Geno Smith worked out with Tom House (Brady's personal QB coach) during offseason

[jetfandreamer]

With all due respect brother,
So many are forcefully trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, Geno cannot be mentioned with the likes of Rodgers, Wilson or any legit QB by no means. He's shown nothing worth of their well respective brilliance.
Especially if it's mental, these other guys get it. Geno just doesn't.

I'am glad Geno is working his ass off, I really am and hope he proves me and all of the Jets/NFL fans wrong who have given up on him. But what we've seen of him these past two seasons is what he is.
A mediocre, strong, big arm below average QB.


Rodgers had to sit but when he stepped on the field, its as if he was a rookie as he wasn't ever placed throught the trials of true bullets flying. He crushed it.

Wilson's brain was above and beyond.

Geno, stepping out of bounds in the end zone during a pre season game versus the Giants was a prelude of what Geno would turn out to be. Completely clueless.

The three interceptions in one quarter versus Buffalo at Metlife with no pressure around him, had nothing to do with talent he had in the huddle.

Geno can train with House, he can throw spirals to Marshall in the off season all he wants and try to convince Jets nation he's changed. But it's all the same BS from last year as well.
We will all know if that is fact or if he's still the same QB he will always be at the pro level. I honestly feel its the latter.

I said he does have all the physical tools..but obviously he is not the smartest tool in the shed...but hes trying..maybe it will be moot..but like you mentioned Rodgers sat for 3 years, and when he came on the field..he WAS NOT a rookie..a guy that sat and learned how to prepare, observe, when to take chances, when to run..etc...THAT DEFINITELY helped him...and Wilson is a genius..we shall see odds are against him..but he will be in the mix

 

[jets82]

like i said if anyone will make geno a decent QB out of geno it will be gailey, but as long as fitzpatrick can still throw the ball he wins easily.

In college you need to be athletic to win

In the NFL you need to be athletic and have brains

guess which one geno doesn't have?

You know, you can get in on this bet also. Your so sure Geno will easily loss to Fitz and he is so dumb, you might as well join in on the betting party. Put your money (well pride really) on the line my friend.

 

[OCCH]

In fact being that your so sure, why don't you get into this bet sg3 and I have. Anyone else who feels Geno will fall on his face this year can join in also. Just a friendly bet per say, no money involved or anything like that. Simple, Geno steps up this year and plays well then you guys admit Geno has the tools and can or is our QB and get off his back. If Geno flops and Fitz replaces him and plays well, I admit I was wrong and you guys were right. This keeps the back and forth to a minimum or shuts it down period really. I'm worn out with all this back and forth BS really.

I'm definitely in.

It's a bet I'd LOVE to lose, but I'd be surprised if Geno is on the team beyond his rookie contract . . .

 

[jets82]

I'm definitely in.

It's a bet I'd LOVE to lose, but I'd be surprised if Geno is on the team beyond his rookie contract . . .

Ok so it's OCCH, sg3 and Mainejet so far. Great and keep em coming. Got a feeling by the end of pre-season, there will be so many betting against Geno and I that I will lose count, lol. Its all good though, its all good!

 

[Mainejet]

DITTO..I dont understand the down right hatred for Geno from some posters,,,let all the guys play out and for better or worse he is part of the mix....,,,although hes been below average....seems an unintellecual response to it looking at everything

Don't be absurd, it's not hatred...... It's a realization of the FACTS. We know what we have in Geno, or shall I say DON'T have.

 

[soj]

Ok so it's OCCH, sg3 and Mainejet so far. Great and keep em coming. Got a feeling by the end of pre-season, there will be so many betting against Geno and I that I will lose count, lol. Its all good though, its all good!

82, put me in coach:smiley-cool11:!

 

[jets82]

82, put me in coach:smiley-cool11:!

Sure, are you with Geno and I or do you believe he will flop also? I'm assuming your with Geno and I but I don't want to assume anything. Seems like there are two or three people, including me that have any love for Geno. The rest want to throw him in the garbage or could care less either way. Or truly sceptical to be better put.

 

[SackExchange]

The way this thread has turned is just evidence of how the gray are is often ignored. It's possible to think Geno has potential without being completely sold on him. It's also possible to doubt Geno's ability without wanting to exile him permanently from Florham Park.

 

[jets82]

The way this thread has turned is just evidence of how the gray are is often ignored. It's possible to think Geno has potential without being completely sold on him. It's also possible to doubt Geno's ability without wanting to exile him permanently from Florham Park.

Sure for those who are riding the fence either way I understand you being impartial. For those who truly believe Geno can improve this year and be the answer. Or truly believe he is the worst and will be off the team this year, put your money or pride rather where your mouth is and join in on the bet.

