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If HYATT™ was Old Scratch, there's no WAY he'd ever get into a deal with Hoodie.
That dude would end up owning Hell and Scratch would be slopping shit out of the stalls.
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Yes, it's impressive what Belichick manages to do with third string QB's. But that still doesn't mean Brady isn't a great QB. He's going to go down in history as one of the best ever.
Whether we like it or not. Stats don't lie.
Thanks a lot, Texans. Way to no-show tonight against the Patriots. They played like garbage tonight. That was an abomination of a performance. Getting beaten by Brissett is unforgivable.
HFS, the Pats just don't lose. If Geno was their QB, they''d win....man, I hate them.
What's worse than all is that thier mumbling, murmuring , grumbling, coach was the Jets head coach for a day.
At least that goofball wore a suit and tie when he was our head coach.
Still too early. Let New England have their fun in the sun early. The season is still young.
Jets have to finish and focus on their respective business. The Pats can take the division i couldn't care less as it really doesn't mean much as long as the Jets make the playoffs. Once we're in, 2010 can repeat itself once again. No one plays them harder than our green and white.
I don't see the Pats nearly out of the woods as many view them. Its a long season ahead. I'am sure pundits will start rumouring how they can go undefeated once Tom Brady comes back into the fold. Let'em. It just adds more unwarranted pressure that Belichick would absolutely shoot himself when we make him 16-1 when we play him in the divisional round.
Make no mistake, the Pats during the season will be the Pats. Defying all odds. Getting all the calls and making people state what an amazing coach BB is. All i'am saying is, give it a little time....We will take care of them in due time.
Jets have to finish and focus on their respective business. The Pats can take the division i couldn't care less as it really doesn't mean much as long as the Jets make the playoffs. Once we're in, 2010 can repeat itself once again. No one plays them harder than our green and white.
I don't see the Pats nearly out of the woods as many view them. Its a long season ahead. I'am sure pundits will start rumouring how they can go undefeated once Tom Brady comes back into the fold. Let'em. It just adds more unwarranted pressure that Belichick would absolutely shoot himself when we make him 16-1 when we play him in the divisional round.
Make no mistake, the Pats during the season will be the Pats. Defying all odds. Getting all the calls and making people state what an amazing coach BB is. All i'am saying is, give it a little time....We will take care of them in due time.
Agreed that stats don't lie. But every time someone has had to step in for Brady, they have done great. Cassel, Mallett, Garoppolo, Brissett...and if you look at what happens when they leave NE, they almost always take a pretty substantial step backward, like with Cassel, Hoyer, and Mallett.
It brings up a painful hypothetical...
If you could go back, would you want to change Belichick leaving, and have the four rings, but knowing you had all the other stuff (the massive cheating scandals, the miserable HC, the classless behavior)?
And think of this - the Patriots are largely hated now because of all that. Can anyone imagine how much the Jets would be hated if it was us winning titles by cheating, and acting the way they do?
It was awful. Three games, including two of their tougher games, and in both of those "tough" games, the other team just totally plays terribly.
Not outcoached. Belichick did outcoach O'Brien on some level, but Belichick isn't a genius because the Texans coughed up the ball on kickoff after kickoff. Does anyone think Belichick is the only guy who tells his players not to fumble?
Belichick should get credit for both the defense pinning back the Texans all night, and for an offensive scheme that limited Brissett's ability to lose the game. But the breaks were all a combination of terrible Houston play and bad luck. Hell, even when the Pats put it on the turf, it bounced right to one of their own guys.
In all three games the other team played like garbage.
Don't be fooled by the frantic finish verses Miami, the Dolphins spotted them a 24-0 and 31-7 lead!!
You spot a team that kind of lead and everything that comes after is window dressing, you already pissed the game away.
All three of these teams showed up to play NE like they forgot how to play football.
I'm probably in the minority here, but NO, I would not want Belichick as my HC with all of the baggage he brings. I'm not pollyanna and I understand that this isn't Sunday School, but there has to be a measure of enjoyment that comes with winning and IMO this guy takes all the joy out of it if you constantly have to defend your accomplishments and the rest of the world views you as cheaters. In some sense it does invalidate the winning, or makes it impossible to enjoy and bask in the glory the way you should, even if Patriots fans will never admit it. They can pretend that all that matters is how they feel about their team in their own little enclave, but it has to suck if everyone else dismisses you as cheaters, especially when you know in your heart of hearts that its true. Then add to that what a smug SOB Belichick is, impossible to like, and it just becomes a joyless endeavor. Again, winning is the ultimate goal, I GET THAT, but there has to be some joy and respect that comes along with it, otherwise it just becomes an exercise in narcissism.
