2015 Predictions for Ryan Fitzpatrick

[flgreen]

Well that chart was about useless at that scale. but it shows that Smith was about 2.95 seconds to pressure 4.89 seconds to throw, Fitz was 2.54 seconds to pressure, 4.86 seconds to throw. Both plenty of time to throw.

Here's the link https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Greater-Than-3.6-Seconds.png

BTW the chart was from PFF. Pretty good chart. Sacks are a pretty poor measure of protection. A lot of time QB's create sacks by doing stupid stuff like running in the wrong direction. Smith had some of the longest time to pressure, which indicates that the OL was doing a good job in spite of the sacks

 

[jetkwondo]

I got some feedback from bills fans about Gailey and Fitz on the Bills scout board months back.. Seems pretty positive overall!

http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/forums/1701-rockpile/13750735-chan-gailey

 

[Superman55]

i wasn't going by sacks i was going by the amount of time he had to look for a open wr in buffalo.

yes he wasn't sacked as much because that is part of gaileys plan he likes a oline that will move not just block like the old redskins HOF oline.

gaileys offense is predicated on the oline to adjust and adapt on the fly.

just because you don't like fitzpatrick you have to pull this dumb comparison out of air to counteract my positive review.

next time you do try and keep on the same topic at least i mentioned nothing about sacks

A lot of emotion in this post. Did SG3 get your log-in? You guys are like the same posters these day...unless he's using both accounts. That would make sense.

Am I constantly putting Fitz down or just not putting him on a pedestal? I just pointed out his pressure and swiss cheese oline may not be as bad as you imply. FL did the same thing below your post. But your butt didnt hurt so much about that post. I said both QBs have stunk, Geno and Fitz...I even said we'd go 8-8 no matter which one started...but I need to remember when I am and am not responding to SG3's army...that way their panties dont get in a bunch if you say something negative about Fitzpatrick.

Looks like he'll be in the Jets hall of fame before week 1 around here...

 

[flgreen]

A lot of emotion in this post. Did SG3 get your log-in? You guys are like the same posters these day...unless he's using both accounts. That would make sense.

Am I constantly putting Fitz down or just not putting him on a pedestal? I just pointed out his pressure and swiss cheese oline may not be as bad as you imply. FL did the same thing below your post. But your butt didnt hurt so much about that post. I said both QBs have stunk, Geno and Fitz...I even said we'd go 8-8 no matter which one started...but I need to remember when I am and am not responding to SG3's army...that way their panties dont get in a bunch if you say something negative about Fitzpatrick.

Looks like he'll be in the Jets hall of fame before week 1 around here...

Just wondering, why your taunting Sg3 when he's not involved in this discussion?

 

[ucrenegade]

A lot of emotion in this post. Did SG3 get your log-in? You guys are like the same posters these day...unless he's using both accounts. That would make sense.

Am I constantly putting Fitz down or just not putting him on a pedestal? I just pointed out his pressure and swiss cheese oline may not be as bad as you imply. FL did the same thing below your post. But your butt didnt hurt so much about that post. I said both QBs have stunk, Geno and Fitz...I even said we'd go 8-8 no matter which one started...but I need to remember when I am and am not responding to SG3's army...that way their panties dont get in a bunch if you say something negative about Fitzpatrick.

Looks like he'll be in the Jets hall of fame before week 1 around here...

nope was just irritated because you complain about topics being de-railed and here is a good example maybe you didn't intend to but to me it looked like you were doing the same thing anytime fitz is mentioned as other people do when geno is mentioned.

just pointing out your doing what you want other people to stop doing

 

[ucrenegade]

best case------------11-5 our defense has to win us a game or two

probable-----------9-7 or 10-6 first round exit

worst 7-9--------------he plays old and our team doesn't gell

 

[Bigmoe]

We got our average to slightly above average QB in Fitzpatrick?

I hear a lot of people kind of saying it, but no testicles Those are balls..

So yea I'll say average at best for Fitz
And I got the" balls " your term not mine
To say Geno couldn't sniff Fitz's jock strap
Close enough?

 

[SackExchange]

with marshall and decker and some of the young WRs surrounding him and a hopefully decent running game, i can see him being in the top 18 in rating this year.

