Kevin....... Macc's been here for just under 6 months......give him a chance...... he's had some things to do you know.
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Kevin....... Macc's been here for just under 6 months......give him a chance...... he's had some things to do you know.
I am betting on him having a rebound year. It just stands to reason. Somebody posted a great article about #2 WR's in line for a great year, because they are being paired with a #1 ; i.e., Decker as our #2 being paired with Marshall to take away many of the doubles he saw last year.
if that reasoning is followed down the line, we'll see a reasonable facsimile of Kyle Wilson covering him. Plus, Kerley isn't easy to cover, and I see a ton of check downs going his way If plays do break down.
Whats going on in Cleveland and their fans in the NBA finals, is what it's going to be like when the Famous Jets win their 2nd Super Bowl!! Coming sooner than you think.
good post... and agree on being prudent and not just reacting. Its a value proposition pure and simple this regime will gauge his value and make an offer.. it may or may not be what they want, we'll see. If the reject it then tag him thru 17 and let him walk.
forgot the original Q... I believe we are on the right path and after the last three years I am looking forward to seeing the team compete.
His value in the future is higher than his value now...simple answer. the cap is going up again next year, meaning all salaries go up with it. If, and thats a big if, you can get him now for a total of 40, next year, it will be 50...why not sign him now for $40 instead of tagging him and paying 50...both worse on our salary cap long term.
When it comes to money, its always better to do sooner than later...because 40 now is worth less in the future...which is why he wont take 40 in the future...
When it comes to money, its always better to do sooner than later...because 40 now is worth less in the future...which is why he wont take 40 in the future...
we're going to have a good season..im not worried about that.
These also arent his players, so he isn't worried about them. I also understand that. he's building on this rookie class and his free agents, so I understand Mo as an after thought. I just like the guy and player and dont look forward to seeing him and/or Richardson on the Bills.
It's 100% gospel truth.
HYATT™ don't lie.
He'll REMIND you whether he was right or wrong, especially when he's right, but he NEVER consciously tells lies.
As for the whole NJJ argument, suck it up because it is ALSO the truth.
The Jets are a NEW JERSEY team, regardless of the outdated names still being used by both so-called NY teams.
The G-Men HYATT™ can at least understand the reluctance to change the team name as there are EIGHT NFL titles & 50-some prior years of NY association attached to it, but the Jets have only 1 & less than half that many years as a NY team.
For a team that's played the majority of it's history out in New Jersey - especially when the precedent is that every OTHER (NYG excepted) major sports team to move also changed it's name with the move - the Jets stubborn clinging to the NY moniker is irrational at best and just plain STUPID, if you call a spade a spade.
Should the Rams STILL be called the LA Rams, or better yet, the Cleveland Rams - because that was where they originated?
Should the Cards still be called the Chicago Cardinals, the Colts the Baltimore Colts, or the Chiefs the Dallas Chiefs?
Don't even get HYATT™ started on the Baltimore Browns issue.
Some things are worth hanging on to, for tradition's sake, but an NFL team's LOCATION name - when it isn't their location any more - isn't one of them.
RE: Cro and his cash.
It's not really a comparable issue.
Idzik pissed off Cro.
Egos got bruised.
There was no possibility of re-signing Cro last year for the money AZ paid him, because he simply wouldn't do it.
AZ got him cheap for 2 reasons, and they knew it was a short term rental when they did it.
A.) He was coming off a bad hip injury season, He had to PROVE himself all over again.
B.) He was late to the market and nobody else was offering any more. He either accepted the low-ball AZ offer or he sat out a year, with the bad consequences for his future that would have engendered.
By playing at near Pro Bowl levels again in 2014, Cro redeemed his status and returned to the ranks of elite CBs, thus insuring his high price tag in the short term at least.
Almost any contender will pay a top CB that kind of loot for a short term rental when making a run for the Super Bowl and the Jets are no exception.
Frankly, HYATT™ is a little bit surprised he came as cheaply as he did.
RE: Mo and his money.
There is no real market difference between 3-4 and 4-3 DEs.
Richard Seymour got top dollar, PIT always paid their elite DEs top dollar, as did DAL, and pretty much any 3-4 team with an elite 3-4 DE.
This is reflected in the fact that the Franchise Tag number is for ALL DEs, not just 3-4 DEs and not separately for 4-3 DEs.
Mo will get what's coming to him.
He's also aware that the new CBA will hurt him if he holds out.
He didn't show up for VOLUNTARY OTAs to make a point that the front office couldn't misconstrue, but he's also a good businessman and knows his best deal with the Jets will come from being a good team leader and earnest player.
