Barr Staying Put with Vikings

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I'd honestly consider blacklisting the Vikings the way the Colts have McDaniels and the Pats after their stunt. The Vikings keep pulling this.

Or, better yet, I'd come in and make offers above value to any guys they have made any deals with, except Barr. If not this year, next year. If they don't respect when other teams have a deal in place with a player, why should other teams respect their deals?
 

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I'd honestly consider blacklisting the Vikings the way the Colts have McDaniels and the Pats after their stunt. The Vikings keep pulling this.

Or, better yet, I'd come in and make offers above value to any guys they have made any deals with, except Barr. If not this year, next year. If they don't respect when other teams have a deal in place with a player, why should other teams respect their deals?
There are no words to describe how much this effected us. This was a free agency kill-shot and it will effect the draft as well.
 

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Green Jets & Ham;n174407 said:
There are no words to describe how much this effected us. This was a free agency kill-shot and it will effect the draft as well.

The question is, how will it affect the draft?

Last year, the Jets offered more money to Cousins. He chose to take less to go to the Vikes, and he and his contract are an albatross around that franchise while the Jets stayed the course and drafted Sam Darnold.

What's to say this move doesn't cause the Jets to stay with the third pick and end up with either Bosa or Allen, who might outpace Barr's production for far less money on their rookie deal? Barr might have kept the Jets from going edge rusher in an edge rusher heavy draft.

I expressed this concern earlier that with Mosley and Barr, I was worried the Jets were allocating too many resources to LB while other positions needed attention. I'm still disappointed in not getting either Morse or Paradis, as it reminds me of the guys the Jets passed on at center last year. That said, Barr might have done this franchise nearly as big a favor as Kirk Cousins did.
 

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I’m old enough to remember when a mans word was his bond.

This is just another indication that western civilization is on life support.

Man gives you his word and it isn’t worth two cents.
 

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The question is, how will it affect the draft?

Last year, the Jets offered more money to Cousins. He chose to take less to go to the Vikes, and he and his contract are an albatross around that franchise while the Jets stayed the course and drafted Sam Darnold.

What's to say this move doesn't cause the Jets to stay with the third pick and end up with either Bosa or Allen, who might outpace Barr's production for far less money on their rookie deal? Barr might have kept the Jets from going edge rusher in an edge rusher heavy draft.

I expressed this concern earlier that with Mosley and Barr, I was worried the Jets were allocating too many resources to LB while other positions needed attention. I'm still disappointed in not getting either Morse or Paradis, as it reminds me of the guys the Jets passed on at center last year. That said, Barr might have done this franchise nearly as big a favor as Kirk Cousins did.
I hope you're right, but right now I'm just despondent. I feel defeated. I came home from the doctor hoping to see that we signed Bell and Paradis too, but instead I read that Barr pulled the rug out from under us. I thought drafting a potential FQB would change things and make the Jets more attractive to free agents, so s--t like this wouldn't happen anymore. So much for that. Thank God I'm a Yankees fan too. At least they win championships, give their fans a sense of pride, and they're an attractive destination for 98% of free agents worldwide. Its a worldwide brand and it speaks of excellence. Thank God they let me know what that feels like, because the Jets are the polar opposite.
 

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I hope you're right, but right now I'm just despondent. I feel defeated. I came home from the doctor hoping to see that we signed Bell and Paradis too, but instead I read that Barr pulled the rug out from under us. I thought drafting a potential FQB would change things and make the Jets more attractive to free agents, so s--t like this wouldn't happen anymore. So much for that. Thank God I'm a Yankees fan too. At least they win championships, give their fans a sense of pride, and they're an attractive destination for 98% of free agents worldwide. Its a worldwide brand and it speaks of excellence. Thank God they let me know what that feels like, because the Jets are the polar opposite.

It's painful that it happens to us a lot (though not exclusively - see Colts' HC search last year). That said, it says a lot about the character of a person if they agree to a deal and then so quickly back out of it before it becomes official. If your word or a handshake isn't good enough, I don't want you on my team.
 

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I don't blame Mac for this. All you can do is offer a contract to someone and if they have shitty character and can't keep their word then I don't want that type of player anyway.

That type of player was also Reggie White (an ordained minister) who held a press conference in NY to say he would sign with the Jets, then hopped on a plane and signed with Green Bay the next day. Lying turds, both of them.
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Green Jets & Ham;n174412 said:
I hope you're right, but right now I'm just despondent. I feel defeated. I came home from the doctor hoping to see that we signed Bell and Paradis too, but instead I read that Barr pulled the rug out from under us. I thought drafting a potential FQB would change things and make the Jets more attractive to free agents, so s--t like this wouldn't happen anymore. So much for that. Thank God I'm a Yankees fan too. At least they win championships, give their fans a sense of pride, and they're an attractive destination for 98% of free agents worldwide. Its a worldwide brand and it speaks of excellence. Thank God they let me know what that feels like, because the Jets are the polar opposite.

