Fitzpatrick Thread -- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jets agree to 1-year, $12M deal

[SackExchange]

I just watched the Pats replay where we beat them in OT last year to put us in the "win and in" situation vs Buffalo. I would be willing to pay Fitz if he had won the Buffalo game. I just can't get past the fact that he has never directed a team to the playoffs. He seems to crumble when the lights are brightest. I also can't get past the last time he signed a big contract. I have a feeling the Jets FO feel the same way. I don't care what other QB's are making. I don't care that he set a record for most TD's with a franchise that has only had one "maybe" great QB. And now he looks fat at golf tournaments. Has't been practicing with his WR's or Forte. This guy is not Brady and can't just jump into training camp a week or more late and flip a switch. It really sucks that Ryan FREAKIN' Fitzpatrick is our best option.

I can't buy into this argument about him shrinking in big spots. Yes, Buffalo. But before that, there were five straight must-win games, and he went 5-0. Had he lost any of those, the Buffalo loss would have been irrelevant.

So last year, with it all on the line, he was 5-1.

 

[jetgreen13]

We beat the awful Cowboys, Giants and Redskins who won division by default. We also beat the Browns, Titans and Jags. We beat the Dolphins twice. All of those except the Redskins picked in the top 10. Without trades we beat the worst team, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 8th sorriest teams in the NFL. We lost to TJ Yates. We couldn't beat a below average Buffalo team twice. Indy was a good win at the time, but we all know how that ended up. That leaves the Pats as our only meaningful win. Everything went our way last season. The schedule was easy. The weather was perfect. I'm on board with Fitz for $8M max now which is more than double what he made last season and that is probably double what the NFL thinks he is worth. I just don't think he worth waiting for or big dollars.

a one year deal at 8 million??

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I can't buy into this argument about him shrinking in big spots. Yes, Buffalo. But before that, there were five straight must-win games, and he went 5-0. Had he lost any of those, the Buffalo loss would have been irrelevant.

So last year, with it all on the line, he was 5-1.

Yes but the 4 of the 5 opponents were garbage. We beat one good team all season and it was at the end of that streak. Then the weather changed and Fitz couldn't come through.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

a one year deal at 8 million??

I don't care if we give him $16M, but it should be spread out over two years. One good season doesn't erase the rest of his career IMO.

 

[jetgreen13]

I don't care if we give him $16M, but it should be spread out over two years. One good season doesn't erase the rest of his career IMO.

i hear you.. i don't think last year was fitzpatrick's first "good" NFL season but i won't pick nits..

i would also be careful about not wanting this to get done over a few million of guaranteed money..

lee is going to get signed regardless so really what's the big deal??

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

i hear you.. i don't think last year was fitzpatrick's first "good" NFL season but i won't pick nits..

i would also be careful about not wanting this to get done over a few million of guaranteed money..

lee is going to get signed regardless so really what's the big deal??

Cap space for injuries??


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[jetgreen13]

Cap space for injuries??


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the jets have known for months what their financial situation is..

i trust maccagnan has game plan if/when he re-signs fitzpatrick..

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

the jets have known for months what their financial situation is..

i trust maccagnan has game plan if/when he re-signs fitzpatrick..

I'm sure he has a plan, but that's why I would think you don't overpay for Fitz other than he is not worth it.


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[mykcuz]

I'm sure he has a plan, but that's why I would think you don't overpay for Fitz other than he is not worth it.


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It's a negotiation. Fitz was already offered a12 mill first year with a potential of 15 wroth likely to be reached incentives.
They will haggle over the second year and he will be the qb.

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

Since we are basing his contract on his stats from last year then I expect 124-155 TD's.


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[mykcuz]

Since we are basing his contract on his stats from last year then I expect 124-155 TD's.


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[TebowCan'tThrow]

?

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He is getting a 400-500% raise.


