe he did make those adjustments. Maybe our players just couldn't execute those adjustments.
 

jetgreen13

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Why does everyone Blame Bowles? He is not the DC. However, if the secondary gets tourched again today like last week, then we know that they know the secondary is not good even with #24. Maybe that is why they are playing off.... My concern is the breakdows last week and the TOTAL lack of adjustments by the DC to counter what cinny was doing. To not make adjustments is lunacy... that is two games in a row.

If that continues then it's a combination of coaching and players.... and IMHO that would be a major problem.

BTW - they need to beat these guys no excuses.

I agree to a degree... Depends on your paradigm.... You can make an argument that he did enough to have his team in position to win.... Coaching had a Defense called to double Cover AJ Green on his deep TD but Marcus Williams blew the coverage and Revis at first released AJ to the deep cover guy and relaized he wasn't there and tried to cover the ground and couldn't..... Bad play not bad call.... Missed FG, Missed extra point.... So there is a 10 pt swing right there that's all on the performance of the players... if 2 out of those 3 bad plays are made like they should we win... Hell if 1 out of the missed FG or the blown coverage are made we win... So everyone would be a 100 times less critical of Bowles this week...


This game is 80% on the play of the players 20% on Bowles failure to adjust to the short bubble screens. With that said... Sh(* happens.. need to clean it up and move on and start with a win tonight
bowles is the head coach guys.. a defensive head coach at that.. head coaches are always ultimately held accountable for their teams shortcomings.. i didn't make up the rules, what is, is.....

green & dalton putting up video game numbers is as much a reason we lost as anything you guys listed..

what we do seem to agree on is 0-2 is unacceptable..
 

jets82

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I wish we still has Rex as our HC, at least right now it is plain to see that Rex is a better HC than Todd Bowles, no doubt about it..........
Huh, you can't seriously mean that? Rex is a joke and not a HC. He is a excellent motivator and even better shit talking but not a HC. Now does he have BOWLES AND THE JETS number, maybe so and last year doesn't help the cause. Tonight's game will or both games really will be the deciding factor on that question. Does he have FITZ NUMBER, obviously yes (8-1) and that is the problem that needs to be fixed. Both games the Jets loss last year to the Bills, the defense didn't necessarily come through but they kept it close at least. Fitz and the offense, especially Fitz sucked ass and gave the games away. Now with the kind of defense the Jets have, they should have dominated the Bills both games last year. As they should tonight but Fitz is the 12-13 year, six team veteran, that should be able to make plays on the field and he couldn't. That's not on Bowles, that on Fitz and the offense.

Now if you want to talk about time management, schemes and preparing the team then I get your point about Bowles falling a little short. However; it wasn't like the Jets got blown out either game. They hung tuff but flopped in the end. Fitz makes a throw or two and the games possibly go the other way. The WRs, RBs and TEs make a catch or two and the games go the other way. Same with the RBs running the rock, oline blocking, special teams and overall defense plying better. Let's talk about Bowles being a waste and Rex being better then him when the Jets start getting blown out, especially by the Bills. Until then, Rex isn't a better HC by no means. Rex destroyed a Bills team last year that was on the rise the year before. Plus he's on the hot seat already. While Bowles took a Jets team under Rex the year before that won 4 games to a 10 win team. If you don't like Bowles then that's one thing but to say Rex is a better HC then him is just down right LOW AND DIRTY, LOL!!!!!
 
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TebowCan'tThrow

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maybe.....

that's definitely not a long term excuse though, is it??

No, but I'm not ready to say Bowles sucks when the players have to make plays. I have never played a sport where the coach actually plays so I'm going to assume the players are to blame.


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sounds about right to me as well..

of course, when bolwes was asked about any "revenge factor," in monday's presser he completely downed played it being a factor..

if they don't come out of the tunnel in "save the season" mode tonight, bowles is in over his head.. but what the hell do i know.....

You know enough to know that Todd Bowles would be in over his head in the event they lose tonight. The whole theory is correct. We've watched Bowles screw up two games in a row now that were perfectly winnable. If he goes 0-2 after tonight, I would say safely that the Jets chances at the playoffs are nonexistent........
 
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Mainejet

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bowles is the head coach guys.. a defensive head coach at that.. head coaches are always ultimately held accountable for their teams shortcomings.. i didn't make up the rules, what is, is.....

green & dalton putting up video game numbers is as much a reason we lost as anything you guys listed..

what we do seem to agree on is 0-2 is unacceptable..

I completely agree. Jets fans blamed Rex Ryan for the offense and defense being so bad, why is it any different with Todd Bowles????
 
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Mainejet

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Huh, you can't seriously mean that? Rex is a joke and not a HC. He is a excellent motivator and even better shit talking but not a HC. Now does he have BOWLES AND THE JETS number, maybe so and last year doesn't help the cause. Tonight's game will or both games really will be the deciding factor on that question. Does he have FITZ NUMBER, obviously yes (8-1) and that is the problem that needs to be fixed. Both games the Jets loss last year to the Bills, the defense didn't necessarily come through but they kept it close at least. Fitz and the offense, especially Fitz sucked ass and gave the games away. Now with the kind of defense the Jets have, they should have dominated the Bills both games last year. As they should tonight but Fitz is the 12-13 year, six team veteran, that should be able to make plays on the field and he couldn't. That's not on Bowles, that on Fitz and the offense.

Now if you want to talk about time management, schemes and preparing the team then I get your point about Bowles falling a little short. However; it wasn't like the Jets got blown out either game. They hung tuff but flopped in the end. Fitz makes a throw or two and the games possibly go the other way. The WRs, RBs and TEs make a catch or two and the games go the other way. Same with the RBs running the rock, oline blocking, special teams and overall defense plying better. Let's talk about Bowles being a waste and Rex being better then him when the Jets start getting blown out, especially by the Bills. Until then, Rex isn't a better HC by no means. Rex destroyed a Bills team last year that was on the rise the year before. Plus he's on the hot seat already. While Bowles took a Jets team under Rex the year before that won 4 games to a 10 win team. If you don't like Bowles then that's one thing but to say Rex is a better HC then him is just down right LOW AND DIRTY, LOL!!!!!

He's a BETTER HC at least right now and you'd better get used to hearing that. Todd Bowles is a very suspect HC right now..........
 

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Payback time.
I don't believe Woody Johnson , liked the fact that the coach he fired beat him twice and kicked him out of playoffs.
Todd Bowles can stand on that podium and sell all the shit he wants that it's just another game.
Don't tell me he doesn't feel pressure to win this game tonite
This ain't stuck in his craw
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Go Jets
 
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