He knows they hold the cards for the next year or two and knows he's going to be paid at LEAST $15M next year, so he's going to wait and watch.
It's small potatoes to a $60M player whether he gets it this year or next year - because he KNOWS he will eventually get it and when only adds to his bankroll.
The later - the more he gets paid.
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Ignore for our third person Packers fan (TM) until he drops his geographic disparaging of the NEW YORK JETS
Why? Because, unlike TM, I am a lifetime fan of the NEW YORK JETS and will always root for the NEW YORK JETS.
Ignore for our third person Packers fan (TM) until he drops his geographic disparaging of the NEW YORK JETS
Why? Because, unlike TM, I am a lifetime fan of the NEW YORK JETS and will always root for the NEW YORK JETS.
Anyone interested in seeing the Orchard Park Bills this year?
How about the Arlington Cowboys?
Maybe a visit to Maryland to see the Hyattsville Redskins?
Super Bowl is being played at the home of the Santa Clara 49ers.
Jets and Giants are not exactly unique in playing in the metropolitan area of the major city they are named for and keeping the name of the City.
How about the Arlington Cowboys?
Maybe a visit to Maryland to see the Hyattsville Redskins?
Super Bowl is being played at the home of the Santa Clara 49ers.
Jets and Giants are not exactly unique in playing in the metropolitan area of the major city they are named for and keeping the name of the City.
Plus 1, Thank you.
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I was born and raised in Manhattan and lived in Staten Island til my early 20's, then relocated to NJ. I always considered myself a New Yorker and always will, even after moving to Florida 7 years ago (a godforsaken place).
If the Jets and Giants want to keep New York as the reference point of their continuing legacy, I have no problem with that. They are part of the greater NY area, which includes NJ, NY and Connecticut, in my opinion. If they were to move to a different metro area, God forbid, then a name change would make sense.
Until then, I'm proud to be a fan of the New York Jets, regardless of their NY Metro zip code.
(and I'm also happy when the NY Giants kick some enemy butt.)
If the Jets and Giants want to keep New York as the reference point of their continuing legacy, I have no problem with that. They are part of the greater NY area, which includes NJ, NY and Connecticut, in my opinion. If they were to move to a different metro area, God forbid, then a name change would make sense.
Until then, I'm proud to be a fan of the New York Jets, regardless of their NY Metro zip code.
(and I'm also happy when the NY Giants kick some enemy butt.)
At least every single one of those teams stayed in the same STATE, at least.
HYATT™ can see the point being made for retention of the New York CITY part, but neither NY team uses New York CITY in their name.
New York City Jets or NYC Jets, yes, HYATT™ can 100% see that name being used for a team located across the river from New York CITY but in New Jersey.
Ditto the NYC Giants, (which, to point out, are often referred to as the New York FOOTBALL Giants, incidentally, because there used to be a baseball team with the same name.)
But NEITHER team bears the CITY name in theirs - ergo, a STATE of location name change IS in order, exactly the way AZ went from the Chicago Cardinals, to the St. Louis Cardinals, to the Phoenix Cardinals, to the Arizona Cardinals when they didn't even change cities, just moved from Sun Devil Stadium to the Toaster.
HYATT™;39750 said:
Do you really think the Jets (and Giants) would have moved to East Rutherford if it were not part of the NY metropolitan area. NYC is often referred to simply as New York.
They are appropriately named the NY Jets and NY Giants.
HYATT™ doesn't HAVE a New York bias, because he doesn't live or belong to it and never has.
Nothing will ever change that, anymore than HYATT™ expecting a pack of urban rats to appreciate the vast outdoors of Northern Wisconsin - where he was raised and it can be 7 MILES between roads.
HYATT™ will cut a deal with y'all.
You stop nagging HYATT™ about using NJJ and he'll stop trying to convince y'all it is the PROPER name for a team that has played the majority of it's life in East Rutherford, New Jersey, is governed by New Jersey state laws, and is completely removed from ANY governmental influence or input by the state and city of New York.
Do we have a deal?
Nothing will ever change that, anymore than HYATT™ expecting a pack of urban rats to appreciate the vast outdoors of Northern Wisconsin - where he was raised and it can be 7 MILES between roads.
HYATT™ will cut a deal with y'all.
You stop nagging HYATT™ about using NJJ and he'll stop trying to convince y'all it is the PROPER name for a team that has played the majority of it's life in East Rutherford, New Jersey, is governed by New Jersey state laws, and is completely removed from ANY governmental influence or input by the state and city of New York.
Do we have a deal?
Works for me, Hyatt.
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No prob
We are, after all
NEW YORK JETS FANS UNITED
We are, after all
NEW YORK JETS FANS UNITED