Bryce Petty might be the first player in NFL history ...

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... who got himself into the coaches doghouse by playing too well and outperforming the competition.

If you are paying close attention, something really weird happened this week, unprecedented in terms of anything I have ever seen. The week started when Bryce put on a show verses Washington in the second half of that preseason game, which was even better than the numbers suggested because Sudfled coughed up another scoring drive inside the 10, following another big play in the passing game by Petty, otherwise we're probably talking about three TD drives and 24 Points overall for Petty in the second half, NOT PERFECT, but about as good a performance as anyone could have hoped for or anticipated, and certainly much better than anything Geno has shown us in the preseason ... and prior to that game it was documented all last week that Petty was really coming on in training camp and outperforming Geno there too.

So what was Petty's reward for a terrific week of practice and an equally terrific performance verses Washington?

The very next practice, following an off day, he received a grand total of four reps.

You read that right, that was not a typo ... four reps ... while Geno received the lions share of non Fitz reps.

AND NOW, Bowles has said Petty might not even play at all vs the Giants, cause he wants to get Geno more work.

AND SO, Bryce Petty, following his best sustained run since being drafted, has suddenly morphed into Christian Hackenberg, a guy who can't even get reps on the practice field and is unlikely to even get into the upcoming game.

Honestly, its as if Bowles was aware of the buzz Petty had created around him, how the fans were being convinced he has earned that backup QB spot, and he wanted to choke that growing sentiment in its cradle before it had a chance to metastasize. Thats the only logical explanation for this. Petty is literally the first player in NFL history to get himself into the Head Coaches doghouse by playing too well and making his competition look bad.
 
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Old#15

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I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it, because #1 the Giant game is more about getting the 1st team rolling. We have to be ready for the season, and I believe the #2 situation has been decided. Geno plays like he has in the previous 2 games, he will be released provided that Petty continues to show progress. Hack isn't being exposed to waivers and Petty is a better fit mentally for this team, and as a backup. We have a very good cast of veterans at the skill positions who can help a young QB in the event of an injury to Fitz, and I think that is how our brain-trust views this.
 

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I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it, because #1 the Giant game is more about getting the 1st team rolling. We have to be ready for the season, and I believe the #2 situation has been decided. Geno plays like he has in the previous 2 games, he will be released provided that Petty continues to show progress. Hack isn't being exposed to waivers and Petty is a better fit mentally for this team, and as a backup. We have a very good cast of veterans at the skill positions who can help a young QB in the event of an injury to Fitz, and I think that is how our brain-trust views this.


They may already be negotiating a trade but the suitor wants to see more of Geno perform... just a guess
 
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... who got himself into the coaches doghouse by playing too well and outperforming the competition.

If you are paying close attention, something really weird happened this week, unprecedented in terms of anything I have ever seen. The week started when Bryce put on a show verses Washington in the second half of that preseason game, which was even better than the numbers suggested because Sudfled coughed up another scoring drive inside the 10, following another big play in the passing game by Petty, otherwise we're probably talking about three TD drives and 24 Points overall for Petty in the second half, NOT PERFECT, but about as good a performance as anyone could have hoped for or anticipated, and certainly much better than anything Geno has shown us in the preseason ... and prior to that game it was documented all last week that Petty was really coming on in training camp and outperforming Geno there too.

So what was Petty's reward for a terrific week of practice and an equally terrific performance verses Washington?

The very next practice, following an off day, he received a grand total of four reps.

You read that right, that was not a typo ... four reps ... while Geno received the lions share of non Fitz reps.

AND NOW, Bowles has said Petty might not even play at all vs the Giants, cause he wants to get Geno more work.

AND SO, Bryce Petty, following his best sustained run since being drafted, has suddenly morphed into Christian Hackenberg, a guy who can't even get reps on the practice field and is unlikely to even get into the upcoming game.

Honestly, its as if Bowles was aware of the buzz Petty had created around him, how the fans were being convinced he has earned that backup QB spot, and he wanted to choke that growing sentiment in its cradle before it had a chance to metastasize. Thats the only logical explanation for this. Petty is literally the first player in NFL history to get himself into the Head Coaches doghouse by playing too well and making his competition look bad.