Arnold can't change things until we start winning and it's hard to start winning if we can't get good players to come here. This is the problem. How do you get around it? Stink for many years and collect high draft picks. It may finally be working for the browns
 

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Barr turned us into laughing stocks today ... a punchline.

Reminds me of a quote from Leon Hess that had me LMAO

It was during the Rich Kotite era.

Mr. Hess had a tradition back then, he would always address the team himself for Thanksgiving and give them a pep talk.

But what can you say to a team that was well on its way to a 1-15 season?

Mr. Hess found the perfect words ...

"Now lets go out there this week and show them we're not a bunch of horses asses."

Ah, the good old days. :global (48):
 

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Like who ?

Getting down to,the scrap heap .
Thats the worst part.

If Barr had just rejected our offer we could have pivoted to other top tier free agents.

Now we're stuck with all this cap space, all that money we had set aside for Barr, and no free agents left worth spending it on.

Okay, Le'Veon Bell is still in play, but thats about it, I don't like throwing big money and years at 30+ year old FA's like Justin Houston.

We had the right idea going after guys in their mid 20's, in their primes, top shelf FA's too, but Barr ruined it for us.

I wish we had gone after Trent Brown or Trey Flowers instead.
 
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Green Jets & Ham;n174440 said:
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"Now lets go out there this week and show them we're not a bunch of horses asses."

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Oh how Mr Hess's words ring true still today from beyond the grave !!:

Dont forget " You don't want to be the Cleveland Browns " !!!

blahahahahahaha

i like my new one

" I ain't going to the fuckin Jets"

What an organization

Bell is not coming here unless het get $100 Mil
 

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Green Jets & Ham;n174445 said:
Thats the worst part.

If Barr had just rejected our offer we could have pivoted to other top tier free agents.

Now we're stuck with all this cap space, all that money we had set aside for Barr, and no free agents left worth spending it on.

Okay, Le'Veon Bell is still in play, but thats about it, I don't like throwing big money and years at 30+ year old FA's like Justin Houston.

We had the right idea going after guys in their mid 20's, in their primes, top shelf FA's too, but Barr ruined it for us.

I wish we had gone after Trent Brown or Trey Flowers instead.

But its ok guys. We re-signed Harrison.
 

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NY isn’t as appealing as it used to be.
I just got my property tax bill and came to the realization that I have to sell this house and move to another state. Honestly, NO JOKE, what good is it that I paid off my mortgage when Andrew Cuomo and Bill De Blasio are financially sodomizing me for a house I already paid for?
 

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HAHAHA!!! How many times can Mike Mac make himself and the Jets Org. look like a bunch of inept FOOLS? This is the 3rd time a Player used the Jets offer to stay or go to another team! Thats now 2 Vikes Players and Dumb Suh. How much longer with the Johnsons put up with his BAD over paid signings and getting slapped in the face with his offers and then Horrible, awful Drafts that are not a first round top 6th pick? Hey Dumb GM of Jets, make an offer on the phone and Fax the sign sheet to the agent /Player and phone vid signing and tell them to sign it because when you hang up the offer goes! Hey Johnsons, are you really letting Mikey spend a 100 Mil. again and Draft? Could put us in cap hell and bad Rookies for another 4 years.

It wasn't Macc's fault that Barr re-upped with Minn. Macc gave Barr a good contract. He just got homesick for Minn.
 

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Green Jets & Ham;n174451 said:
I just got my property tax bill and came to the realization that I have to sell this house and move to another state. Honestly, NO JOKE, what good is it that I paid off my mortgage when Andrew Cuomo and Bill De Blasio are financially sodomizing me for a house I already paid for?

I dk your income situation but the new tax law and only allowing us to deduct $10,000 for state and local taxes is what’s hurting us. Having said that, NY is heavily taxed and many residents have moved elsewhere.
 

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You couldn't pay me to live in NYC. My brother lives there and has for 35 years. I've visited him numerous times and wasted lots of money going to see the Jets play. I always hated the city. Its gross and the people seem miserable.
 

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You couldn't pay me to live in NYC. My brother lives there and has for 35 years. I've visited him numerous times and wasted lots of money going to see the Jets play. I always hated the city. Its gross and the people seem miserable.
I was born and raised in NYC (Manhattan), but left to a more suburban part of NY when I was a kid.
 
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