 

[SackExchange]

Sure for those who are riding the fence either way I understand you being impartial. For those who truly believe Geno can improve this year and be the answer. Or truly believe he is the worst and will be off the team this year, put your money or pride rather where your mouth is and join in on the bet.

I'm not on the fence, though. I'm not just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I have a very clear opinion.

Fitzpatrick's addition was a part of the vision I had in mind, and the old-time scouters can tell you I long called for Fitzpatrick to come to the Jets and be in that QB room. That vision also involves drafting another young QB, whether Mariota, Winston, Petty, Grayson, Mannion, someone.

Short term, Fitzpatrick is better suited than any young QB the Jets would have, Geno or a draft pick. His numbers last year were great. He should have the inside track to the start. Whichever one of Geno or the drafted QB ascended to the starter role, both physically and mentally, they become the guy. They are the potential long-term franchise QB this team has long sought. And if neither guy steps up, you draft yet another QB next year, and keep doing it until you find your guy.

 

[Superman55]

I'm not on the fence, though. I'm not just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I have a very clear opinion.

Fitzpatrick's addition was a part of the vision I had in mind, and the old-time scouters can tell you I long called for Fitzpatrick to come to the Jets and be in that QB room. That vision also involves drafting another young QB, whether Mariota, Winston, Petty, Grayson, Mannion, someone.

Short term, Fitzpatrick is better suited than any young QB the Jets would have, Geno or a draft pick. His numbers last year were great. He should have the inside track to the start. Whichever one of Geno or the drafted QB ascended to the starter role, both physically and mentally, they become the guy. They are the potential long-term franchise QB this team has long sought. And if neither guy steps up, you draft yet another QB next year, and keep doing it until you find your guy.

Even in this scenario, say Fitzpatrick wins, you have Geno on the bench 8-10 weeks, like Foles with Chip Kelly when Vick started 2 years ago, where when Fitz gets hurt, the law of averages say Fitz will indeed get hurt, to step in and show what he has in Chan's system...could be win/win.

 

[sg3]

Even in this scenario, say Fitzpatrick wins, you have Geno on the bench 8-10 weeks, like Foles with Chip Kelly when Vick started 2 years ago, where when Fitz gets hurt, the law of averages say Fitz will indeed get hurt, to step in and show what he has in Chan's system...could be win/win.

A few other possibilities you might consider

A) Fitzpatrick doesn't get hurt and the Jets have a winning season and make the postseason

OR

B) Jets draft Mariota at 6 and he wins starter or first backup posiition in camp and preseason. This also applies if Mariota is off the board and we draft Petty, Grayson or Hundley in a later round. Those 3 would have a chance IMO, any of the others not so much

OR

C)MacBowles agree they've seen enough of Smith in OTAs, TC and PS and release him outright and go with Fitzpatrick starting, the rookie and Simms backing up and available in case of injury


I think the C) will be the best scenario for the Jets and hopefully, A) the way the 2015 season plays out

Let's go Jets

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

I'm definitely in.

It's a bet I'd LOVE to lose, but I'd be surprised if Geno is on the team beyond his rookie contract . . .

I'am in but lets up the anty:

if the Geno unfaithful such as myself lose and Smith turns out to be a stud then those fans (including me) will have to change their signatures of their post IN ALL OF 2016 to:

"I WAS WRONG ABOUT GENO, I'AM A FOOL AND AM EATING CROW, JETS82 WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG"

If Jets82 is wrong about Geno then his post must include all of the Geno unfaithful in this bet and must read:

"I DONT KNOW HOW TO EVALUATE QB'S AS I THOUGHT GENO WAS LEGIT FOR 2015, DONT ASK ME ABOUT QB'S"

Any one ready to place their money where their mouth is? I'am ready. Hell, this is one bet I'd absolutely love to lose for the betterment of the team. :smiley-transport014

 

[OCCH]

I'am in but lets up the anty:

if the Geno unfaithful such as myself lose and Smith turns out to be a stud then those fans (including me) will have to change their signatures of their post IN ALL OF 2016 to:

"I WAS WRONG ABOUT GENO, I'AM A FOOL AND AM EATING CROW, JETS82 WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG"

If Jets82 is wrong about Geno then his post must include all of the Geno unfaithful in this bet and must read:

"I DONT KNOW HOW TO EVALUATE QB'S AS I THOUGHT GENO WAS LEGIT FOR 2015, DONT ASK ME ABOUT QB'S"

Any one ready to place their money where their mouth is? I'am ready. Hell, this is one bet I'd absolutely love to lose for the betterment of the team. :smiley-transport014

I don't even care what the Geno-guys have to do if they lose -- I'll GLADLY sign up for my end of the bargain.