Ham I have to agree. I'm really baffled by this.

The only thing that makes sense is that the Jets are going to try to showcase smith for a trade. Don't see anyone giving up anything for smith.

Other then that it makes no sense at all. Not only did Petty have a good game against Washington, he had 8 straight good practices.

Some how I'm getting the feeling that Bowles is going to try to do something tricky to avoid carrying 4 QB's. I hope he isn't going to out smart himself and lose his best long term commodity here in Petty
 

hobson54

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lol...he's not in the doghouse

petty leads the jets QBs by far in pre-season snaps (60 for petty, vs 36 for smith and 22 for fitz)

clearly they need to give fitz the first half and probably more on saturday. given geno is probably on his last leg, it makes sense to put him in next, perhaps to bolster any trade appeal (doubtful imo), or to make the final decision whether they carry 3 or 4 QBs during the year.

petty will get plenty of PT vs the eagles

doghouse....lol
 

NYJETSDAN16

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lol...he's not in the doghouse

petty leads the jets QBs by far in pre-season snaps (60 for petty, vs 36 for smith and 22 for fitz)

clearly they need to give fitz the first half and probably more on saturday. given geno is probably on his last leg, it makes sense to put him in next, perhaps to bolster any trade appeal (doubtful imo), or to make the final decision whether they carry 3 or 4 QBs during the year.

petty will get plenty of PT vs the eagles

doghouse....lol

Spot on 54... 100%
 

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Spot on 54... 100%
If he's spot on 100%, then why does Bowles continue to insist Geno is #2, as if he's John Unitas and can't be challenged for the position? What has Geno done to earn that much benefit of the doubt, that he can't be challenged in practice by a younger player with upside, a player we drafted, unlike Geno who was drafted by the prior regime and is on the last year of his contract? Bowles is acting like Geno is an established winner whose credentials are rock solid.
 
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Are the Jets showcasing Geno Smith for a trade?
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As reports of Geno Smith's demise with the New York Jets swirl after a horrendous performance in Week 2 of the preseason, it may seem curious that head coach Todd Bowles kept him second on the depth chart this week.

But with a Week 3 matchup with the New York Giants looming, and Smith slated to play significant snaps, it's becoming more likely that the Jets could be showcasing their former second-round pick as trade bait.

The Jets currently have four quarterbacks on the roster. Two of them, Ryan Fitzpatrick and 2016 second-rounder Christian Hackenberg, will definitely be there when Week 1 begins, while Smith and Bryce Petty are competing to hold a clipboard.

Before the Fitzpatrick holdout ended, it was hard to envision the Jets moving on from Smith - he'd taken control of the starting job throughout OTAs and seemed to have the coaching staff's trust heading into his fourth season.

But as soon the lights came on, Smith reverted to a form many Jets fans are familiar with: the talented yet turnover-prone quarterback who can't seem to get out of his own way.


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So what are the Jets to do?

They seem to have three plausible options:

Trade or release Smith
Trade or release Petty
Carry four quarterbacks

The wild card here is Petty. The 2015 fourth-rounder is under team control through 2019, so he's the lower-risk option to groom in conjunction with Hackenberg. Smith becomes a free agent after the season and should be looking to get out of New York if he's not tabbed as the franchise quarterback.

If Petty's performing close to or above Smith's level, it's a clear choice for a franchise content to roll with Fitzpatrick this season.


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The biggest clue pointing to a Geno showcase over the next two weeks may be the quick change in Bowles' tune: He went from ambivalence to clear affirmation about Smith's standing on the depth chart in a matter of days. That change of course suggests the front office might have intervened in a situation that could be massaged to the franchise's benefit.

If the Jets let Smith showcase what he can do for another franchise on Saturday, it could benefit both sides. However, if Smith is truly the team's second-best quarterback and New York loses Fitzpatrick to injury, the Jets could discover they gambled away the 2016 season.
 

hobson54

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If he's spot on 100%, then why does Bowles continue to insist Geno is #2, as if he's John Unitas and can't be challenged for the position? What has Geno done to earn that much benefit of the doubt, that he can't be challenged in practice by a younger player with upside, a player we drafted, unlike Geno who was drafted by the prior regime and is on the last year of his contract? Bowles is acting like Geno is an established winner whose credentials are rock solid.

because if bowles said geno was a piece of dug who we will be cutting in a week, then any potential trade value disappears.

now it may be a long-shot to trade him. but i think we should just give it a little time and see if the picture clears up in a week. this very well could be geno's last stand. maybe the coaches want to give him a last shot to see if he's worth keeping? maybe they want to boost any possible trade value?
 

