Can we finally play Petty now to see what he has for the rest of the season!!!

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ucrenegade

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lolz...................we can splurge and ask for the pretzel m&m's :woot:
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Fitzpatrick wasn't great today, but he wasn't the biggest reason we lost. Anyone who watched that game could see how badly they played as a team.

I'm on the side of waiting with Petty. Don't throw him in now. Patience is needed with a kid like him. He's got all the physical ability to play the position, but I'm very skeptical that he's ready for the NFL game right now. Not after the system he played at Baylor.

I'm very optimistic about Petty, though.
 

jets82

Curious George
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Oh, I'm fine agreeing to disagree. And I respect your opinion, even if I do not share it.

That said, unless Petty is truly 100% ready, you really won't find out about him by putting him out there. What you may find is that he is not ready yet, and you tossed him into the deep end without him knowing how to swim yet. Could that keep him from ever learning to swim? Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think it's worth the risk.

I want to see Petty out there when he is truly ready, 100% ready, and we can get an honest evaluation. I don't know if that is the case right now.

And truthfully, I am not about to sacrifice the slow, deliberate development of this kid all for the sake of a possible wild card spot and one extra weekend of football in January.
A very reasonable analogy and thought process of opinion. Can't argue it at all and I think we both can agree on this, the coaches know if he's 100% or as close to it as possible to being ready to play him. So if they don't, either he's not ready or their stupid as shit because we ain't going no place with this team.
 
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flgreen

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Fitzpatrick wasn't great today, but he wasn't the biggest reason we lost. Anyone who watched that game could see how badly they played as a team.

I'm on the side of waiting with Petty. Don't throw him in now. Patience is needed with a kid like him. He's got all the physical ability to play the position, but I'm very skeptical that he's ready for the NFL game right now. Not after the system he played at Baylor.

I'm very optimistic about Petty, though.

Agree

BTW, what do you think is going to happen with your name sake? He got his butt handed to him to day. Granted it was JJ, but still, Brick is scheduled to make $14,000,000 next year.
 

isired

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no until we fix this offensive line this off season then give him the chance to win the job. Petty's one problem in college was happy feet, yes he had great accuracy and touch on his throws but got flustered with broken assignments up front...

no Mangold, Breno sucking ass and Winters not much of a pass blocker will have Petty throwing into double and triple coverage trying to force the issue like Fitzpatrick has been doing all season...

why not play gino instead. we think we know what he can do but lets find out for sure. if he get killed by the bad play of the OL we are not losing anything as he will probably be gone next year anyway. give petty the rest of the year to learn from fritz as they sit on the watching gino run for his life.

Because there is virtually nothing to gain, other than satisfying the curiosity of the fan base and the armchair GMs.

If the Packers had made a decision by this point on Aaron Rodgers, he never would have gotten the starting job. He sat for three years.

Seriously, I don't understand the mindset of "why not?" The guy may or may not be a franchise QB, so why not toss him out there now? Well, I ask "why?" Why toss him out there now? What is really to gain?


QFT x3
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Agree

BTW, what do you think is going to happen with your name sake? He got his butt handed to him to day. Granted it was JJ, but still, Brick is scheduled to make $14,000,000 next year.

To be honest, I saw about 70% of the game today because I had a minor family emergency. So I cannot give an honest assessment of his play today. But yes, Brick isn't the same player he was from rookie year to 2012. He's getting older and, naturally, he's not going to hold up as well against elite players like Watt. If we have a better option than him, someone cheaper, who can handle the blindside, then by all means let's do it.

I just don't know who that alternative is. But if Brick wants to stay on another year or two, he's gonna have to take less.
 

jets82

Curious George
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Let me make sure I clear this up so that everybody understands. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because he's going to save this season. I'm not saying the Jets should play Petty because Fitz has lost us this season and his play should have him benched. I'm also not saying they should play Petty just for the sake of doing it and watch him get crushed. What I am saying is if the Jets believe Petty is at least 75% ready then he can do no worse then what Fitz or Geno can do, so why not play him. I'm also saying that Petty maybe that spark that the Jets need, that new fresh blood that can rejuvenate them. I'm also saying that spark or not, the Jets are not going to make the playoffs by the way they look with any QB we have on our roster anyway. So give the kid some reps and let's see what he can do before the year ends and before we all start jumping on the bandwagon of drafting another QB.
 
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ucrenegade

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To be honest, I saw about 70% of the game today because I had a minor family emergency. So I cannot give an honest assessment of his play today. But yes, Brick isn't the same player he was from rookie year to 2012. He's getting older and, naturally, he's not going to hold up as well against elite players like Watt. If we have a better option than him, someone cheaper, who can handle the blindside, then by all means let's do it.

