Fitz named Starter

[mykcuz]

I think Bowles is being honest,and doesn't think petty is ready, and he has some knowledgeable coaches in the building. He sees petty 6 days a week playing football, we saw him for a couple hours of uninspiring play against a team worse than us.

We can't fire everyone every other year.

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[jetgreen13]

I think Bowles is being honest,and doesn't think petty is ready, and he has some knowledgeable coaches in the building. He sees petty 6 days a week playing football, we saw him for a couple hours of uninspiring play against a team worse than us.

We can't fire everyone every other year.

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no more than we can hope against hope we have finally hired the right people..

& i'll say again.. i think bowles is equal parts incompetent/self serving.....

if petty can actually play, i don't think bowles thinks that helps save his job at this point..

 

[mykcuz]

no more than we can hope against hope we have finally hired the right people..

& i'll say again.. i think bowles is equal parts incompetent/self serving.....

if petty can actually play, i don't think bowles thinks that helps save his job at this point..

If Bowles thought petty could come in and beat the pats, or even be competitive, he'd be playing.

If Fitz plays this game, and stinks again, and petty is named the starter on Monday and goes undefeated the rest of the year, will anyone remember who played this game? By opening day most fans won't even remember this conversation.

Pettys time is coming. We hired a good defensive coordinator and we didn't have a qb when he was hired. You're going to fire him after 1.5 seasons?

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[mykcuz]

If we fire Bowles, do you guys really think any coach worth shit is going to take this job?

Any candidate is going to look at us, see we fired the gm and coach, hired new ones, had no depth, geno and Fitz at qb, and the fans demanded the coach be fired after 25 games. You think any good coach is gonna say yay I want to be a part of that?

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[McJet]

I think Bowles is being honest,and doesn't think petty is ready, and he has some knowledgeable coaches in the building. He sees petty 6 days a week playing football, we saw him for a couple hours of uninspiring play against a team worse than us.

We can't fire everyone every other year.

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So with that thought process, that's saying Bryce Petty in his second ever game is going to be worse than the sage veteran from Harvard who happens to own all of the negative QB stats in the league this year.
The guys in the locker room have to say,shit Petty can't do any worse can he? I mean Petty goes out and throws 5 interceptions, he still won't beat a Fitzpatrick stat. Petty throws to many into in the redzone,Oops Sorry he must've been watching too many game tapes of Ryan. Petty locks onto his first read and throws it no matter how covered the WR is, Nope that is still the Veteran Fitzpatrick.
In actuality, IS IT a good idea to have Ryan around to mentor the young QB's?

 

[NewMFS62]

Hey McJet, why an F-104 in your avatar?
Did you fly one?

Later

 

[butterscotch]

Look for entertainment as a fan I want that race car driver but as a coach I want Fitz for this week..after this week it is all Petty...if we lose LOL

 

[jets82]

I hate it when people say Bowles will lose the locker room if he plays Petty. Well guess what morons?? He lost the locker room when he lost the 7th game. You cut the people that want to breach their contract by not performing on the field. Bye Mo/Revis/Sheldon and the other 90% of the trash on this team!! Fitz is the most average QB the league has ever seen. He has done very well to be average because he has no arm talent. He was a guy people fell in love with and I'm included in that because I wanted to ride the wave. Well he became Fitz again vs Buffalo last year. He held out while the whole league laughed at the Jets while they bid against themselves. Not one team was interested in Fitz. There is absolutely no reason to play Fitz and anyone who thinks there is might just be as stupid as Bowles. This is one of the many reasons I'm leaning toward not supporting the Jets going forward. Its not worth it. The whole organization should be contracted like in baseball. I'm sorry, but thats how I'm starting to feel. There might not be one person in the whole organization that is worth a shit. There is no end of the rainbow for the team. I'm only watching to see this blow up in their face!! Hopefully this week will be more embarrassing than the butt fumble.

I'm with you on this 1000% and I couldn't put it any better myself. Well said my friend!!!

 

[McJet]

Hey McJet, why an F-104 in your avatar?
Did you fly one?

Later

Sorry NewMFS62, nothing that glamorous.
I'm very inept at this computer stuff so when I typed in Jets and an Irish flag that was one of the pictures that popped up.
I'd like to say to all of the personnel that are pilots, Captain the ships, ride, walk or crawl for all of our military branches, a very big THANK YOU for doing what you do and being who you are. YOU are the reason this is the greatest country on earth. God Bless You and your family's.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

I think Bowles is being honest,and doesn't think petty is ready, and he has some knowledgeable coaches in the building. He sees petty 6 days a week playing football, we saw him for a couple hours of uninspiring play against a team worse than us.

