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Gramoah

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If that's the case, will we be drafting for Packers with one of our 2nd round picks like they do in the NBA, or do the rules preclude us from dealing current draftees?
Good question. I don't know. I've never seen it done in the NFL.
 

cheaterhater

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To me it’s pretty simple. It’s best if the packers wait until after June 1st. Also they probably want our second round pick this year. To us, it doesn’t matter if we wait until June 1st, plus we added a second second round pick Presumably to trade to them.

I think the deal is done June first with us picking whoever the packers want with our second, second round pick and then that pick is part of the trade after June first.

makes total sense and I don’t see why it couldn’t work that way
 

Oraelo

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If this does happen before the draft I have read a few times about the possibility of them swapping 1st round picks (13 and15) as part of the deal.
 

Gramoah

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I believe, and this is just me thinking, that the only discussions being had revolve around GB trying to figure out how to have their cake and eat too. They want our 2nd round pick so they can use it this year along with their several other picks to help Jordan Love survive as their new starter. They would also like to save a few bucks by doing the deal after June 1st. That being said CH's plan above isn't too far fetched. It should all become clear this weekend one way or the other and there are no other teams really involved.
 

Old#15

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Just googled this about trading drafted rookies (need to fact check):

Can a NFL rookie be traded?


Second, if a rookie is traded, his cap allotment remains with the team that originally drafted him, which make trades involving rookie players relatively rare. (This rule does not apply, however, to rookies that are waived by the teams that drafted them.)

So, if we did what I suggested earlier (drafting a player FOR Packers) then we would retain the CAP hit of that 2nd rounder. Therein lies the roadblock perhaps. JD is willing to give up this years #2, but doesn't want to accommodate Packers wish to announce the deal until after June 1 and incur the CAP hit for the player we drafted for Packers. Mental masturbation!
 

cheaterhater

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Just googled this about trading drafted rookies (need to fact check):

Can a NFL rookie be traded?


Second, if a rookie is traded, his cap allotment remains with the team that originally drafted him, which make trades involving rookie players relatively rare. (This rule does not apply, however, to rookies that are waived by the teams that drafted them.)

So, if we did what I suggested earlier (drafting a player FOR Packers) then we would retain the CAP hit of that 2nd rounder. Therein lies the roadblock perhaps. JD is willing to give up this years #2, but doesn't want to accommodate Packers wish to announce the deal until after June 1 and incur the CAP hit for the player we drafted for Packers. Mental masturbation!
That is odd
 

Gramoah

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Just googled this about trading drafted rookies (need to fact check):

Can a NFL rookie be traded?


Second, if a rookie is traded, his cap allotment remains with the team that originally drafted him, which make trades involving rookie players relatively rare. (This rule does not apply, however, to rookies that are waived by the teams that drafted them.)

So, if we did what I suggested earlier (drafting a player FOR Packers) then we would retain the CAP hit of that 2nd rounder. Therein lies the roadblock perhaps. JD is willing to give up this years #2, but doesn't want to accommodate Packers wish to announce the deal until after June 1 and incur the CAP hit for the player we drafted for Packers. Mental masturbation!
Love the terminology......................
 

MiJetFan

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If this does happen before the draft I have read a few times about the possibility of them swapping 1st round picks (13 and15) as part of the deal.
I have no problem with that. GB gets too save a little face, and everyone gets what they want.
 

MiJetFan

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I'm probably the only one who cares, but I would rather see anyone (well other than you know who) play QB this year than see this guy wear Namath's number. I think that it is going to be a bit painful to see.
I don't like it either but this is the way it is. They missed on Zach and instead of cutting their losses they're going the quick fix route. Probably gonna wind up getting everyone fired but we will see.
 

SackExchange

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I don't like it either but this is the way it is. They missed on Zach and instead of cutting their losses they're going the quick fix route. Probably gonna wind up getting everyone fired but we will see.
Definitely missed on Wilson. However, this quick fix route may not be a bad thing. With QBs being as expensive as they are, and taking up so much of the salary cap, there are only two ways to win:

1. Have a loaded roster and a young QB on a rookie contract, or
2. Have a stud veteran QB and a solid, young roster mostly on rookie contracts.

I think JD was hoping to follow the first option. However, the team had the second overall pick and liked Wilson. Regardless of what we think of Wilson, they had to strike. But it was before the rest of the roster was ready to support a young QB, so even if Wilson had been good, it might not have worked. So he took the young QB before he wanted to.

Now, he has to follow the second option. Many of the studs are on rookie deals. When it's time for most of them to be paid, Rodgers will be gone, his contract hit will have passed, and the team will be ready with a loaded roster to try to go with a young QB.

So, JD wanted to go option 1, but circumstances made him shift to option 2. That brings us to now. I think the long-term plan is to use Rodgers for option 2, but then to shift from option 2 to option 1 after Rodgers retires.
 

Fudbutter

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I don't like it either but this is the way it is. They missed on Zach and instead of cutting their losses they're going the quick fix route. Probably gonna wind up getting everyone fired but we will see.

What bothers me is that this isn't even a .500 team yet, There can be no quick fix.
 

MiJetFan

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Definitely missed on Wilson. However, this quick fix route may not be a bad thing. With QBs being as expensive as they are, and taking up so much of the salary cap, there are only two ways to win:

1. Have a loaded roster and a young QB on a rookie contract, or
2. Have a stud veteran QB and a solid, young roster mostly on rookie contracts.

I think JD was hoping to follow the first option. However, the team had the second overall pick and liked Wilson. Regardless of what we think of Wilson, they had to strike. But it was before the rest of the roster was ready to support a young QB, so even if Wilson had been good, it might not have worked. So he took the young QB before he wanted to.

Now, he has to follow the second option. Many of the studs are on rookie deals. When it's time for most of them to be paid, Rodgers will be gone, his contract hit will have passed, and the team will be ready with a loaded roster to try to go with a young QB.

So, JD wanted to go option 1, but circumstances made him shift to option 2. That brings us to now. I think the long-term plan is to use Rodgers for option 2, but then to shift from option 2 to option 1 after Rodgers retires.
Love the optimism Sack but when has the quick fix worked, especially for this team?
Come on. We've seen this before. You can only sit there saying "maybe this time" for so long.
The Jets will wind up with Rodgers but adding Him makes them a 10 win team not a Super Bowl Team. Too many holes for that.
The Jets might make playoffs(10 wins is no guarantee) and they may "catch fire" or "go on a run" like most are hoping but we all know what happens when you take shortcuts. You are eventually exposed.
 

NewMFS62

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BTW, I'd feel a lot better if Tiki Barber kept the f**k out of this.
He played for that OTHER NY team and of course he loves any agony Jets fans are going through.
STFU, Tiki.
Later
 

jetgreen13

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I'm probably the only one who cares, but I would rather see anyone (well other than you know who) play QB this year than see this guy wear Namath's number. I think that it is going to be a bit painful to see.
hasn't namath already offered #12 to rodgers once he gets here??

but since joe is cool with it so am i.. if rodgers even takes him up on the offer..
 
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