I'm the type of guy who predicts it will rain tomorrow just to make sure it won't. So if I'm voting against Geno, we can all expect a Pro-Bowl season!

But seriously, it's simply the "throwing good money after bad" argument. If you want to keep holding on to that investment hoping it magically skyrockets (even though it's done NOTHING to give you that impression), go for it. But at some point you have to look at it objectively and stop the bleeding before it gets any worse.

We've got the kid at a reasonable price, so no reason to dump him now. But I had to listen to all the reasons LAST year was going to be his coming out party (because of how he ended 2013), and unfortunately I'm no more optimistic now than I was then . . .

 

[ucrenegade]

I love sig bets

 

[sg3]

I love sig bets

Never made one, never will

 

[jets82]

I'am in but lets up the anty:

if the Geno unfaithful such as myself lose and Smith turns out to be a stud then those fans (including me) will have to change their signatures of their post IN ALL OF 2016 to:

"I WAS WRONG ABOUT GENO, I'AM A FOOL AND AM EATING CROW, JETS82 WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG"

If Jets82 is wrong about Geno then his post must include all of the Geno unfaithful in this bet and must read:

"I DONT KNOW HOW TO EVALUATE QB'S AS I THOUGHT GENO WAS LEGIT FOR 2015, DONT ASK ME ABOUT QB'S"

Any one ready to place their money where their mouth is? I'am ready. Hell, this is one bet I'd absolutely love to lose for the betterment of the team. :smiley-transport014

You know I'm in, NO DOUBT! Hell, sg3 and I started this bogus bet so you know I'm not backing down to nobody. Let's do this! This board has become very, very exciting. Nothing wrong with a little JetsNationFan bet to keep it live and interesting. Like you said, in the end this is for the betterment of the team so I don't mind eating crow at all as long as we have the right guy in there and were winning. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!

 

[jets82]

I don't even care what the Geno-guys have to do if they lose -- I'll GLADLY sign up for my end of the bargain.

I'm the type of guy who predicts it will rain tomorrow just to make sure it won't. So if I'm voting against Geno, we can all expect a Pro-Bowl season!

But seriously, it's simply the "throwing good money after bad" argument. If you want to keep holding on to that investment hoping it magically skyrockets (even though it's done NOTHING to give you that impression), go for it. But at some point you have to look at it objectively and stop the bleeding before it gets any worse.

We've got the kid at a reasonable price, so no reason to dump him now. But I had to listen to all the reasons LAST year was going to be his coming out party (because of how he ended 2013), and unfortunately I'm no more optimistic now than I was then . . .

I hear you and understand but all I can say to you is this, Geno had garbage teams both years he was here. Year one his offense was the worst in the NFL in years period but the D was respectable. The second year his offense was abit better with Decker and Amaro but nothing really worth talking about and the D was horrible pretty much. This can not be argued as they are facts. Lets not forget the horrid coaching and GM he had. This year he has a real team, coaching and management and the team isn't done building yet. Call it excuses if you want but I call them facts. If Geno can't make something positive happen this year then he shouldn't be a Jet period and TRUST ME, I will shut the hell up about this period and move on!

 

[jets82]

I see sg3 is still talking his garbage of Geno being cut with his three options here, LOL! I'm guessing a few others are co-signing that sentiment also. We'll see, we shall see!

 

[jets82]

I'm not on the fence, though. I'm not just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I have a very clear opinion.

Fitzpatrick's addition was a part of the vision I had in mind, and the old-time scouters can tell you I long called for Fitzpatrick to come to the Jets and be in that QB room. That vision also involves drafting another young QB, whether Mariota, Winston, Petty, Grayson, Mannion, someone.

Short term, Fitzpatrick is better suited than any young QB the Jets would have, Geno or a draft pick. His numbers last year were great. He should have the inside track to the start. Whichever one of Geno or the drafted QB ascended to the starter role, both physically and mentally, they become the guy. They are the potential long-term franchise QB this team has long sought. And if neither guy steps up, you draft yet another QB next year, and keep doing it until you find your guy.

I hear you but disagree abit. Unless we draft Winston by some chance, I don't see Fitz or any other rookie beating out Geno this year period. Mariota will be a project like Geno was and will need at least a year to be ready to go. The other rookie QBs will be projects also that will need a year or more. If I'm right then Geno is automatically the #2 and I don't see Fitz beating Geno out in anyway at all, which will make Geno the #1 . Question is, can he play well enough the entire season and keep the job and also stay healthy? As long as he can stay healthy, with this roster that is not complete yet and still building I believe Geno will keep the job all year and do very well. Lets not forget about Gailey and Bowles who will put Geno in the best positions to produce. Its all about Geno making something positive happen with it and I think he has learned enough over the past two years to do positive things but we'll see.