With the 6th pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, The New York Jets Select?

[gmf1369]

Why can't he do both? They wasted a year, that's valuable time. His footwork is not good. He's a statue back there, doesn't move around the pocket. He's stiff and he's even worse when under pressure. They should have fixed his mechanics while he picked up the game as the season progressed. When you draft someone in the second round you expect them to be somewhat competent that they can pick up the game fairly quickly.

Hack's best attribute is his arm.

you are kidding me right? third string behind Fizzlesticks and Petty not to mention Geno for those couple weeks, when were they going to spend time with him during the season... so the best thing they did was work with him in the class room... from his freshman year til him being drafted his overall from footwork, recognition skill set and pocket mobility was seriously hampered by the wonderful play of his offensive line oh meant live dummies, no one should or would of survived that beating on a game to game basis and come out still 100% capable as he was in his freshman year...

this kid is intelligent, getting his awareness through film study so when they work with him this off season he won't freak out... He will recognize defensive sets and not feel threatened that he is going take a bigger beaten then he did in college... remember these players are the cream of the crop from college, while he played against some the majority are not in the NFL now...

as quarterback, having the foundation and the moxy to keep getting back up and willing to fight through the worst to develop into the best is what they saw in this kid... every hit, he got back up and went to war with his team mates got pounded some more and just kept getting back up.... Never threw his team mates under the bus in post game pressers, always took the high road and saying he needs to get better...

like you said his arm is his ticket, being intelligent having football IQ and understand the game watching film makes him smarter... during this upcoming off season settling down under center or in shotgun being able to recognize blitz packages set his protection and make audible adjustments to counter defenses will be the least of his worry because that is what he did last year learning in film study... he probably picked the brain of Fitz who albeit sucks as a starter is intelligent himself...

a quarterback that is confident in his recognition skills, trusts his team mates and we surround him with enough weapons he can be a dangerous player if given the right chance to prove it...

we just have to wait n see, worst thing he doesn't pan out -- and we move on and draft another until we find the right one... but have a feeling he is the guy they are banking on to be that guy...

 

[Old#15]

Then if MM drafts OJ Howard, Fournette/Cook or Mike Williams/Davis, we know at least the leadership has faith in one of the kids and is building the weapons up around him. BTW, when is the first Off-season workout?

 

[gmf1369]

Then if MM drafts OJ Howard, Fournette/Cook or Mike Williams/Davis, we know at least the leadership has faith in one of the kids and is building the weapons up around him. BTW, when is the first Off-season workout?

• First off we don't need to invest in any one home run threat rather need many solid prospects to build the team upon...
• We are likely to run by committee adding a solid third would be good... We don't need a featured back in Fournette or Cook...
• We aren't in the need for a vertical wr since our current roster has three of those... If anything we need a volume wr (Switzer, Zay Jones)...
• We do have a need at te but they must feel that A.Jenkins can be that option maybe finding a tandem in the later rounds would bode well...
• Trading down seems like the best option opening the door to grab potential on day 2...

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These were last years dates:

First Day: April 18

Draft: April 28-30

OTA Offseason Workouts: May 24-26, May 31, June 1-2, June 6-9

Mandatory Minicamp: June 14-16

have to believe it will be something to those dates...

 

[HustlaoneJets]

• First off we don't need to invest in any one home run threat rather need many solid prospects to build the team upon...
• We are likely to run by committee adding a solid third would be good... We don't need a featured back in Fournette or Cook...
• We aren't in the need for a vertical wr since our current roster has three of those... If anything we need a volume wr (Switzer, Zay Jones)...
• We do have a need at te but they must feel that A.Jenkins can be that option maybe finding a tandem in the later rounds would bode well...
• Trading down seems like the best option opening the door to grab potential on day 2...

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These were last years dates:

First Day: April 18

Draft: April 28-30

OTA Offseason Workouts: May 24-26, May 31, June 1-2, June 6-9

Mandatory Minicamp: June 14-16

have to believe it will be something to those dates...

I have to strongly and respectfully disagree with every point you made on that post.

If Fournette is there, you take him, if he's not, you take the best player available and the best player available in my opinion is going to be Corey Davis. Otherwise the Jets would be a laughing stock not to take the best runner to come out of college since AP.

Fournette as long as he stays healthy can be the rock our offense needs. It has OBVIOUSLY not worked having a tandem of backs to be champion in this league without an all time elite quarterback. The last time we almost made it we had the best running game in the league, we need to go back to that formula with a potential superstar qb on our roster already, help them out.