I agree. I don't see how it is so out of the realm of possibility that last year's #9 in passer rating would be at least 18th this year.

 

[Bronx]

I believe Stafford was ranked lower in passer rating than Fitz, so that stat doesn't mean too much to me


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[OCCH]

so we think Fitzpatrick is an NFL caliber starting QB? Im just confirming what the expectation is...top 15 QB...that would make him average, slightly above...

Are we saying we traded for a top 15 QB...is that what I am hearing? We got our average to slightly above average QB in Fitzpatrick?

I hear a lot of people kind of saying it, but no testicles yet except for SG3 who said he'd take us to 12-4 (that's division title status). Those are balls.

Im wondering how many other people truly feel we landed a top NFL QB in Fitzpatrick...top 15 would be a top NFL QB...we're talking better than Cam Newton, Foles, Tannehill, and Flacco. Did we just land that guy in Ryan Fitzpatrick? is that what we're expecting? Just checking to see where JetsFansUnited stand on this guy from an expectation standpoint.

If we landed a top 15 QB, this team likely wins 10-12 games. I predicted 8, regardless of QB, but if he's top 15 like some are saying...where is this team's weakness? We should be coasting into the play-offs...

I fully expect Fits to be a disappointment from a "quality NFL QB" perspective, but an upgrade from what we've had to endure since Penny . . .

 

[mykcuz]

Eli is also a winner Savage. You cannot say the same about Fitz. The fact is, you can never say that. He's always been a loser despite playing for five different teams.

Other than the Giants 2 super bowl runs, eli has had some pretty terrible regular season games. In fact they are the definition of hot and cold. The Giants are terrible, fans are calling eli a bust and for Coughlin to be fired. Then on a mediocre year, the get hot late and run the table. Now those same fans think eli is great.
Then for 3 years eli stunk, giants fans again called for Coughlin to go, and say eli got us a ring but it was a fluke. Then they run the table again.

This is how giants fans perceive eli. The reality is eli has had a pretty mediocre career in which he sprinkled 2 super bowl runs.

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[mykcuz]

so we think Fitzpatrick is an NFL caliber starting QB? Im just confirming what the expectation is...top 15 QB...that would make him average, slightly above...

Are we saying we traded for a top 15 QB...is that what I am hearing? We got our average to slightly above average QB in Fitzpatrick?

I hear a lot of people kind of saying it, but no testicles yet except for SG3 who said he'd take us to 12-4 (that's division title status). Those are balls.

Im wondering how many other people truly feel we landed a top NFL QB in Fitzpatrick...top 15 would be a top NFL QB...we're talking better than Cam Newton, Foles, Tannehill, and Flacco. Did we just land that guy in Ryan Fitzpatrick? is that what we're expecting? Just checking to see where JetsFansUnited stand on this guy from an expectation standpoint.

If we landed a top 15 QB, this team likely wins 10-12 games. I predicted 8, regardless of QB, but if he's top 15 like some are saying...where is this team's weakness? We should be coasting into the play-offs...

I already posted 2 weeks ago that Fitz would be top 18. Geno was 32. So even if Fitz plays worse than last year, it would be an upgrade.

There's also the possibility that we start the year without Richardson and mo on the field. That would greatly expose any qb on our roster.

But, with Fitz being plugged into this offense, top 15 ranking is absolutely possible, not that he is top 15 anywhere he goes, but in this position he can likely be.

Of course, the nfl is unpredictable. A couple injuries or suspensions, and this season can be lost. But our defense has the potential to be historic, is not guaranteed, but the pieces are there. This line can be dominant, and now has tremendous depth helping our guys stay fresh late. Add our secondary on top, and it really is exciting.

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[Superman55]

I already posted 2 weeks ago that Fitz would be top 18. Geno was 32. So even if Fitz plays worse than last year, it would be an upgrade.

There's also the possibility that we start the year without Richardson and mo on the field. That would greatly expose any qb on our roster.

But, with Fitz being plugged into this offense, top 15 ranking is absolutely possible, not that he is top 15 anywhere he goes, but in this position he can likely be.

Of course, the nfl is unpredictable. A couple injuries or suspensions, and this season can be lost. But our defense has the potential to be historic, is not guaranteed, but the pieces are there. This line can be dominant, and now has tremendous depth helping our guys stay fresh late. Add our secondary on top, and it really is exciting.