We can't fire everyone every other year.

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Myckuz, we appear to be in the minority, but I agree with everything you're saying.

Sometimes firing everyone doesn't solve the problem. I'm reading all kinds of amazing things around here. Fire the QB, fire the coach, fire the GM, fire the owner. When the team has a down year, the fans go nuts.

That's not to excuse the job Bowles has done, nor the rest of his coaching staff. This is going to be a big off season of change. Some key veterans are going to have to go. Clady, Revis, Fitz, maybe even Brandon Marshall. But when the team struggles, it's common for Jets fans to fly off the handle about what needs to be done.

Fan since 1982. Been there, heard that.

 

[jetgreen13]

Myckuz, we appear to be in the minority, but I agree with everything you're saying.

Sometimes firing everyone doesn't solve the problem. I'm reading all kinds of amazing things around here. Fire the QB, fire the coach, fire the GM, fire the owner. When the team has a down year, the fans go nuts.

That's not to excuse the job Bowles has done, nor the rest of his coaching staff. This is going to be a big off season of change. Some key veterans are going to have to go. Clady, Revis, Fitz, maybe even Brandon Marshall. But when the team struggles, it's common for Jets fans to fly off the handle about what needs to be done.

Fan since 1982. Been there, heard that.

...so you acknowledge sweeping changes will come but are clowning jet fans (in the same post no less) that are calling for these very changes??

OK.....

 

[mykcuz]

Myckuz, we appear to be in the minority, but I agree with everything you're saying.

Sometimes firing everyone doesn't solve the problem. I'm reading all kinds of amazing things around here. Fire the QB, fire the coach, fire the GM, fire the owner. When the team has a down year, the fans go nuts.

That's not to excuse the job Bowles has done, nor the rest of his coaching staff. This is going to be a big off season of change. Some key veterans are going to have to go. Clady, Revis, Fitz, maybe even Brandon Marshall. But when the team struggles, it's common for Jets fans to fly off the handle about what needs to be done.

Fan since 1982. Been there, heard that.

I'm a carpenter, and sometimes problems are so bad that it is worth it to syrup everything down and start over. But we did that 2 years ago and we hired people with the right mentality to take over. We are in a 4-5 year rebuild, year 2 isn't going to be glamorous.

I also run into situations where something isn't working and might have multiple problems. This is common in cars too, and often you Fix the problems you definitely know to be wrong first, and the problem is solved. We know we need a qb, and some other positions. We may find that wr don't need to burn the house down, just finding a qb and a cb, etc, may show that Bowles can coach this team.

Show me 1 coach who was without errors in his first job. I'm not on Bowles side, I just haven't seen anything to make me condemn him. I'm taking stock and remembering what's happening, but I'm also patient and know remolding this team is a big multi year project.

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[BlindsideD'Brick]

...so you acknowledge sweeping changes will come but are clowning jet fans (in the same post no less) that are calling for these very changes??

OK.....

Actually, what I said was that Bowles hasn't had a good second season, and he and his staff deserve criticism. There is too much talent on this roster to be 3-7. And his in-game decision making has left a lot to be desired. I honestly don't know if he will get better. I also suggested that some high profile veterans making a lot of money and not earning it should probably be let go.

You can call it "clowning" Jets fans for their calls for widespread firings (or giving up power) of everyone from the owner on down, but I'm just addressing the predictable trend of fans who think that this franchise will actually turn a corner by changing the GM and coaches every few years. It's a constant reset button in which this team must start over with new coaches and players far too often. Too many people in this fanbase have no patience in letting things take the necessary time to develop. Last year was a tease. Maccagnan was never going to turn this team into a strong contender overnight. But as usual, fans want everyone thrown out of the building.

Changes will happen. But calls for Maccagnan to be fired, and Woody to sell the team are way off the mark, IMO.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

I'm a carpenter, and sometimes problems are so bad that it is worth it to syrup everything down and start over. But we did that 2 years ago and we hired people with the right mentality to take over. We are in a 4-5 year rebuild, year 2 isn't going to be glamorous.

I also run into situations where something isn't working and might have multiple problems. This is common in cars too, and often you Fix the problems you definitely know to be wrong first, and the problem is solved. We know we need a qb, and some other positions. We may find that wr don't need to burn the house down, just finding a qb and a cb, etc, may show that Bowles can coach this team.

Show me 1 coach who was without errors in his first job. I'm not on Bowles side, I just haven't seen anything to make me condemn him. I'm taking stock and remembering what's happening, but I'm also patient and know remolding this team is a big multi year project.

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This.