I just don't know who that alternative is. But if Brick wants to stay on another year or two, he's gonna have to take less.

he will def need to restructure if he wants to help out the team that is for sure.
 

usapaw

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So let me get this straight; you want vanilla football for another season with a 10% chance we will stumble into the playoffs and lose the first game. No thanks, I'll take a year off from football if Fitz is the starter next year. Can't watch another year of completions for minus 3 on 3rd and one.
It was a nice gamble by Mac to put this mix of FA and existing vets out there but it isn't working and we are right back where we started except for ruining the nice cap cushion we had.
Fitz lost this game in the end; back to back picks. End of story.
 

jets82

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So let me get this straight; you want vanilla football for another season with a 10% chance we will stumble into the playoffs and lose the first game. No thanks, I'll take a year off from football if Fitz is the starter next year. Can't watch another year of completions for minus 3 on 3rd and one.
It was a nice gamble by Mac to put this mix of FA and existing vets out there but it isn't working and we are right back where we started except for ruining the nice cap cushion we had.
Fitz lost this game in the end; back to back picks. End of story.
So it sounds like your agreeing with me to a certain extent and I'm not even putting this lose entirely on Fitz. Fitz did have a bad game but the defense stunk. I mean stop somebody, damn! They let a back up QB beat them and make them look like shit and he couldn't even beat out Fitz when he was there. I put this loss on the D and coaching mostly but Fitz does play his part in it. Defense has looked slow and like shit over the past few weeks really.
 

gastineau

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Playing sports is 90% mental & confidence of being able to play at next level. Petty needs to sit until he is ready, just like Rogers did sitting behind Farve & learning. We really have a chance with Petty & I dont want his confidence shot right off the bat with him not being ready. I was hoping they might give Petty 1 game this season to see where he is at & how he handles the NFL speed & the quick decisions he will have to make reading Defenses. One thing for sure is Jets needs to get rid of Geno. Geno knows nothing & you dont want Geno giving any advice to Petty.
 

isired

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I like Petty, I liked the pick where we got him and he's shown some good in preseason. But keep in mind that he was not the prospect Gene was coming out, and it's quite possible that if Geno was spoonfed to us in a few preseason games and nothing more, we might be feeling better about him than we are about Petty at this point.

I'd rather err on the side of caution this year. And I'm definitely not going all in - I'd draft a QB next year for sure.

I also think, if they haven't made up their mind about Geno yet, he's the one that needs to get on the field. Petty isn't going anywhere.

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flgreen

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I like Petty, I liked the pick where we got him and he's shown some good in preseason. But keep in mind that he was not the prospect Gene was coming out, and it's quite possible that if Geno was spoonfed to us in a few preseason games and nothing more, we might be feeling better about him than we are about Petty at this point.

I'd rather err on the side of caution this year. And I'm definitely not going all in - I'd draft a QB next year for sure.

I also think, if they haven't made up their mind about Geno yet, he's the one that needs to get on the field. Petty isn't going anywhere.

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Agree, let petty sit this year. In smith's case I don't think he had the emotional make up to be a starter in the NFL
 
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ucrenegade

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I like Petty, I liked the pick where we got him and he's shown some good in preseason. But keep in mind that he was not the prospect Gene was coming out, and it's quite possible that if Geno was spoonfed to us in a few preseason games and nothing more, we might be feeling better about him than we are about Petty at this point.

I'd rather err on the side of caution this year. And I'm definitely not going all in - I'd draft a QB next year for sure.

I also think, if they haven't made up their mind about Geno yet, he's the one that needs to get on the field. Petty isn't going anywhere.

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i never thought that highly of geno even in college
 

the Claw

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I hate to disagree with the sentiment of this thread, but for the 1st time this year I do believe a QB change is warranted, but I believe Geno should get the start.

At 5-5, the Jets are still alive for a WC berth. I think the reason we are having so much trouble running the ball is that the opposing team has disregarded our down field vertical game. I would start Geno to see if he can jump start this team, ignite our offense and determine if it's worth bringing him back next season.

I agree. I hate the idea of watching Smith QB this team, not for anything, him on the field gets us in 10-15th pick in the draft. It also gets Fitz on the sideline teaching our young, raw, impressionable, but talented rookie. Seems like a win-win.

Then we cut Geno in the off season. Please.
 
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flgreen

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i never thought that highly of geno even in college


Me either.

I became intrigued with him about half way through his senior season. Smith, Austin, and Bailey were tearing up the NCAA. People were saying he was going to perhaps be the first pick in the draft. The Jets needed a QB so I started watching West Virginia. Think they lost 6 of their last 8 games.

I wasn't all that impressed. Then came the Pin Stripe Bowl. Think they lost 38-14 in horrible weather. The weather wasn't half as horrible as smith's play. if you look at the stats, they don't look to horrible, Nassib's stats weren't great either, but in my mind I had no doubt that smith was going to be a horrible NFL QB. You had to watch the game to see how bad he actually was. Fist time I think I saw him do his patterned step out of the back of the end zone for a safety.

Didn't want any part of him after that. Seems like most of the league felt the same way
 
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gastineau

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Geno's college passing yards of 4000 was over half YAK yds. If you look closer at Geno's College stats you will see that he was most accurate from 0-10 yds passes & his accuracy dropped the farther he passed at 10-20 & 20-30. Genos YAK yds should have been a red flag why he dropped to 2nd round along with all from shot gun.
 

jetgreen13

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One was anointed and the other was handed the job. And both played day one. Petty has sat for 10 weeks to learn. One more loss and the season is over so why not.
if & when we are eliminated from the playoffs i have no problem with the jets taking a look at petty against live bullets.. frankly i think it makes quite a bit of sense.. why waste the opportunity to see what the kid has learned so far?? maybe we find out enough about petty that the jets feel comfortable not having draft a QB in the 1st round next season??

that said, i don't think it's fair to the kid or his teammates to ask him to save the season if you don't think he's ready to do that..
 
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