Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · Apr 6The most non-combative quotes possible from Wilkerson's agent, still think #Jets get deal done by middle of June
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · Apr 6The most non-combative quotes possible from Wilkerson's agent, still think #Jets get deal done by middle of June
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · Apr 6Key date to watch with Wilkerson is 6/9, which is when first mandatory team activity is. Think #Jets target new deal in weeks after Draft.
Mo's skipping the voluntary OTA's as well.
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/05/muhammad_wilkerson_to_skip_jets_otas_per_report.html
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/05/muhammad_wilkerson_to_skip_jets_otas_per_report.html
Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch · 16m16 minutes agoWoody says the Jets are "continuing to have dialogue" with Mo Wilkerson but a deal will only get done if "it makes sense for both sides."
Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch · 15m15 minutes agoWoody did not sound overly optimistic or enthusiastic at all. about a deal getting done with Mo Wilkerson. Just my impression.
Corey Griffin @CoreyGriffinNBC · 14m14 minutes agoLRT - Woody and #Jets brass continue to send the same message to Wilkerson's camp -- Come down on your price or no deal.
Ray Lucas thinks Mo should get a deal around 10-11 million per. If Mo is looking for a Watt type of deal he may not be playing at all this season if he decides to hold out.. Plus he coming off a so-so year where he played 13 games because of turf toe and to tell the truth I really didn't miss him.. I think he's a very good player but he's not a All Pro that the team needs desperately to be successful IMO..
G
grogan14
Guest
G
grogan14
Guest
I have said before I think the ball is in Wilkersons' court I think Maccagnan has close to his best offer on the table which I believe is close to fair value. I think the Wilkerson camp is holding out for unrealistic money. I still will not be too worried until Wilkerson misses something that is mandatory.
Trade him to Denver for Shane Ray.
Denver is a NOW TEAM and the window is closing on Payton, so they are much better off filling a huge need on their D-line than grooming Demarcus Ware's eventual replacement, and with Von Miller on the other side there's really nowhere for Ray to play this year. Ray is a luxury for Denver, Wilkerson is a necessity.
Grooming Ray would make more sense if the clock wasn't ticking on Payton, and right now Mo Wilkerson would be their best starting defensive lineman by a lot. Meantime we get a TOP 10 talent at edge rusher, where we need more help, and Mo is expendable after drafting Leonard Williams, and Coples can play DE too when we switch to a four man front.
BASE 3-4
DE Leonard Williams
NT Snacks
DE Sheldon Richardson
==
OLB Shane Ray
ILB David Harris
ILB Demario Davis
OLB Quinton Coples
==
CB Darrelle Revis
SS Calvin Pryor
FS Marcus Gilchrist
CB Antonio Cromartie
NICKELS & DIMES
Dee Milliner
Buster Skrine
Dexter McDougle
Marcus Williams
Now we can groom Mauldin behind Coples and not feel pressured to rush his development, in the meantime he can get in some sub packages as a situational pass rusher if he shows that he can be effective in that role.
Denver is a NOW TEAM and the window is closing on Payton, so they are much better off filling a huge need on their D-line than grooming Demarcus Ware's eventual replacement, and with Von Miller on the other side there's really nowhere for Ray to play this year. Ray is a luxury for Denver, Wilkerson is a necessity.
Grooming Ray would make more sense if the clock wasn't ticking on Payton, and right now Mo Wilkerson would be their best starting defensive lineman by a lot. Meantime we get a TOP 10 talent at edge rusher, where we need more help, and Mo is expendable after drafting Leonard Williams, and Coples can play DE too when we switch to a four man front.
BASE 3-4
DE Leonard Williams
NT Snacks
DE Sheldon Richardson
==
OLB Shane Ray
ILB David Harris
ILB Demario Davis
OLB Quinton Coples
==
CB Darrelle Revis
SS Calvin Pryor
FS Marcus Gilchrist
CB Antonio Cromartie
NICKELS & DIMES
Dee Milliner
Buster Skrine
Dexter McDougle
Marcus Williams
Now we can groom Mauldin behind Coples and not feel pressured to rush his development, in the meantime he can get in some sub packages as a situational pass rusher if he shows that he can be effective in that role.
Another possibility is Kansas City.
They just re-signed Tamba Hali for 18 million and Justin Houston is a TOP 10 player in the sport, so they have no place to play for last years first round pick (whom I was particularly high on), 3-4 RUSH OLB Dee Ford.
They also need to upgrade at 3-4 DE ... desperately ... even more than Denver.
I'm sure they would swap Ford for Wilkerson in a heartbeat, and probably throw us a 2nd RD Pick on top of it.
They just re-signed Tamba Hali for 18 million and Justin Houston is a TOP 10 player in the sport, so they have no place to play for last years first round pick (whom I was particularly high on), 3-4 RUSH OLB Dee Ford.
They also need to upgrade at 3-4 DE ... desperately ... even more than Denver.
I'm sure they would swap Ford for Wilkerson in a heartbeat, and probably throw us a 2nd RD Pick on top of it.
Mine too, Nick, I'd rather keep him and rotate a super unit on the D-line, but if he's gonna demand JJ Watt money (absurd), then be a douche about it and holdout, ala vintage Revis, when we have a new HC who is trying to get guys implemented into his system, then I say MOVE HIS ASS if we can get a young stud edge rusher in return.
I agree 100%. Mo is a beast and posing him isn't the preferred method but if he going to cause an issue, move him ad quickly as possible before his trade value drops. Get that LB that we missed out on in the draft. Not saying Williams wasn't the right pick but we can possibly get that young LB also now by trading Mo.
If feel fleeced. A top 3 3-4 DE for Ford and a mid 2nd rd pick, ie a guy drafted at the end of rd 1 and a mid to late rd 2? I'd rather have the 1 and 2 and they can keep Ford. If ford was where they needed him to be, Hali would be on another team right now.
I love how when we drafted Williams the board was "we need more talent regardless of position."
The same posters are okay with letting our most talented player, who happens to be in his mid 20s, walk out the door for some mid to late 1 and 2 talent.
The irony and contradictions are disgusting. The biggest concern with drafting Williams was our ability to keep our young nucleus together on d. On one thread that isn't a concern and on another, it's okay to blow up our young nucleus because we draft an unknown commodity at 6. SMH, Jets nation.
The same posters are okay with letting our most talented player, who happens to be in his mid 20s, walk out the door for some mid to late 1 and 2 talent.
The irony and contradictions are disgusting. The biggest concern with drafting Williams was our ability to keep our young nucleus together on d. On one thread that isn't a concern and on another, it's okay to blow up our young nucleus because we draft an unknown commodity at 6. SMH, Jets nation.
Agreed, I hope he stays. He will not get Watt money from us, but 10-12 million seems pretty fair.
People aren't trading a young starting 10-15 sack a year OLB in May and June. That shipped has sailed. If you move Mo, it will be for future picks and leave the roster with less talent in 2015.
If we trade Mo, Williams better be a stud, because if he isn't and we trade Mo, he may be on a similar path to Idzik. mac better handle this situation right. Losing our best player and drafting his replacement didn't work out too well for Idzik...Revis for Milliner. careful history doesn't repeat itself.
Some of us don't think Mo is the most talented personally I think Sheldon is and then there is Revis.. I would like to keep Mo but not if he's not happy unless he gets a JJ Watt deal.. When the Jets traded Abe he was a All Pro so was Revis Mo is still waiting to make a Pro Bowl after 4 years..