#6 pick in 2015 - Jets select Leonard Williams DT USC

[jets82]

Unless we go to a 4-3, did we get a Starting DL with the 6th overall pick. Will Leonard Williams start over Mo, Rich or Snacks? Even though he is considered the top player in the Draft or the BPA, he may be nothing but a backup for a while. He is not a QB who sits back and learns. I am not saying he is not good. I hope and pray that he turns out to be the next greatest DL in the history of football.

I'm with you on this. Williams may turn out to be the next Reggie White the way a lot of people speak of him. If this is the case, then we can't be upset here. But we don't know that yet and we are stacked at the d-line, which makes this pick over and beyond. If we trade Mo then you got me but I just can't understand it right now.

 

[ucrenegade]

I'm with you on this. Williams may turn out to be the next Reggie White the way a lot of people speak of him. If this is the case, then we can't be upset here. But we don't know that yet and we are stacked at the d-line, which makes this pick over and beyond. If we trade Mo then you got me but I just can't understand it right now.

let me help you understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII

New England set NFL records with 589 points scored (an average of 36.8 points per game) (since broken by the 2013 Broncos), 75 total touchdowns, and a net differential of +315 points (they gave up 274 points, fourth best in the league). Some experts have suggested that the Patriots' 16–0 record is the culmination of a larger trend towards better records for top NFL teams since the league realignment in 2002

giants had strahan, tuck, and drafted JPP. In the SB that line held the pats to 14 points.

 

[Superman55]

Damon Harrison ✔@BigDame900
Welcome to Jets Nation @leonardwilliams time to hunt!! #DLineStrong

 

[Lakerfan80]

Williams was graded much higher than White. Williams is 2 years younger than White, who had one great season dominating the competetion as a 22 year old in West Virginia's offense. Gruden spoke on how White almost exclusively lines up on the right nd has lots of work to do in his tree route..Tavon Austin also blew by everyone at WVU and was picked in the top 10.

 

[jets82]

let me help you understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII

New England set NFL records with 589 points scored (an average of 36.8 points per game) (since broken by the 2013 Broncos), 75 total touchdowns, and a net differential of +315 points (they gave up 274 points, fourth best in the league). Some experts have suggested that the Patriots' 16–0 record is the culmination of a larger trend towards better records for top NFL teams since the league realignment in 2002

giants had strahan, tuck, and drafted JPP. In the SB that line held the pats to 14 points.

True enough, can't argue this point.

 

[OCCH]

Unless we go to a 4-3, did we get a Starting DL with the 6th overall pick. Will Leonard Williams start over Mo, Rich or Snacks? Even though he is considered the top player in the Draft or the BPA, he may be nothing but a backup for a while. He is not a QB who sits back and learns. I am not saying he is not good. I hope and pray that he turns out to be the next greatest DL in the history of football.

Do you really think White was going to put up staggering numbers with Marshall, Decker, Kerley, Amaro and a strong running game to compete with?

I'd be SHOCKED if Williams doesn't have a bigger impact his rookie year than White does, and that's WITH a competent QB in Chicago . . .

 

[jetfandreamer]

Is anyone complaining in INDY they took Dorsett, with MANY defensive needs..NO TAKE BPA..anyone complaining about this pick..to be honest..I wouldnt want running my team...

 

[Superman55]

Rich Cimini @RichCimini
Jets don't have a franchise QB, but at least they can make life miserable for those who do. #WiliamsandSons #nyj

 

[Superman55]

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/05/jets_draft_pick_leonard_williams_already_calls_out.html


"I know that's a big rivalry ... They have a lot of pictures up of Brady around the complex," said Williams of the Jets, whose facility he visited in the run-up to the draft.

In his next breath, Williams dropped the gauntlet.

"I'm looking forward to a great matchup against him," Williams said. "I hope that he is my first sack of my career, against Tom Brady."

Boom. Roasted. Take that, Brady. Just pay no attention to the fact that the Jets don't play the Pats until Week 7.

 

[sg3]

I'm with you on this. Williams may turn out to be the next Reggie White the way a lot of people speak of him. If this is the case, then we can't be upset here. But we don't know that yet and we are stacked at the d-line, which makes this pick over and beyond. If we trade Mo then you got me but I just can't understand it right now.

I know you are sincere and respect that. But it seems to me that in every one of your many posts since Williams was picked, you say something like " we can't be upset" followed by your reasons for being upset that they didn't take a receiver.

 

[TurboJet]

I admit I didn't study up on Williams much pre-draft since I thought we had no shot at him.
At first I was pretty torn on the pick realizing it was Best-Player-Available and not an need like OLB.
The more info I gather on this kid the more I like this pick.
This kid (he's only 20) has all world potential.

I'm still concerned that the defensive scheme will hinder the potential of our D-line.
I want a system that plays to our players strengths and does not limit their ability or time on the field.
Time will tell...

 

[Jet Blast]

Rich Cimini @RichCimini
Jets don't have a franchise QB, but at least they can make life miserable for those who do. #WiliamsandSons #nyj

WilliamsandSons
Anarchy Inc.

I love it!

 

[jets82]

I know you are sincere and respect that. But it seems to me that in every one of your many posts since Williams was picked, you say something like " we can't be upset" followed by your reasons for being upset that they didn't take a receiver.

I am upset and don't understand the pick and voiced that in just about every post. I make no bones about that or try to hide it at all but I do realize the kind of player we did draft. He is a monster and will help this team immediately, whether we trade MO or not. Just like I thought White would have helped us immediately and IMOO, our QBs needed more help then our d-line did. If we drafted some second round DE project or any other position, I would be furious and not once would you see me posting, "We can't be but so upset" but I know the kind of player we have in Williams.

