Geno Smith worked out with Tom House (Brady's personal QB coach) during offseason

LIJETFAN

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Jet Fanatics
Agreed, can't argue that!

Here's the bottom line on Geno - whether you think he stinks and will in perpetuity or has a chance to develop, one thing everyone can agree on is that he has been very inconsistent. He has had moments where he looked like a potentially good NFL starter. And he has had moments which were downright atrocious. The fact is that what we think really doesn't matter. There's a new coaching staff, new GM, and they will have their own opinions. I think they will make the right decision with respect to Geno. They will either draft the next starter, or Fitzpatrick or Geno will win the job in camp, and go from there.

If Geno does win the job and he continues being turnover prone, I am sure he will not keep his job very long. Bowles does not appear to be fond of turnovers. He wants complimentary football. So no matter what happens, I think the decision on Geno will be made by some pretty good coaches and talent evaluators. I think they'll figure this out. The feud about Geno's future as a Jet will be decided in due course.
 
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JohnnyBaseball1

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Good point, LI. The whole reason we brought in a whole new staff is to make decisions like this. I like what I've seen from them so far, I have to trust their evaluations. They're certainly more qualified than I am to judge these things. If they think Geno is the best choice, I will assume they have good reasons for believing that, whether they are apparent to me or not.
 
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sg3

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I think a good example to compare MacBowles to Tanny/IdzikWRECKS is that they have already traded for legitimate competition in Fitzpatrick and have said another QB is also on the way

The prior geniuses thought 67 year old Mark Brunell was adequate support and competition for Sanchez and Mike Vick was the same for Geno, despite admitting to either not being ready or interested in the starting job.

This year we will have real competition resulting in a big improvement at the QB position

May the best man win

Go Jets
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
Johnnybaseball and LI, I appreciate the unbiased post and thought process. The new regime has done a great job and I do have 100% faith they will make the best decision at all positions. IMO they traded for Fitz to compete for the starting spot. Whether it be with Geno or a rookie. I don't believe he will beat out Geno but that's just me. Many don't feel the same and I respect that. As for the rookies, Winston will no doubt be our game one starter and earn it. Mariota I don't think can beat out Geno or Fitz. At least this year anyway. All the other rookie QBs I feel the same way about. The new regime are doing their due diligence and will get this right. Whatever that might be and I'm looking forward to a playoff year with the right QB guiding them there.
 

OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
You know what's funny...I started reading your post and forgot which thread I clicked...I thought you were talking about Winston for a second...because all were true of him last year until I got to point 4...

The guy threw 18 picks in 13 games against college talent...and Cossell said the defense dropped 13 more...imagine 31 INTs in 13 games against college talent...but he'll go #1 .

All this talk wont matter who our QB is if we never give them time to develop...all these convos sound like our fans want Aaron Rodgers day 1 after we draft them. Kind of sad sometimes...

This post makes me want Winston less, but unfortunately doesn't make me feel any better about the guy we already have . . .
 

Superman55

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Jet Fanatics
It doesn't matter who you draft, they aren't goig to be Anything special the first 2 years...especially from this craptastic QB draft class, IMO. Even the best QB in this class was a turnover machine last year..,what do you think he'll do in the NFL?i expect this fan base to want a new QB every 2 years since none will be Drew Brees after 2 season...
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
It doesn't matter who you draft, they aren't goig to be Anything special the first 2 years...especially from this craptastic QB draft class, IMO. Even the best QB in this class was a turnover machine last year..,what do you think he'll do in the NFL?i expect this fan base to want a new QB every 2 years since none will be Drew Brees after 2 season...
In other words are you saying Geno has a chance to being very good this year and people are giving up him to soon or is he the exception to what your saying and he'll be garbage regardless because that's who he is?
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
In other words are you saying Geno has a chance to being very good this year and people are giving up him to soon or is he the exception to what your saying and he'll be garbage regardless because that's who he is?

I'm saying after 2 years, you still have no idea what you have. It goes both ways, Chargers gave up on Brees too early, Titans committed to Vince Young too early. 2 seasons isn't enough time in either direction.
 

McJet

Repeat Offender Pro Bowler
Jet Fanatics
Also, part of being a franchise QB is handling pressure/adversity. So some of these team issues may have impacted him, true, and that can be seen as a reason to believe he could play better next season. But his failure to handle those issues successfully could also certainly be seen as an argument against him. Maybe no QB could have won the Super Bowl with last year's Jets team. But I do think some of them could have won more games with all the same issues swirling around the team.