 

[jetgreen13]

Actually, what I said was that Bowles hasn't had a good second season, and he and his staff deserve criticism. There is too much talent on this roster to be 3-7. And his in-game decision making has left a lot to be desired. I honestly don't know if he will get better. I also suggested that some high profile veterans making a lot of money and not earning it should probably be let go.

You can call it "clowning" Jets fans for their calls for widespread firings (or giving up power) of everyone from the owner on down, but I'm just addressing the predictable trend of fans who think that this franchise will actually turn a corner by changing the GM and coaches every few years. It's a constant reset button in which this team must start over with new coaches and players far too often. Too many people in this fanbase have no patience in letting things take the necessary time to develop. Last year was a tease. Maccagnan was never going to turn this team into a strong contender overnight. But as usual, fans want everyone thrown out of the building.

Changes will happen. But calls for Maccagnan to be fired, and Woody to sell the team are way off the mark, IMO.

it's a complete exaggeration that the jets are consistently firing would be quality HC's/GM's & their staffs..

if i'm the one exaggerating, please rattle off the laundry list.. my count starts & ends with pete carroll..

i believe bowles has shown himself to be incompetent, listless as well as extremely self serving..

i could go into great detail (again) but i would prefer to just copy & paste..

 

[Mainejet]

It's decisions like these that get a HC fired. My hope is that this decision is the straw that broke the camels back and causes Woody to take action against the HC after the season.

This season is over and that is so obvious, but apparently Todd Bowles is too fucking dumb to see that.

This season NEEDS to be about the future. Not playing Petty is a clear vote for a PROVEN flawed formula for losing. Petty? Hack? Who cares which one it is, just put one of them in. You are NOT going to know anything about the future of this team by letting these kids sit on the bench, take up cap space, and never play a down.

Moreover, it's clear Todd Bowles does not believe in Petty at all. That is a clear vote against Mac as well. He may be all about trying to find a QB, but he's come up with strikeouts virtually every single time.

I've said this many times and I think it bears repeating. This team is not going anywhere with Todd Bowles as their HC. This team has a single win in almost two seasons now against winning teams. He's WAY too conservative for this team to ever survive his chronically frequent bad decisions.

He needs to go and I am beginning to think that if Mac must go on national television and actually have the gall to tell Jets fans about how wonderful Todd Bowles is then Mac should be shit canned also.

Now, I know everyone will contend what else was he going to say? But that's also wrong. Mac didn't have to weigh in either way. He could have kept his mouth shut and let things go their course..........

 

[Mainejet]

it's a complete exaggeration that the jets are consistently firing would be quality HC's/GM's & their staffs..

if i'm the one exaggerating, please rattle off the laundry list.. my count starts & ends with pete carroll..

i believe bowles has shown himself to be incompetent, listless as well as extremely self serving..

i could go into great detail (again) but i would prefer to just copy & paste..

I'm with you pal. It's important to know and keep a finger on the pulse of the team. Well, the fact is this team is falling flat on it's face before it's even gotten started in the right direction. Todd Bowles does not care about the future apparently. He cares about winning this season when it's obvious this team is far too flawed for that.

My hope is that he's now sealing his fate....

 

[jetgreen13]

I'm with you pal. It's important to know and keep a finger on the pulse of the team. Well, the fact is this team is falling flat on it's face before it's even gotten started in the right direction. Todd Bowles does not care about the future apparently. He cares about winning this season when it's obvious this team is far too flawed for that.

My hope is that he's now sealing his fate....

he almost has to be, right??

that said, it would be damn near criminal to allow bowles to refuse to start petty in an ass backward attempt to save his own ass..

LOLz jeezbus, i'm so sick of this dope power tripping just because he still has the authority to do so.....

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

it's a complete exaggeration that the jets are consistently firing would be quality HC's/GM's & their staffs..

if i'm the one exaggerating, please rattle off the laundry list.. my count starts & ends with pete carroll..

i believe bowles has shown himself to be incompetent, listless as well as extremely self serving..

i could go into great detail (again) but i would prefer to just copy & paste..

Well, I guess until this team finds it saviour at QB, we'd better get used to the 3-5 year GM/HC plan, then. Until this team finds it's Dak Prescott or someone near that potential, the coaches and GM's will continue to be the fall guys for this team's mediocrity.

 

[jetgreen13]

Well, I guess until this team finds it saviour at QB, we'd better get used to the 3-5 year GM/HC plan, then. Until this team finds it's Dak Prescott or someone near that potential, the coaches and GM's will continue to be the fall guys for this team's mediocrity.

if one lives through something, safe bet one is "used to" it.. 20+ year fans of this franchise certainly qualify..

ironically, the teams that don't have this kind of turnover with their GM's/HC's find QB's that end up being "the guy" for 10+ years..

go figure..