Fitzpatrick Thread -- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jets agree to 1-year, $12M deal

[jetgreen13]

Make room for a extra $5 to get to $15. That would be the dumbest move the Jets have made in a long time.

i would be stunned after mac has played his hand beautifully he ends up giving fitzpatrick 15 million next season..

plus i just read in the tweet section of JFU, fitzpatrick is now saying he plans on playing next season & hopes it with the jets..

it will be.....

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I would love to see $15M for two years. $10M year one.


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[mykcuz]

I would love to see $15M for two years. $10M year one.


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Well that's silly, why would they cut his pay in half, if he's good enough to play 2 years?

I really think a3 year 36 mill deal makes the most sense. Guarantee 1.5 years, or half of first 2 years. If we need him year 3, he's cheap.

This assumes 12 per year, take it down to 9 per and that's even better.

But logically, if you want him to return for a 2nd year, you don't cut his pay in half.

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

Well that's silly, why would they cut his pay in half, if he's good enough to play 2 years?

I really think a3 year 36 mill deal makes the most sense. Guarantee 1.5 years, or half of first 2 years. If we need him year 3, he's cheap.

This assumes 12 per year, take it down to 9 per and that's even better.

But logically, if you want him to return for a 2nd year, you don't cut his pay in half.

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Just don't guarantee him to be the starter. Or better yet just offer him one year prove it deals.

 

[mykcuz]

Just don't guarantee him to be the starter. Or better yet just offer him one year prove it deals.

Well a one year deal means the team is 90% confident a young guy will be ready to start next year. Good knows if we need Fitz to hang out a little longer, we don't want this holdout every year.

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

Well a one year deal means the team is 90% confident a young guy will be ready to start next year. Good knows if we need Fitz to hang out a little longer, we don't want this holdout every year.

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Maybe they feel that way. None of us really know.

 

[Jet Fan RI]

That's a number I'm good with. I know nobody cares what I think, but we just don't have the money to overspend on a guy like Fitz.

Hope it's closer to 6.

 

[usapaw]

I don't understand wasting our time with Fitz? A total ticker selling desperation move to prove we are an average team.
Without Fitz we are a 7 -13 win team. With Fitz we a a 7-8 win team. Step up and see what we have in the kids.

 

[SackExchange]

I don't understand wasting our time with Fitz? A total ticker selling desperation move to prove we are an average team.
Without Fitz we are a 7 -13 win team. With Fitz we a a 7-8 win team. Step up and see what we have in the kids.

So Fitz's ceiling with the 2016 Jets is 8 wins, but another QB on the roster has a 13-win ceiling, and no lower a floor?

 

[jetgreen13]

So Fitz's ceiling with the 2016 Jets is 8 wins, but another QB on the roster has a 13-win ceiling, and no lower a floor?

the lack of respect fitzpatrick gets on jets boards is mind blowing to me.. especially when it's topped off with "smith would have put the same or better numbers fitzpatrick did" last season..

yeah, of course smith would have.....

 

[SackExchange]

the lack of respect fitzpatrick gets on jets boards is mind blowing to me.. especially when it's topped off with "smith would have put the same or better numbers fitzpatrick did" last season..

yeah, of course smith would have.....

It's as if people are so locked in their opinion, they ignore all evidence. They refuse to budge on not liking a guy because they didn't like him before he became a Jet. Forget the 30 TD passes. He's a bum.

 

[OCCH]

the lack of respect fitzpatrick gets on jets boards is mind blowing to me.. especially when it's topped off with "smith would have put the same or better numbers fitzpatrick did" last season..

yeah, of course smith would have.....

It's as if people are so locked in their opinion, they ignore all evidence. They refuse to budge on not liking a guy because they didn't like him before he became a Jet. Forget the 30 TD passes. He's a bum.

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me there's a BIG difference between saying Fitz is "good" vs. "he's better than anything else we have". Compared to the rest of the league the guy is the definition of "middle of the road":

NFL RANKINGS:
Completion % -- 29th
Passing Yards -- 15th
TDs -- 10th
INTs -- 28th
QBR -- 12th

If you think Fitz is the missing piece, that this team is good enough to go the distance with competent QB play, then of course you pay the guy what he wants and don't look back. But if you think he simply increases the odds of a "successful season" (as I do) then you hedge your bets by making sure he only comes back under team-friendly terms (which I PRAY is Macc's mindset) . . .

 

[jetgreen13]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me there's a BIG difference between saying Fitz is "good" vs. "he's better than anything else we have". Compared to the rest of the league the guy is the definition of "middle of the road":

NFL RANKINGS:
Completion % -- 29th
Passing Yards -- 15th
TDs -- 10th
INTs -- 28th
QBR -- 12th

If you think Fitz is the missing piece, that this team is good enough to go the distance with competent QB play, then of course you pay the guy what he wants and don't look back. But if you think he simply increases the odds of a "successful season" (as I do) then you hedge your bets by making sure he only comes back under team-friendly terms (which I PRAY is Macc's mindset) . . .

fitzpatrick led the jets to one of (if not the best) offensive seasons in franchise history..

if that & 31-15 is "middle of the road" re-sign me up for that with a deal that makes sense, of course..

 

[SackExchange]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me there's a BIG difference between saying Fitz is "good" vs. "he's better than anything else we have". Compared to the rest of the league the guy is the definition of "middle of the road":

NFL RANKINGS:
Completion % -- 29th
Passing Yards -- 15th
TDs -- 10th
INTs -- 28th
QBR -- 12th

If you think Fitz is the missing piece, that this team is good enough to go the distance with competent QB play, then of course you pay the guy what he wants and don't look back. But if you think he simply increases the odds of a "successful season" (as I do) then you hedge your bets by making sure he only comes back under team-friendly terms (which I PRAY is Macc's mindset) . . .