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[ReallyBigfan]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

Here's a list of qb money in 2016.
Fitz making 12 and being happy, basically means he's fine being the lowest paid starter in the nfl,not on a mandatory rookie contract.
Basically luck makes 25 mill, followed by 10 guys between 20-22
Then everyone else is mid to high teens. Andy Dalton would be one up from Fitz and rg3 would be the next qb after Fitz, at 7.5 mill. Followed by rookie deals and backups.

So the Jets are basically paying him like Dalton this year and then like Matt moore for 2 years. That is not in line with his talent.

Fitz felt like the Jets were his home and he was the leader, and the Jets have basically said we don't want you, but have no other option this year, with this offer.

Fitz likes 12, which we also offered, we need a3 year deal to spread out his pay as a bonus. Fitz countered with a1 year 12 mill deal, but we said no because of managing the cap number this year. Fitz is comfortable with a prove it deal, which would mean he will make 18 next year after putting 2 years together.

I think a3 year 36 mill is the magic number, just as I have always said here. I would guarantee 18 over the first 2 years. Even if hack starts next year, he's on rookie money, so we'd have less than 15 mill at the entire qb position.

I think Fitz can play at last year's level for 2-3 years as the kids grow up.

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Okay, you do understand that the Jets' offer is already like $7M better for this season than the next best offer Fitz has received? Do you seriously believe that it would be good business for them to bid against themselves and offer him even more money? That would be crazy imho. Fitz has to either take it or leave it, and I think he's nuts if he leaves it, this is a perfect situation for him; a system he has thrived in, great WRs with whom he already has chemistry, and a team that wants him and is willing to pay him a guaranteed $12M for this season - which is how many times more than he made last season? Also remember that Fitz had two major lucky breaks last year - a very easy schedule and an unusually mild winter in the NE. Check out how he did in the coldest games last year, which includes the season finale. He has always been bad in extremely cold weather and last year was no exception.

 

[mykcuz]

Okay, you do understand that the Jets' offer is already like $7M better for this season than the next best offer Fitz has received? Do you seriously believe that it would be good business for them to bid against themselves and offer him even more money? That would be crazy imho. Fitz has to either take it or leave it, and I think he's nuts if he leaves it, this is a perfect situation for him; a system he has thrived in, great WRs with whom he already has chemistry, and a team that wants him and is willing to pay him a guaranteed $12M for this season - which is how many times more than he made last season? Also remember that Fitz had two major lucky breaks last year - a very easy schedule and an unusually mild winter in the NE. Check out how he did in the coldest games last year, which includes the season finale. He has always been bad in extremely cold weather and last year was no exception.

Sorry, just posting facts.

My opinion is that a3 year 36 mill deal with 18 guaranteed is where the 2 sides settle. We fans know less than 90%of what's happening, that's just my opinion, and my original estimate of 12 mill per year value from the start, is exactly what he was offered year 1.

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[mykcuz]

He is getting a 400-500% raise.


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Ok, so what stats do you predict for luck after his new contract?

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

Ok, so what stats do you predict for luck after his new contract?

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Obviously I was kidding, but Luck has won playoff games. Fitz has zero offers anywhere else and the exact same amount of playoff wins. Like I've said Fitz is not worth what he has been offered and definitely not what he was asking for. Neither is Tannehill, Bradford or many other starting QB's. Many QB's are overpaid, but that doesn't mean the Jets need to do it as well.

 

[Bronx]

What is the next best offer that he would receive? My guess is about 8m per, and that might be pushing it.


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[TebowCan'tThrow]

What is the next best offer that he would receive? My guess is about 8m per, and that might be pushing it.


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Maybe if he was a starter. Think $6M if a back-up.

 

[ReallyBigfan]

Maybe if he was a starter. Think $6M if a back-up.

The only other reported offer was from Denver for $5M. That's it.

 

[soj]

I had enough of the drama and Fitz. As much as I do not want Geno to be the QB, I am ready to roll with him and take whatever he brings. In looking back at last year, IMHO Fitz benefited from his WR and very weak schedule more than he did from his capabilities.