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because if bowles said geno was a piece of dug who we will be cutting in a week, then any potential trade value disappears.

now it may be a long-shot to trade him. but i think we should just give it a little time and see if the picture clears up in a week. this very well could be geno's last stand. maybe the coaches want to give him a last shot to see if he's worth keeping? maybe they want to boost any possible trade value?
Its possible thats what this "Geno is #2" charade is all about, and I hope you're right, I hope thats it.

We'll know pretty soon.
 

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It has to be for a trade... Surely???

No matter what I can't see us cutting Petty...

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I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it, because #1 the Giant game is more about getting the 1st team rolling. We have to be ready for the season, and I believe the #2 situation has been decided. Geno plays like he has in the previous 2 games, he will be released provided that Petty continues to show progress. Hack isn't being exposed to waivers and Petty is a better fit mentally for this team, and as a backup. We have a very good cast of veterans at the skill positions who can help a young QB in the event of an injury to Fitz, and I think that is how our brain-trust views this.

Well said..... I agree 100%
 

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because if bowles said geno was a piece of dug who we will be cutting in a week, then any potential trade value disappears.

now it may be a long-shot to trade him. but i think we should just give it a little time and see if the picture clears up in a week. this very well could be geno's last stand. maybe the coaches want to give him a last shot to see if he's worth keeping? maybe they want to boost any possible trade value?
hell, why not name smith the week one starter to try to get a GM to bite??

why not?? because like the song says, nothing from nothing leaves nothing.....
 

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If he's spot on 100%, then why does Bowles continue to insist Geno is #2, as if he's John Unitas and can't be challenged for the position? What has Geno done to earn that much benefit of the doubt, that he can't be challenged in practice by a younger player with upside, a player we drafted, unlike Geno who was drafted by the prior regime and is on the last year of his contract? Bowles is acting like Geno is an established winner whose credentials are rock solid.

Let it play out Ham. Let Geno continue to dig his own grave Saturday night. IMHO, they know Petty is progressing well and has developed rather quickley year two. Management wants to atleast get something for Geno before ultimatly releasing him. Just look at what happend today with Barkevious Mingo. A bust who somehow got the Browns a 5th round pick.

Geno's days are numbered to say the least, i wouldn't get too bent out of shapre because he's still the current back-up in the pre-season, that will change soon due to Petty's play.
 

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I think the scenario where they are showcasing Smith makes a lot of sense. the problem is Smith himself. If he plays as poorly as he did last week well who the hell will want him?
 

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I think the scenario where they are showcasing Smith makes a lot of sense. the problem is Smith himself. If he plays as poorly as he did last week well who the hell will want him?

Then he will be cut.
 

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Then he will be cut.
LOLz as you might imagine, i agree with you..

i'm worried bowles doesn't though..

he seems to be stuck on the idea of experience over youth..

thing is, both will get you fired if you keep guessing wrong enough..
 
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I think the scenario where they are showcasing Smith makes a lot of sense. the problem is Smith himself. If he plays as poorly as he did last week well who the hell will want him?

smith is capable of playing well every so often. This game doesn't count so I fully expect him to play well just to punish Jets fans by staying on the team for his final year.
 

hobson54

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while i'm no fan of smith and probably will cheer the day he is released or traded, the fact remains that petty lighting up a pre-season game against guys who likely won't make an nfl roster isn't enough to just hand him the backup position. let's keep in mind all the pre-season QB stars the jets have had who never mounted to anything in the league.

again, my preference is to carry 3 QBs and have petty as the backup. but i'm not a coach/GM with a job to do, nor do i have access to every practice and team meeting. so there very well could be a reason why a pro coach would rather have a more experienced backup then a guy who lit up the stat sheet in the 2nd pre-season game
 
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