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How does Mo and Sheldon not being on the field make things harder for Fitz? Andrew Luck has never had a defense of any kind for the Colts and that doesn't stop him from [passing Brady and Manning as one of the top 3 QBs in the NFL...I'm not following that statement. If anything, if gives the QB more time to analyze with the OC what the defense is doing...

Also, Geno was 29th, not 32nd. Carr, Bortles, Hoyer, and McCown were all rated below Geno.

Hopefully you're right on Fitz.

 

[Superman55]

I agree. I don't see how it is so out of the realm of possibility that last year's #9 in passer rating would be at least 18th this year.

Its not out of the realm...im asking if that's our expectation...it sounds like we have a top NFL QB that just stepped into the driver's seat. If that is the case, this defense on paper is the best we've had in...maybe ever. If we have a top 18 QB...shouldnt we expect a run like when Vinny T stepped in...why not? It sounds like we think at least that good of a QB, right?

 

[Superman55]

So yea I'll say average at best for Fitz
And I got the" balls " your term not mine
To say Geno couldn't sniff Fitz's jock strap
Close enough?

perfect way to tie it together.

 

[Bigmoe]

perfect way to tie it together.

A new superheroes in town

 

[Superman55]

But I think everyone knows that -- pretty much every fan here would sign up for "average" in a hearbeat, no?

And if we're "throwing out aberrations", we'd have to get rid of Geno's final game against Miami, which REALLY makes his numbers take a turn for the worse.

Unfortunately it isn't going to take much for us to feel we've gotten better at QB, regardless of who ends up behind center . . .

Except Geno was year 2 and Fitz year 10...

If you said, what are Geno and Fitzpatrciks number when they don't face the Jags, Raiders, and Titans?

Geno 11 TDs and 12 INTs
fitzpatrick 8 TDs and 8 INTs

Not a huge difference for a 10 year vet, IMO, and I don't feel either were "average."

 

[mykcuz]

How does Mo and Sheldon not being on the field make things harder for Fitz? Andrew Luck has never had a defense of any kind for the Colts and that doesn't stop him from [passing Brady and Manning as one of the top 3 QBs in the NFL...I'm not following that statement. If anything, if gives the QB more time to analyze with the OC what the defense is doing...

Also, Geno was 29th, not 32nd. Carr, Bortles, Hoyer, and McCown were all rated below Geno.

Hopefully you're right on Fitz.

Well, as you may recall, if you have a dominant defense you can keep the other teams offense off the field and decrease the amount of points you must score.

Field position. ..

A dominant d let's your offense play to their game plan instead of going into panic mode passing every down.

Remember when Sanchez just had to manage to score 10 points in 4 quarters to get a win?

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[OCCH]

Except Geno was year 2 and Fitz year 10...

If you said, what are Geno and Fitzpatrciks number when they don't face the Jags, Raiders, and Titans?

Geno 11 TDs and 12 INTs
fitzpatrick 8 TDs and 8 INTs

Not a huge difference for a 10 year vet, IMO, and I don't feel either were "average."

Everyone wants to knock Fitz for being a 10 year vet, but how many QBs never come anywhere close to that long a tenure? At this moment do you think Geno will be in the league 10 years from now, never mind starting?

I know hope springs eternal when "potential" is involved, and I would love nothing more than to see Geno achieve it. But the fact remains 6 different teams looked at Fitz and said "I think this guy can help us" -- do you think Geno ever reaches half that amount?

 

[Mainejet]

Well, here's MY review of the Chan Gailey/Ryan Fitzpatrick..........

It is a pathetic failure of an offense that has already failed several times over, not only from the standpoint of the QB but also and equally from the standpoint of the OC himself.

He's been a somewhat successful collegiate coach and a terrible professional HC. As an OC he's been so-so at best. Most of the time because he hasn't had any talent at QB. That just so seems to be the issue with the New York Jets and Chan Gailey or even Bill Walsh himself would not be able to do anything with this offense.


The NYJ have some very good pieces on offense, but ultimately it will fail and appear basically abysmal because in a QB driven league, the Jets do not have a QB and no matter what coaching acumen Chan Gailey brings to the table it does not change.

This season will likely be a disappointment because the offense will fail all the other units on the team.