You take the best player available. Our defense couldn't stay off the field because our offense was constantly 3 and out and was never able to take pressure off of the defense. Obviously if Fournette is gone dont be stupid, take the best player available and take Corey Davis, i dont see anybody else that would be as productive as him other than fournette that would be worth that high a pick, the kid is a stud. Odell Beckham Jr was taken at what 12? Sammy at 4 and Evans at 7?

Take Fournette, if not Davis. I would've said take Cook, but our offensive line is too bad for his type of agility, I may be wrong, so if both are gone, Id take Cook.

If you haven't already look at the Drafts of the past 10 years and look at the superstars and where they are selected. When you have a chance at one you take it no matter what.

 

[mykcuz]

Wishful thinking but you know what would be great? We trade #6 and our 2018 fourth for clevelands #12, and #33. At the same time we flip Sheldon and our own 2nd to the cowboys for their 1st (#28) and 2nd. This would give us 4 picks in the top 60:

1st: #12,#28
2nd: #33, #60

Picks: #12: Dalvin Cook,RB #28: David Njoku, TE
#33: TJ Watt, LB #60: Tredaius White, CB

now THAT would be one hell of a haul

So Dallas who wouldn't give us a first rounder last year, is now going to give us their 1st and 2nd?

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[NCgreen12]

Does anyone believe Mac has it in him to be a wheeler and dealer on draft day?? The last guy the Jets had like that was Tannenbaun and he usually only dealt upward as he seemed to believe in quality over quantity. I think most Jet fans believe the trade down makes the most sense due the teams need of talent at almost every position.

My gut tells me surrounded by all the speculations that he will remain at 6 and take an Adams/Hooker/Latimore type and proclaim he had a lot of offers but they weren't worth the gamble. I think taking one of the QB's at 6 is remote.

 

[Flyboys89]

Does anyone believe Mac has it in him to be a wheeler and dealer on draft day?? The last guy the Jets had like that was Tannenbaun and he usually only dealt upward as he seemed to believe in quality over quantity. I think most Jet fans believe the trade down makes the most sense due the teams need of talent at almost every position.

My gut tells me surrounded by all the speculations that he will remain at 6 and take an Adams/Hooker/Latimore type and proclaim he had a lot of offers but they weren't worth the gamble. I think taking one of the QB's at 6 is remote.

the irony here is that taking lattimore or hooker at 6, given both of their injury histories especially lattimore, is a massive gamble

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

the irony here is that taking lattimore or hooker at 6, given both of their injury histories especially lattimore, is a massive gamble

#6 has to be a home run can't miss pick or trade down.

 

[NCgreen12]

#6 has to be a home run can't miss pick or trade down.

I agree with you but what I'm saying is I do not think Mac is a wheeler and dealer and will end up playing it straight up at 6. I think he will try to move down but will come up short. I think his best scenario for a trade down is Watson goes number two to SF. If that happens a premium will be placed on Trubiski.

 

[Flyboys89]

I think you are right, and if u swap trubisky/Watson the same can be said. We may get more then several calls. Also, if Fournette somehow falls to 6 which I don't think he will, I believe teams will also be phoning us to trade into 6 to grab him. I love fournette and would be ecstatic if we picked him but for the right price, and so many needs, trading down again makes sense.

I can see quite a few teams having interest in a fournette trade at 6. Teams like Detroit (no RB, has the qb), Niners (need a dynamic play maker on offense), the Ravens (have built a strong team but need a RB), the Redskins, the Eagles, Tampa, just to name a few.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Does anyone believe Mac has it in him to be a wheeler and dealer on draft day?? The last guy the Jets had like that was Tannenbaun and he usually only dealt upward as he seemed to believe in quality over quantity. I think most Jet fans believe the trade down makes the most sense due the teams need of talent at almost every position.

My gut tells me surrounded by all the speculations that he will remain at 6 and take an Adams/Hooker/Latimore type and proclaim he had a lot of offers but they weren't worth the gamble. I think taking one of the QB's at 6 is remote.

I agree.

 

[ReallyBigfan]

I was originally strongly opposed to drafting Howard just on the principle of not drafting a TE so high, but the more I've read about him, the more I am convinced that he will be a major impact player and an every down TE who can block, get deep, and go across the middle, so I would be fine with drafting him even at 6. Besides him I'd be fine with Adams or Hooker. Fournette's injury history worries me same with Lattimore and his hamstrings. One of Adams, Hooker, or Howard should drop to us hopefully, otherwise I think trading down is the way to go. Unless Solomon Thomas somehow drops...

Assuming the Jets don't draft a QB early, a developmental guy I'd like to see them grab around rounds 5-6 is Joshua Dobbs from Tennessee.