So I do realize Williams was a can't miss project, the best overall ranked player in all the draft period and may very well be the next Reggie White. He just wasn't a need for us and I believe White could be the next Dez or Al Toon or Julio Jones. A player that will just go up and get the ball and no matter who is around him, the ball is his, he knows it and goes and gets it. That kind of player could have helped our offense (QB mainly) out just as much, if not more as Williams can help our defense. In our particular team situation with a real shaky QB situation, the WR could have helped our team more then the DE IMO, that's all I'm saying.

 

[OCCH]

I am upset and don't understand the pick and voiced that in just about every post. I make no bones about that or try to hide it at all but I do realize the kind of player we did draft. He is a monster and will help this team immediately, whether we trade MO or not. Just like I thought White would have helped us immediately and IMOO, our QBs needed more help then our d-line did. If we drafted some second round DE project or any other position, I would be furious and not once would you see me posting, "We can't be but so upset" but I know the kind of player we have in Williams.

So I do realize Williams was a can't miss project, the best overall ranked player in all the draft period and may very well be the next Reggie White. He just wasn't a need for us and I believe White could be the next Dez or Al Toon or Julio Jones. A player that will just go up and get the ball and no matter who is around him, the ball is his, he knows it and goes and gets it. That kind of player could have helped our offense (QB mainly) out just as much, if not more as Williams can help our defense. In our particular team situation with a real shaky QB situation, the WR could have helped our team more then the DE IMO, that's all I'm saying.

I know I said this in another post (perhaps to you), but think about the reality around us:

2014 RD1 WRs:

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
OBJ
Brandin Cooks
Kelvin Benjamin

Which of those WRs made their QB "better"?

EJ was still benched, even with Watkins to throw to
TB still felt the need to get a controversial QB, even though last year's squad had Evans to throw to
OBJ played lights out, but it was FAR from Eli's best year
Cooks was fun to watch, but would he have produced the same going from Brees to Geno?
Benjamin was a monster in Carolina, and I'd say he's the best example of a QB "benefitting" from him being on the roster

None of those guys were flops, and White would be lucky to match their success. Yet they weren't the magic cure-all you seem to think White would have been.

I'll say it again -- I FULLY expect Williams to have bigger impact on our team than White would have, or even than White will in Chicago with a "real" QB throwing him the ball . . .

 

[Superman55]

I know I said this in another post (perhaps to you), but think about the reality around us:

2014 RD1 WRs:

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
OBJ
Brandin Cooks
Kelvin Benjamin

Which of those WRs made their QB "better"?

EJ was still benched, even with Watkins to throw to
TB still felt the need to get a controversial QB, even though last year's squad had Evans to throw to
OBJ played lights out, but it was FAR from Eli's best year
Cooks was fun to watch, but would he have produced the same going from Brees to Geno?
Benjamin was a monster in Carolina, and I'd say he's the best example of a QB "benefitting" from him being on the roster

None of those guys were flops, and White would be lucky to match their success. Yet they weren't the magic cure-all you seem to think White would have been.

I'll say it again -- I FULLY expect Williams to have bigger impact on our team than White would have, or even than White will in Chicago with a "real" QB throwing him the ball . . .

He'll also have a big impact in Wilkerson and Sheldon's contract years...

 

[Lakerfan80]

The Jets will draft a receiver by the time Sheldon is up for a contract in 3 years..or maybe we will find a receiver today who can be making an impact in 3 years...Sheldon's next contract isn't even close to being n issue.

 

[Copernicus]

I am upset and don't understand the pick and voiced that in just about every post. I make no bones about that or try to hide it at all but I do realize the kind of player we did draft. He is a monster and will help this team immediately, whether we trade MO or not. Just like I thought White would have helped us immediately and IMOO, our QBs needed more help then our d-line did. If we drafted some second round DE project or any other position, I would be furious and not once would you see me posting, "We can't be but so upset" but I know the kind of player we have in Williams.

So I do realize Williams was a can't miss project, the best overall ranked player in all the draft period and may very well be the next Reggie White. He just wasn't a need for us and I believe White could be the next Dez or Al Toon or Julio Jones. A player that will just go up and get the ball and no matter who is around him, the ball is his, he knows it and goes and gets it. That kind of player could have helped our offense (QB mainly) out just as much, if not more as Williams can help our defense. In our particular team situation with a real shaky QB situation, the WR could have helped our team more then the DE IMO, that's all I'm saying.

The more I read about Kevin White the less I like. He has not been asked to run many different patterns, lines up on the same side almost 90% of the time or more, and plays in a system that is not an NFL ready. I don't think that it is a given that Kevin White will be a stud.

 

[OCCH]

He'll also have a big impact in Wilkerson and Sheldon's contract years...

You know this how?

How do you know we won't have enough money? (especially since we're not doling out franchise QB $$)

How do you know all three are in the team's long-term plans?

How do you know there isn't a devastating injury awaiting us?

I realize these are rhetorical questions, and you can just as easily ask me "how do you know this won't blow up in our face?"

If Cooper was still on the board, I think the Jets would have taken him over Leonard. Maybe the same with Fowler. But it appears they simply didn't rate White as good a value at 6 as Leonard was.

In the end, I want as much talent on the team as possible. If that leads to the problem of "how do we pay it all?" IMO that's not a bad problem to have . . .

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Still some very good WR's on the board. Plus maybe Shaq Evans will be something.

 

[SackExchange]

I think that right now, the Jets have on paper the best defense in football. Keep Mo and add another pass rusher, and they could be a historic defense.

What I like about this is that it gives the Jets a clear identity. Since the firing of Kotite, the Jets have only hired defensive head coaches. They have used a disproportionate number of draft picks lately on defense. This is how you create an identity.

The Jets right now, big picture, as a franchise, very much have an identity. And they could have a defense that is absolutely frightening to opponents.