Unfreaking believeable! Then again I guess it shouldn't be, the Pats with a third string rookie QB shuts out a playoff contending team. Bill Belibitch can bring out the playboy bunnies and bad news bears on the field and they still will find away to win. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday other then the fact that Bill is one of the greatest HCs of all time. Definitely in the top 3 discussion. He knows how to expose your weaknesses and use it to his advantage, while hiding his weaknesses and focusing on his strengths.
He proved yesterday that the Broncos were probably right in not investing that money in Brock and he can win with almost any QB on his roster. Now let me clarify that statement, Bill can win with any QB but I don't think he can win a SB with any QB and here's where Brady comes in. Brady is the final straw in taking him over the top. Yes Bill won 11 games with Cassel and is 3-0 with two young QBs. He will win next week also but I don't think he would win a SB with just any QB. Just my opinion and ofcourse I could be wrong but I don't think so.
Note: Hopefully the Jets can split with the Pats atleast because they always either play them tuff and squeak out a W or L or get blown out period. Hence the Rex Ryan era and I have to believe TB can do better then that.
He proved yesterday that the Broncos were probably right in not investing that money in Brock and he can win with almost any QB on his roster. Now let me clarify that statement, Bill can win with any QB but I don't think he can win a SB with any QB and here's where Brady comes in. Brady is the final straw in taking him over the top. Yes Bill won 11 games with Cassel and is 3-0 with two young QBs. He will win next week also but I don't think he would win a SB with just any QB. Just my opinion and ofcourse I could be wrong but I don't think so.
Note: Hopefully the Jets can split with the Pats atleast because they always either play them tuff and squeak out a W or L or get blown out period. Hence the Rex Ryan era and I have to believe TB can do better then that.
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One more thing:
Outside of NE and not counting his sycophants in the media, does anyone really admire Bill Belichick?
I don't think so, and thats a really sad commentary on what a pathetic, unlikable louse this man is.
I mean think about all of the great football coaches, college and pros, and almost without exception they are universally admired, in some cases even revered, by the greater football community, not just their own fans.
Think of all the names; Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Shula, Walsh, Gibbs, Bear Bryant et al., none of these guys were perfect, nobody is, but in totality these men are mostly admired and revered by the greater football community and fans, there is no real dislike or animosity for these men, even their rival fans begrudgingly admire them and their accomplishments.
Belichick, on the other hand, engenders an antipathy unlike any other great coach I can think of. He's basically a miserable human-being with a special talent for coaching football. Take away his football and there is not one redeeming quality.
Outside of NE and not counting his sycophants in the media, does anyone really admire Bill Belichick?
I don't think so, and thats a really sad commentary on what a pathetic, unlikable louse this man is.
I mean think about all of the great football coaches, college and pros, and almost without exception they are universally admired, in some cases even revered, by the greater football community, not just their own fans.
Think of all the names; Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Shula, Walsh, Gibbs, Bear Bryant et al., none of these guys were perfect, nobody is, but in totality these men are mostly admired and revered by the greater football community and fans, there is no real dislike or animosity for these men, even their rival fans begrudgingly admire them and their accomplishments.
Belichick, on the other hand, engenders an antipathy unlike any other great coach I can think of. He's basically a miserable human-being with a special talent for coaching football. Take away his football and there is not one redeeming quality.
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Agreed, but the difference is, Arizona and Houston are supposed to be actual NFL teams, and the Dolphins are largely a joke. There are some expectations that the Cards and Texans would show a pulse.
The worst part is, YOU WATCH, the Jets, as usual, will play these guys tough. At worse we will split with the Patriots. YOU WATCH, those will be hard fought games that can go either way. The problem, as always, is that we get no effing help from anyone else, the rest of the league lays down like dogs at the mere sight of a Patriots uniform, thats why they win 14 Games every year on average, so how we play them is nullified by the rest of the league.
This.
Well, it's possible Rex gets his guys up for one of the games. But in general, the Jets will likely split and keep the Pats from a perfect season.
I agree with that 100% but let's not also forget the Jets don't help themselves by losing games that they should outright win. The lose to the Bengals week 1 this season is frustrating, very frustrating but understandable. However; they lost games last year they shouldn't have that knocked them out the playoffs. Both Bills games, the Texans and Eagles the Jets should have won also. The Pats loss last year was ofcourse understandable and the Raiders handed us our asses, so gotta give them their props. I'll even give you the Texans game but no way in hell we should have loss to the Eagles or Bills, either time. You think of that and the Jets are 13-3 with home field advantage, if I'm correct. So this year the Jets have to win the games their supposed to and if they do, they should be good for 10-11 games with this schedule. With the way it looks for the Pats, they probably going to win 13-14 games this year and who knows from there. It's just how they do things!
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I think this largely washes out over the course of a season. You win a few games you should lose, you lose a couple you should win. While it is frustrating to lose games you should win, we are looking at it from a biased Jets perspective. We may not recognize it as much when it happens the other way.