Geno had some bad games last year, bad. He is not the sole reason the Jets lost 12 games last year. Rex's vaunted defense gave up an average of 25 plus points a game. There were also some horrible calls that didn't go the Jets way, the Bears game comes to mind.
New GM, New coaches, new system, new season. Everyone gets a new start.
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
I'm saying after 2 years, you still have no idea what you have. It goes both ways, Chargers gave up on Brees too early, Titans committed to Vince Young too early. 2 seasons isn't enough time in either direction.
Makes sense and I've been saying this all along, just not in that way. Damn, I could of simply said it like that and made my point without all this damn back and forth. LOL!
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
Geno had some bad games last year, bad. He is not the sole reason the Jets lost 12 games last year. Rex's vaunted defense gave up an average of 25 plus points a game. There were also some horrible calls that didn't go the Jets way, the Bears game comes to mind.
New GM, New coaches, new system, new season. Everyone gets a new start.
Yet another great way to put it that I didn't think of.
 
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sg3

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It doesn't matter who you draft, they aren't goig to be Anything special the first 2 years...especially from this craptastic QB draft class, IMO. Even the best QB in this class was a turnover machine last year..,what do you think he'll do in the NFL?i expect this fan base to want a new QB every 2 years since none will be Drew Brees after 2 season...
In other words, you're saying that even though Geno is the worst piece of crap in the NFL, we can at least have a fighting chance this season with Fitzpatrick or we can start Geno, guarantee that he gets MacBowles fired, gets us the first pick next season, and we get the kid from MSU for the new Coach, GM and OC
 

Superman55

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In other words, you're saying that even though Geno is the worst piece of crap in the NFL, we can at least have a fighting chance this season with Fitzpatrick or we can start Geno, guarantee that he gets MacBowles fired, gets us the first pick next season, and we get the kid from MSU for the new Coach, GM and OC

You think everyone sucks...marino never won a super bowl! He sucks...youd never want him on the Jets. Jim kelly is a choke artist in your mind, you'd never want him on the Jets.

You think everyone sucks...so what's the point?

You plead grass is greener, and have no idea what's on the other side of the fence. Your remarks on Rivers show a complete disregard and knowledge of football talent...there's no point in having QB discussions with you when you think guys like Rivers, Marino, and Jim Kelly suck...

Rivers is already the 20th all time passing leader and will pass Montana this year, if he plays 3 years he'll be one of the top 10 all time passing leaders...but you say he sucks despite being on track to be one of the greatest, but like Marino...he sucks...as for play-off records, Dan Fouts threw 12 TDs and 16 INts in the play-offs, does he suck now too? Fouts in his first play-off game threw 5 INTs, in his last play-off game...he threw 5 more. I guess he's the worst all time QB in your eyes. yep, waste of time. I kind of feel you know as much about the QB position as you do about Pluto's atmosphere...
 
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sg3

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Agree 100 %, Clark


Congrats, you got the last word in, as in every thread you post at

You da man
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
You think everyone sucks...marino never won a super bowl! He sucks...youd never want him on the Jets. Jim kelly is a choke artist in your mind, you'd never want him on the Jets.

You think everyone sucks...so what's the point?

You plead grass is greener, and have no idea what's on the other side of the fence. Your remarks on Rivers show a complete disregard and knowledge of football talent...there's no point in having QB discussions with you when you think guys like Rivers, Marino, and Jim Kelly suck...

Rivers is already the 20th all time passing leader and will pass Montana this year, if he plays 3 years he'll be one of the top 10 all time passing leaders...but you say he sucks despite being on track to be one of the greatest, but like Marino...he sucks...as for play-off records, Dan Fouts threw 12 TDs and 16 INts in the play-offs, does he suck now too? Fouts in his first play-off game threw 5 INTs, in his last play-off game...he threw 5 more. I guess he's the worst all time QB in your eyes. yep, waste of time. I kind of feel you know as much about the QB position as you do about Pluto's atmosphere...
Welcome to my world of pain, LOL!
 
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sg3

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Supe is a good poster and a loyal Jet fan

He is flexible and smart and he knows when a train has left the station and not one to.keep pining for it to turn back
 
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