I agree that he's a middle-of-the-road starter. But that is a far cry better than anything the Jets have had since Chad was healthy.

Truth is, I am not convinced the Jets are a playoff team with or without him. He's not the missing piece to a Super Bowl run, especially with the Jets' schedule. But he is better than any other QB on the roster, and he gives the Jets an average offense, which combined with a good defense makes for a better than average team.

If the Jets front office took the opinion that the schedule this year is tough, and they will not be legit contenders with or without Fitz, I would be fine if they decided to use either Petty or Hack and let one of them suffer through their growing pains now. But if the front office wants to compete on any level this year, it will have to be with Fitz. Plus, there is nobody out there who could teach Petty and Hack about Gailey's offense better than Fitz.

 

[SackExchange]

The problem I have with the anti-Fitz contingent is that they were against bringing him in last year because he had only put together one good season (an arguable point), and had never led a team to a winning record.

Well, last year, he leads the team to a winning record, and has a good season, and all you hear is that last year was his only good season, and any success he had was because of the players around him.

It's as if the anti-Fitz crowd are shaping the facts to try to fit their narrative, and then when the facts no longer fit their narrative, they change the facts.

 

[OCCH]

fitzpatrick led the jets to one of (if not the best) offensive seasons in franchise history..

if that & 31-15 is "middle of the road" re-sign me up for that with a deal that makes sense, of course..

I'm sorry, I'll just never get this logic.

I show stats that suggest/prove Fitz had a "decent" year, but because that shines in the annals of Jets history it suddenly becomes more impressive? And if it is more impressive, then doesn't that change the definition of "a deal that makes sense"? How are we (or anyone else in the league) not jumping at the chance to secure a guy with record-setting potential?

I know it sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not -- I just don't get it. Fitz is what he is, and I don't see the benefit of elevating him by comparing him to the garbage we've grown accustomed to.

I'll trust whatever Macc decides (for now), but I'll need some convincing if we end up outbidding ourselves for the guy's services . . .

 

[Jet Fan RI]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me there's a BIG difference between saying Fitz is "good" vs. "he's better than anything else we have". Compared to the rest of the league the guy is the definition of "middle of the road":

NFL RANKINGS:
Completion % -- 29th
Passing Yards -- 15th
TDs -- 10th
INTs -- 28th
QBR -- 12th

If you think Fitz is the missing piece, that this team is good enough to go the distance with competent QB play, then of course you pay the guy what he wants and don't look back. But if you think he simply increases the odds of a "successful season" (as I do) then you hedge your bets by making sure he only comes back under team-friendly terms (which I PRAY is Macc's mindset) . . .

No. What I think is that Fitzpatrick may just be the best QB currently available to the Jets. Of course, that might also be said of one of the other 3 QB's on the team. So bring in Fitz, and let the competition begin!!

 

[mykcuz]

I'm sorry, I'll just never get this logic.

I show stats that suggest/prove Fitz had a "decent" year, but because that shines in the annals of Jets history it suddenly becomes more impressive? And if it is more impressive, then doesn't that change the definition of "a deal that makes sense"? How are we (or anyone else in the league) not jumping at the chance to secure a guy with record-setting potential?

I know it sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not -- I just don't get it. Fitz is what he is, and I don't see the benefit of elevating him by comparing him to the garbage we've grown accustomed to.

I'll trust whatever Macc decides (for now), but I'll need some convincing if we end up outbidding ourselves for the guy's services . . .

The Jets aren't signing complimentary role playing, pro bowl 30 somethings to see what petty has.

The team has shown us they are getting younger and faster in the draft, while preparing to win now. Nfl teams don't throw a season away ever, until they are eliminated.

In the nfl,a shitty team like the giants, can beat an undefeated historic team with the best qb of all time. Giants v Patriots. One unit got the giants there, the d line.

This team has spoken with their actions, they are preparing for a successful year, and ate going for it. Every member of this team has been clear, Fitz is the guy. There is no competition, they declared the offense belongs to a guy not even under contract. That's bold.

They work out the dollars if the Jets like him at 9 and pay 11 or 12,who gives a shit.

The Jets could lock up mo with that 9-12 million, but they have determined that Fitz at qb over geno is worth not signing mo long term. That's clear!

I feel so much more confident with Mac and his decisions to date, than I ever did with idzik. And I gave idzik a long leash.

Our vets want to win, they want a super bowl. We are lucky that we have assembled a team of guys who are hungry for a super bowl, and not content with being millionaires. And those players (Marshall, Decker, Mangold, Forte, colon, etc) want Fitz.

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[jetgreen13]

I'm sorry, I'll just
never get this logic.

I show stats that suggest/prove Fitz had a "decent" year, but because that shines in the annals of Jets history it suddenly becomes more impressive?

fair enough but that's not my point.. i said fitzpatrick "led" the jets to one of their best ofensive seasons ever..

there was absolutely nothing "middle of the road" with what fitzpatrick did with marshall & decker..

 

[OCCH]

fair enough but that's not my point.. i said fitzpatrick "led" the jets to one of their best ofensive seasons ever..

there was absolutely nothing "middle of the road" with what fitzpatrick did with marshall & decker..

Then why did half the QBs in the league accomplish more?

Personally I like the guy and hope we sign him. But I won't be one who complains if we let him go "over a couple mill". I hope Macc has set a price point and doesn't budge from it.

I'll support whatever decision is made and pray it's the right one because if we have an incompetent FO everything else is moot . . .