 

[Old#15]

I was originally strongly opposed to drafting Howard just on the principle of not drafting a TE so high, but the more I've read about him, the more I am convinced that he will be a major impact player and an every down TE who can block, get deep, and go across the middle, so I would be fine with drafting him even at 6. Besides him I'd be fine with Adams or Hooker. Fournette's injury history worries me same with Lattimore and his hamstrings. One of Adams, Hooker, or Howard should drop to us hopefully, otherwise I think trading down is the way to go. Unless Solomon Thomas somehow drops...

Assuming the Jets don't draft a QB early, a developmental guy I'd like to see them grab around rounds 5-6 is Joshua Dobbs from Tennessee.

Agree with everything but the Solomon Thomas selection, don't think he is the edge rusher that we need. He is more of a 4-3 DT, so IMO a poor fit. Dobbs is an interesting developmental guy: very smart, good athlete, solid citizen and a decent arm. Problem is that he has accuracy issues and a bit slow in his decision making which he may never get rid of.

 

[NCgreen12]

I was originally strongly opposed to drafting Howard just on the principle of not drafting a TE so high, but the more I've read about him, the more I am convinced that he will be a major impact player and an every down TE who can block, get deep, and go across the middle, so I would be fine with drafting him even at 6. Besides him I'd be fine with Adams or Hooker. Fournette's injury history worries me same with Lattimore and his hamstrings. One of Adams, Hooker, or Howard should drop to us hopefully, otherwise I think trading down is the way to go. Unless Solomon Thomas somehow drops...

Assuming the Jets don't draft a QB early, a developmental guy I'd like to see them grab around rounds 5-6 is Joshua Dobbs from Tennessee.

The problem with developmental QB's is if you have too many of them on the roster (like the Jets) than no one gets the bulk of the coaching to get better. At this point we either need to draft Trubisky or Watson and say they are the QB of the future or ride this year out, go 3-13 and draft that guy next year.

 

[lounap23]

Draft OJ Howard...

 

[mykcuz]

I was originally strongly opposed to drafting Howard just on the principle of not drafting a TE so high, but the more I've read about him, the more I am convinced that he will be a major impact player and an every down TE who can block, get deep, and go across the middle, so I would be fine with drafting him even at 6. Besides him I'd be fine with Adams or Hooker. Fournette's injury history worries me same with Lattimore and his hamstrings. One of Adams, Hooker, or Howard should drop to us hopefully, otherwise I think trading down is the way to go. Unless Solomon Thomas somehow drops...

Assuming the Jets don't draft a QB early, a developmental guy I'd like to see them grab around rounds 5-6 is Joshua Dobbs from Tennessee.

Number 6 is too important to draft a te.

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[BlindsideD'Brick]

Number 6 is too important to draft a te.

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I've never understood the logic behind not drafting TE's, Safeties, or interior linemen with high first rounders. If you have a Tony Gonzalez, Ed Reed, or Steve Hutchinson type of player available, I believe you take him. OJ Howard is widely considered one of the best TE prospects to come out in years. And he's multidimensional. And he's one of the safest picks in this draft.

I understand the pessimistic POV from Jets fans because of history. But just imagine what a good TE would do for the offense. It opens things up for the receivers when defense's have to account for the TE over the middle.

 

[jetgreen13]

I've never understood the logic behind not drafting TE's, Safeties, or interior linemen with high first rounders. If you have a Tony Gonzalez, Ed Reed, or Steve Hutchinson type of player available, I believe you take him. OJ Howard is widely considered one of the best TE prospects to come out in years. And he's multidimensional. And he's one of the safest picks in this draft.

I understand the pessimistic POV from Jets fans because of history. But just imagine what a good TE would do for the offense. It opens things up for the receivers when defense's have to account for the TE over the middle.

gonzalez was picked 13th, reed was picked 24th & hutchingson was picked 17th..

granted, as i'm sure you would have guessed, i did have to look that up.. & yes, i absolutely did.. still, i would have bet pretty good money none of them were top 10 picks..

 

[gmf1369]

wonder if we stay put do we dare draft Temple's Haason Reddick who could bring another dimension to our pass rush...

would like to still trade down and maybe still grab him but doubt he will be there...

 

[jetgreen13]

wonder if we stay put do we dare draft Temple's Haason Reddick who could bring another dimension to our pass rush...

would like to still trade down and maybe still grab him but doubt he will be there...

OK, just googled the kid..

maccagnan hasn't come close to building up enough good will to draft a DE who's listed as being slightly bigger than lee..